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A sneaky way to hit the £5,000 spend target on the AA credit cards

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I received some good news by email yesterday – I have been approved for the American Airlines credit cards with the fantastic 35,000 miles sign-up bonus!

I was a little worried, to be honest, since my BMI MasterCard has a substantial £20,000 credit limit, and I wasn’t sure that MBNA would want to extend me more credit. 

However, I have been an excellent MBNA customer over the years and presumably come out quite highly on their ‘people we want to keep as customers’ scoring.  This clearly worked in my favour, and they have given me the card with a £10,000 credit limit.

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The one downside of this card is the requirement to spend £5,000 within 180 days to trigger the full 35,000 mile bonus.  Because you get a Visa card as well as an Amex, this is less difficult than it could be, especially if you can pay the Inland Revenue, your council tax etc with it.  It is still not an easy target for many, though.

There is, however, a work-around.

When I wrote about the card, I didn’t mention one additional benefit that comes with it:  you get 0% credit for 12 months (from account opening) on all flights bought from the American Airlines website.

You could, therefore, buy a £5,000 fully refundable flight on the AA website.

We don’t yet know how long it will take MBNA to send over the bonus miles.  However, because of the 12 months interest free credit, it doesn’t matter.  Wait as long as it takes, then cancel the flight and extinguish your card liability.

Note that, whilst the purchase will accumulate no interest, you still have to make the minimum 3% repayment each month.  MBNA will want £15 off you, which will of course in turn reduce your outstanding balance.

When you trigger the refund, MBNA will not reclaim the base miles from your AA account.  They will, however, send your internal MBNA account into negative territory, and you will not any further AA miles until you have earned enough to wipe out the deficit.  This deficit would be 7,500 miles if you used the Amex card or 3,750 miles if you spend the £5,000 on the Visa card.

To avoid MBNA putting a black mark against your name for future applications, I would strongly recommend wiping out this negative balance by putting £5,000 of fresh spend through the card before you cancel it.   Closing the account with a negative mileage balance is possible – and MBNA will not come after you for the value of the negative miles balance – but you shouldn’t be surprised if they don’t rush to offer you new cards in the future ….

Without stating the obvious, be sure that you are 110% certain that the flight you are booking on the AA website is fully refundable.  If you are not sure, do NOT go ahead!  Personally, I have a tax bill due at the end of July which I am going to pay early, so I will not be doing this myself.


How to earn American Airlines miles from UK credit cards

How to earn American Airlines miles from UK credit cards (April 2024)

American Airlines no longer has its own UK credit card.

There is, however, still a way to earn American Airlines miles from a UK credit card

The route is via Marriott Bonvoy. Marriott Bonvoy hotel loyalty points convert to American Airlines miles at the rate of 3:1.

The best way to earn Marriott Bonvoy points is via the official Marriott Bonvoy American Express card. It comes with 20,000 points for signing up and 2 points for every £1 you spend. At 2 Bonvoy points per £1, you are earning (at 3:1) 0.66 American Airlines miles per £1 spent on the card.

You can apply here.

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Comments (51)

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  • BritBronco says:

    Could you purchase currency from Amex to meet the minimum spend? I recall some discussion on FT about currency coming through as a purchase

    • Rob says:

      There is plenty of discussion on here about it as well, click on ‘Amex Currency Exchange’ under the Categories menu on the side!

      However, this only works with Amex-issued Amex cards, not MBNA ones sadly.

  • James67 says:

    Just a word of warning here. I think MBNA are now running a tighter ship than previously. In good old days multiple bonuses were possible for reapplying for same card. Last twice (BMi and United) this failed for me. On querying I was informed I previously received bonuses for these cards and would not be getting another. They even could inform me dates bonuses posted from few years ago. I dont know if this is general or just a mark against my account because I have had so many cards. Also my father called to cancel United card after receiving his bonus 15k and was inforned that just applying for the card to get the bonus would impact adversely on any future applications. Given that MBNA are one of two best loyalty card providers in UK I would now advise those taking these cards to follow Raffles advice carefully and avoid too many multiple applications for same card. AA often follows up there 30% buy miles promo with a 50% promo so this might be a chance to get 90k for 60k and put over £1.2k on card in May. This promo can let you buy miles to pay flight in full at substantial discount on published fares in many cases.

  • AM says:

    question, once you earn these 35KMiles, are they transferrable as 35K avios to BAEC?

    • Rome77 says:

      No – AA miles is a different currency to Avios, and you cannot transfer from one to the other. You can however, book Oneworld award seats, including BA, directly using your AA miles.

      • AM says:

        Thanks, and one last question, do they create an AA Advantage account for you once you have been approved for the card, or do you need to create one separately?

        • James67 says:

          They probably create one but avoid any problems by creating your own before applying. It takes only a few minutes and you will get your number straightaway

        • Rob says:

          Easier if you create one first for them to find …. You then know the number and password!

  • AviosNewbie says:

    Raffles, is it possible to load an Oyster card and then claim a cash refund at the underground station by cancelling that Oyster card? £5k is still a huge amount to do this, but if one is short by a few hundred pounds to meet any spends requirement, can this be done?

    • AM says:

      You wouldn’t be able to claim a refund at an underground station. You’d have to fill in a claim form. But I think they would only refund if you already had the same travelcard on it. E.g if you had an annual tralvecard and you bought a monthly one again or something.

      I’ve just spoken to the agency I rent with and they said they accept Visa credit cards. So easy for me to do this.

    • Nick says:

      You can put up to £90 on a card, any refund must be to a card, but they don’t record what card you use, so you could refund it to a debit card. The refund is quite a slow process though…

      The £5 card deposit is refundable as cash though.

      • James says:

        If your balance is less than £5 (paid by card) you can get it refunded in cash – not sure how useful that is

    • Rob says:

      Easier to buy a few hundred pounds of vouchers for your usual supermarket ….

  • vindaloo says:

    I realise it’s different with the Amex-issued cards, but I was surprised recently when my wife’s Amex Plat bonus was snatched back because I returned something I’d bought and the refund took us back below the spending target. We had intended anyway to take the spend back over before we stopped using the card, for the reasons Raffles says (not wanting to annoy Amex unduly) but I was surprised that the points were actually deducted. Perhaps this is normal though, if you haven’t transferred them out. I guess they deduct the points for the purchase if you refund it, so it makes sense that they deduct the bonus also.

    • tangey says:

      What seems to happen with amex issued cards is that your bonus is linked to the transaction that put you over the bonus. If you reverse that transaction, the bonus is lost. So the trick is to ensure that your artificial big spend is not the one that generates the bonus, e.g. if you need to spend 5K, do a big spend of 4.9K and then do another spend of £100 or whatever. As the 4.9K did not trigger the bonus, it will not cause it to be clawed back when you reverse the spend.

  • Rach says:

    Raffles, if I wanted to get an AA flight, can I combine avios and AA miles to pay for it or can I not combine because they’re different currencies?

    • Rob says:

      No, can’t be merged. However, both allow one ways so the easiest thing to do is use AA miles to fly somewhere and Avios back.

      • Rach says:

        Thanks. Do AA and BAEC usually charge the same no of airmiles/cash or do they tend to differ between schemes? So could you end up paying more or less with AA for example?

        • Rob says:

          See my review of the AA card (link on Credit Cards Update page). AA is cheaper for Middle East and India and Cape Town if going via Jo’burg. BA cheaper for East Coast of the US.

          AA also has no fuel surcharges on its own planes which makes UK-US flights aggressively cheaper overall (BA does charge a fuel surcharge if you take an AA plane on Avios … and then keeps the money).

  • Nik says:

    Raffles – i just got approved too.

    Quick question – is there a referral bonus or something if i refer a friend. Just looking at ways to maximise this.

    • Rob says:

      Sadly not. If there was, I would have made a fortune in the last 10 days!

      • Nik says:

        Haha..Not to worry.

        I couldn’t find any information anywhere regarding referrals to.

        Thanks for this anyway.

  • Max says:

    I was also accepted for this MBNA card with a credit limit of nearly £11,000. Should I ask them to reduce this surplus limit?

    btw does anyone have a promotional code (for Bonus miles) to join the AAdvantage programme?

    • Rob says:

      No code I know of.

      If you feel £11k is too high and may stop you getting other cards, a quick call will get it reduced.

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