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Part 2: Why ‘no foreign exchange fees’ on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards cards is a game-changer

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I am dedicating all three articles today to the new Lloyds Avios Rewards cards.  Post 1 is an overview, and Post 3 looks at the upgrade voucher.  This post looks at the FX fees benefit.

For me, the most surprising part of this announcement was the fact that there will be no 3% foreign exchange fee added to transactions you make with either of the two Lloyds Avios Rewards cards.

To put this in perspective, never before has a UK rewards card – of any sort – also offered ‘fee free’ foreign exchange transactions.

In general, before today, it was almost always a bad idea to use a mileage card for overseas spend.  This is because all miles and points cards – and indeed almost all other UK credit and debit cards – charged a foreign exchange fee of 2.75% to 2.99%.  Most card issuers hide this fee so you don’t realise you are paying it, because they simply adjust their exchange rate by 2.75%-2.99% rather than breaking the fee out.

There were a number of credit cards, however, which did NOT charge any foreign loading fees.  None of these offered rewards.

With ‘fee free cards’, your transactions are converted at the wholesale exchange rates set by Mastercard or Visa, which to all intents and purposes are the ‘spot’ rates.   Before the Lloyds card launched, the best offerings were from the Halifax, Saga, the Post Office and Capital One, who have cards with no annual fee and no FX fees on purchases.  Nationwide also offers a good card, but only for its FlexAccount holders.  If you live in London, Metro Bank was another option with a ‘no FX charges’ debit card.

Some mileage cards offered a bonus for foreign spending, but still charged the 3% fee.

The American Express Preferred Rewards Gold card gives you double points when you use it abroad.  This means you get 2 Membership Rewards points per £1, which converts to 2 Avios per £1.

The IHG Rewards Club Black Visa card gives you 4 Priority Club points per £1 spent abroad, double the normal rate.

In both of these cases, the ‘bonus’ for foreign spend brought your total reward up to about 2p of value per £1 spent, but this was outweighed by the 2.99p per £1 FX fee.

(Of course, spending abroad also helps you to achieve spending targets.  The IHG Rewards Club card mentioned above also gives you a free night voucher when you spend £10,000 per year.  And of course the BA Premium Plus Amex gives you a 2-4-1 voucher for Avios redemptions valid in any class when you spend £10,000 per year.  It was often worthwhile paying the FX fee on your credit card in order to achieve some of your spending target.  After all, for most of us our holiday is one of the main expenditures of the year.)

The new Lloyds Avios Rewards card lets you have the best of both worlds

Your best option, before yesterday, was either:

Use an Amex Gold or IHG Rewards Club Black card, earn the equivalent of 2% back in benefits but pay the 2.99% fee

or

Use a Halifax, Saga, Post Office etc ‘no fees’ card but get no rewards

The new Lloyds Avios Rewards card lets you earn 1.25 Avios per £1 on the Amex card AND saves you the 2.99% foreign exchange fee.  If you spend more than £800 abroad on your credit card each year, the saving on foreign exchange fees (at 3%) would outweigh the £24 annual fee for the card.

For this reason, I recommend getting a £24 Lloyds Avios Rewards card even if you only use it for overseas spend.  Whether you should bother to put additional spend on the card depends on whether you value the other benefits …. which is what Part 1 and Part 3 of my series of posts today discusses.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (35)

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  • DANIEL says:

    yep…I love my aquacard… a £3333 spend overseas is usually do-able for my £100 rebate, but long gone.. I would be tempted for the spend £7k get an upgrade but I just can’t face the Lloyds idiots again.. Raffles got stung by these guys and their games to avoid the 15k sign up deal.

    • Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

      If you love your aqua card, check out the new Luma cash back card. 4% on supermarkets and petrol. Similarly targeted at a subprime audience, but great rewards if you pay it off.

    • Rob says:

      To be fair, I had a lot of trouble with them but I got all the Avios I was due, unlike a lot of other HFP readers. I have more on this story coming up in a few days, as there is ‘news’.

  • sandgrounder says:

    For completeness, N&P and Cumberland BS offer no-load debit cards as well, but the N&P require some monthly activity and the Cumberland have a geographical restriction.

  • Danksy says:

    I’m sorry but the customer service at lloyds was truly truly awful, I don’t think I’d ever go back :s

  • dannyrado says:

    I can see why people are getting so excited by this card but please remember people, this is lloyds, many of you/us will not get the sign up bonus, and is not simply a case of phoning them up to get it sorted. You will lose the well to live if you have to deal with these arseholes for anything at all.

    That said, the thing that is still unclear for me is overseas cash withdrawals. Firstly are they fee free, and secondly do they count towards targets? My halifax clarity charged me a grand total of 39p for a recent £200 cash withdrawal in aed.

    • John says:

      No, and no. Don’t plan on getting the double avios for 6m without hassle (so it’s a nice surprise if you do), but the voucher should be fine.

      • Rob says:

        When Lloyds offered 25 Avios per £1 for foreign spend (1000% bonus) it posted perfectly fine!

    • Rob says:

      There is no sign-up bonus, that’s why I am relatively keen on it!

    • Elliott says:

      According to the Lloyds website there is “a cash fee of 3% of the amount of each Cash Withdrawal you make in the UK or abroad (minimum £3)” – so these cards aren’t directly comparable to say the Halifax one, for those of us that like to get our foreign cash out fee-free at ATMs!

  • Rob says:

    OK, you found one!

  • Dominic says:

    Just one thought/query… if there is no 3% or whatever on FX transactions…. are we sure that the equivalent profit for Lloyds will not just be in an inflated exchange rate? After all, that’s how the ‘no commission’ currency booths make their money….

    • James67 says:

      Not sure about the amex but the mastercard rate almost certainly be set by mastercard. My info may be wrong but I was once told mastercard and visa rates were about 1% less than interbank rates. Even if this is true still better than the typical fee loaded cards. One other thing to be aware off though is that many m erchants overseas will add 3% to the price if you want to pay by credit or debit card, particularly small merchants and/or in developing countries. In such cases it is then cheaper to withdraw cash with an N&P debit and pay cash unless you value the avios greater than the 3% supplement added by the merchant

    • Frenske says:

      Additionally unfortunately AmEx is not widely accepted. Heck I couldn’t use my UK-Visa in many restaurants in Germany, so you might end up using the MasterCard a lot more abroad than the AmEx.

      • Rob says:

        The Germans have a cultural issue with credit, though! As do the Dutch.

    • Rob says:

      No, they take the MasterCard rate. They still make their commission from the merchant, remember, so they are still making money on the transaction.

  • Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

    Capital One do sometimes do credit limit increases on request. Worth the cost of a call/letter.

  • craig says:

    Raffles – any reason why you’ve tipped the basic card over the premium one for this particular aspect? With only £5,000 spending for upgrade voucher, 1.5 avois per £1 spent and a 2-4-1 voucher at £12,000 it looks a good all-round deal.

    • Rob says:

      My argument was this.

      The main benefit (as I see it) is the ‘no FX fees’, so paying £24 rather than £140 to access that benefit makes sense.

      My personal opinion is that I’d rather put £10,000 on a BAPP Amex and get a 2-4-1 valid for 2 YEARS and usable in premium cabins, versus putting £12,000 through a Lloyds Premier and getting an upgrade voucher (for 2 legs only) and a 2-4-1 only valid for 1 YEAR and only valid in economy.

      You shouldn’t be using Avios for long-haul economy redemptions, except at peak periods. So, at best, you might use your 2-4-1 to go to, say, Spain in economy. That saves you 20,000 Avios, which is a bit ‘meh’ given you’ve paid £140 for the card and put £12,000 through it.

      • John says:

        Economy one-ways not from the UK are also a good deal with avios – recently booked trip around christmas – cheapest return was £1500, but found an outbound for £600 and inbound 30k avios + £100 (mixture of airlines) = 2.66p / avios

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