Is Lloyds Avios Rewards now the best credit card for FX spend?

The Lloyds Avios Rewards credit card was a game-changer when it launched in October.  For the first time, we had a credit which offered NO FOREIGN EXCHANGE FEE – AND gave you Avios points for your spending as well!

Historically, it was almost always a bad idea to use a mileage card for overseas spend.  This is because all other miles and points cards – and indeed almost all other UK credit and debit cards – charge a foreign exchange fee of 2.99%.  Most card issuers hide this fee so you don’t realise you are paying it, because they simply adjust their exchange rate by 2.99% rather than breaking the fee out.

The key question, then, is whether or not the Lloyds Avios Rewards card is worth getting.

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Which cards charge no FX fees?

There are three main FREE credit cards in the UK which do not charge any fees on overseas transactions:

The Post Office Credit Card – no annual fee, 0% on FX purchases, 2.5% (min £3) cash advance fee on FX cash withdrawals, no cash advance fee when you buy foreign currency at the Post Office.  (Representative APR 17.8% variable, the Post Office credit card is provided by Bank of Ireland UK.)

Halifax Clarity – no annual fee, 0% on FX purchases, no ‘cash advance fee’ on FX cash withdrawals  (representative APR 12.95% variable)

Capital One Classic Extra (low credit limits) – no annual fee, 0% on FX purchase, 3% (min £3) cash advance fee on FX cash withdrawals.  This card also pays 0.5% cashback on all purchases!  You are unlikely to get a credit limit above £1,500 however. (representative APR 34.9% variable)

There is also a Saga card if you over 50.  This has a £2 / 2% cash advance fee but does not charge any interest on cash withdrawals if repaid immediately.  Nationwide also has a ‘no fees’ card but this is only available to its current account holders.  The Santander Zero card, which did perform well, is no longer available to new applicants.

There are also three debit cards worth considering, although you will need to open a current account with the relevant bank which is an added complication.  These are Norwich & Peterborough Building Society, Metro Bank (although they are limiting their ‘free FX’ deal to Europe from March) and Cumberland Building Society.

How does the Lloyd Avios Rewards card compare?

The Lloyds Avios Rewards card comes with a £24 annual fee, which makes it worse than the Post Office and Halifax Clarity cards.  There is also a 3% fee on cash withdrawals abroad.

You will, however, receive 1.25 Avios per £1 spent abroad on the Amex card and 0.25 Avios per £1 spent abroad on the MasterCard.  The Post Office and Halifax Clarity cards have no rewards programme.

If you value an Avios at 1p, and assuming your foreign spend is 75% Amex (your hotel will take it) and 25% MasterCard, then the Lloyds Avios Rewards card is a better deal than the Post Office or Halifax cards if you spend over £2,400 abroad each year.

(Why?  Because your £24 annual fee will be offset by the 2,400+ Avios earned back)

Is it ever worth using another credit card abroad and swallowing the 3% fee?

You may not want to go to the trouble of applying for another credit card just for overseas transactions.  You may also want to increase your chance of getting further travel cards by not ‘wasting’ some of your credit score on a ‘no FX fees but no miles’ card.

There are some miles and points cards which are a decent choice for using abroad if you don’t want to go to the trouble of applying for a ‘no FX fees’ card.

The American Express Preferred Rewards Gold card (click for review) gives you double points when you use it abroad.  This means you get 2 Membership Rewards points per £1, which converts to 2 Avios per £1.  This does not fully offset the 2.99% FX fee, but comes close.  Amex’s home page for the card is here.

The free TSB Avios card (click for review) earns double Avios points when used abroad.  This means that Amex card (on the free version) earns 2 Avios per £1 which offsets much of the FX charge.

The IHG Rewards Club Black Visa card (click for review) gives you 4 IHG Rewards Club points per £1 spent abroad.  These can be redeemed for free nights at Crowne Plaza, Holiday Inn, InterContinental etc hotels.  I value these at roughly 0.5p per point, so 2p of value per £1.  This almost offsets the 2.99% FX fee.

Spending abroad also helps you to achieve spending targets. 

The IHG Rewards Club Black card mentioned above also gives you a free night voucher when you spend £10,000 per year.

The Virgin Atlantic cards offer upgrade vouchers when you hit specific spend thresholds.

And of course the BA Premium Plus Amex gives you a 2-4-1 voucher for Avios redemptions valid in any class when you spend £10,000 per year.

You may find it worthwhile paying the FX fee on your credit card in order to achieve some of your spending target.  After all, for most of us our holiday is one of the main expenditures of the year.

Conclusion

Unless you are struggling to hit an annual spending target, you should seriously consider adding the Post Office, Halifax Clarity or Lloyds Avios Rewards cards to your wallet, purely to use for overseas spending.

If you will spend over £2,400 abroad and are happy to pay the £24 fee, the Lloyds Avios Rewards card is a good choice – otherwise go for the free Post Office or Halifax cards.

PS.  It is worth noting that the Post Office card currently offers 0% interest on balance transfers (with a low 1.49% fee, min £2500 transfer) and has a 0% interest offer on all new purchases for the first three months.

(Disclaimer: Head for Points is a journalistic website. Nothing here should be construed as financial advice, and it is your own responsibility to ensure that any product is right for your circumstances. Recommendations are based primarily on the ability to earn miles and points and do not consider interest rates, service levels or any impact on your credit history.)

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Comments

  1. As a Halifax current account holder I have a Clarity Rewards card with gives £5 cash back if you spend £300 in a billing period, i.e. max 1.67% if you spend exactly £300 with no fx or annual fees.

    I believe this is still available to account holders if you enquire in a branch.

    With the demise of the 3% Aqua card that’s about as good as it gets for overseas spend.

    • That’s good to know as classically halifax make it really hard to get the reward account and cc (visit in branch or very long phone calls). Want to ditch my post office cc for the clarity cc as the PO interface is shocking (can’t pay online only via bank and no details online of conversion rate. Online doesn’t even give a payment due date, you have to wait for a statement in paper form!!)

  2. Martin Smith says:

    Metro Bank don’t just have a no FX fees debit card. Their credit card is also fee-free abroad

    • Londonbus says:

      Yes. I have a Metro account just for this re the debit card.

      I like the ability to use ATMs abroad without getting gouged for fees.

      I have a Santander nee Abbey Zero credit card which also has no FX fees. Charges interest on ATM withdrawals but no transaction fees.

  3. Yes I have this card as well – think the limit given was £7k. Note the rates are prices at only two decimal places so I think they probably win a bit back here, and the interest free period is only 42 days I think (bill due 2 weeks after statement date).

    • you are correct about 2 week deadline for payment after the statement date. I always pay my credit cards with direct debit and so don’t really notice the difference.

    • They only show two decimal places on statements but they actually calculate using a much more precise number. If you go in to the transaction detail online it shows the full rate: http://i.imgur.com/lE431yL.png

      I don’t know why people think 0% FX fee cards are always secretly loaded in one way or another – in my experience if the card has a 0% FX fee it uses the exact interbank rate.

  4. andystock says:

    The amex Gold catd has been earning me triple avios on Hotel and travel spend overseas, offsetting the 2.99% fee. Also remember ad its a chargecard you pay no interest.

    • Hi Andystock,

      Do you know if you get triple points if you make a travel purchase in a foreign currency on the internet or if it only works when you are abroad? For example, if I buy a flight from BA in Euro’s would I get triple points?

      Thanks!
      Andy

      • Officially you should only ever get double points.

        In practice I’ve found the various bonuses do stack up sometimes earning 4 or even 5 points per pound but it’s very dependant on the exact retailer. Most of the time it works but I wouldn’t count on it.

        Online purchases in a foreign currency will also earn double points (maybe triple for travel spend) but you wouldn’t want to pay for a BA flight in Euros. You’d already be getting double points due to the travel spend. That extra point per pound isn’t going to be anywhere close to offsetting the 3% fee.

      • andystock says:

        I have just purchased a Prague to LHR flight for a mate on BA.com in cech currency for £39.20 and earned 117 points.

        Another one was an Hoilday Inn Express in Hong Kong which I earned triple points on in addition to all the IHG reward points earned on IHG’s Big Win promotion and the bonus codes raffle s had had on here

    • I get triple points on my gold for UK hotel stays!!

  5. Quick couple of questions. I presume there is no FX transaction fee on both the Amex as well as the Mastercard which form part of the Lloyds Avios package? Also, is there any sign-up bonus?

    • No, no bonus except for double Avios for the first 6 months. I think that is why there has been
      Iimited enthusiasm so far for it.

  6. As an existing Lloyds TSB-branded Avios Duo (previously Air Miles) cardholder, I’m presumably still banned from taking out the new card. (Lloyds said in a snailmail letter that on reissue, my cards would be branded Lloyds, though I wouldn’t be surprised to see TSB-branded cards.)

    Interesting to see £2,400 as the threshold for annual foreign spend to be beneficial. This makes it a contender if I were to be unbanned. I’m in my first year of my AmEx PRG card so the position isn’t urgent. That card is probably not for me in a second year unless it secures my free BA PP AmEx.

    BTW, Nationwide’s £10 a month FlexDirect current account offers no-fee foreign cash on its debit card. Not a free account, of course, but with such significant other benefits I’m thinking of transferring from my FlexAccount to the FlexDirect account.

  7. Santander Zero(no longer available) does the job very nicely for me-infrequent overseas travel, spending my own money.
    If I didn’t have this card I’d go for the Halifax Clarity-preferring to keep home and overseas spend apart. Of course frequent travellers spending their own, or others money, will no doubt see it from a different angle.
    Roger(9:04) could you expand on: ‘unless it (AmEx PRG) secures my free BA PP AmEx’. ? Is this a historic arrangement?

    Thanks

    Worz.

    • Hi, Worzel. Yes, it’s almost certainly a historic arrangement.

      BAPP AmEx cardholders with another qualifying AmEx account (platinum and gold charge cards, SPG credit card and perhaps a couple of others) used to have a zero fee. This was withdrawn a couple of years ago for new applicants.

      Whether it still applies to me I wil find out in a month or two. I had a plat since 1995 and gave it up last year, taking out the gold PRC after a decent interval. This may or may not be a new relationship! I clearly hope not.

  8. I too have the Lloyd’s TSB-branded Avios Duo. Unlike many other members of the forum I had no problem with the sign-up bonus being allocated automatically, although I agree the communication on how to do this was very poor. My question is, if I cancel these cards having triggered the sign-up bonus, will I be able to reapply for the new cards in six months or so in order to have an AMEX that is fee-free abroad, and still gives generous Avios? Thanks!

  9. Roger(10:01),

    Thank you for your prompt reply clarifying things for me-I hope that Amex are not against rekindling an old relationship!!

    Good luck and thanks again,

    Worz.

  10. mike turnbull says:

    Couple of recaps on the Lloyds Avios Card/s
    Double Avios points on the Amex card ONLY (for 6 months)
    0% Interest for 13 months for any purchases made on either card.
    The Avios / Lloyds number is 0845 606 2177….very helpful, the guy I spoke to knew all the ‘Rules’ !
    And don’t try to use it as a cash card…any withdrawals, even if you are in credit, will cost you.

  11. One point that often appears to be overlooked is the different exchange rates used by the different card issuers. When you buy something abroad, the card issuer and not the bank converts your purchase amount into GBP. MasterCard and Visa are generally very close to each other (and both close to the wholesale rate), while Amex has some funny T&Cs on how it calculates FX rates. This may lead to a hidden small FX commission on all Amex cards.

    It is hard to quantify of course whether Amex exchange rates cost you any money and if so how much. You can call Amex to ask for their current exchange rates, and you could then compare that to the MasterCard and Visa rates (which are available online) but I’ve been too lazy so far. It might be something around 0.5%, which is not too bad if you get 1.25 Avios per pound. It is less nice when you already pay a 3% fee however.

    • Amex, Visa and MasterCard all publish their exchange rates online. Their rates for EUR/GBP yesterday were:

      Amex 1.197
      Visa 1.194319
      Mastercard 1.216199

      So Amex are actually better than Visa in this example. I’m surprised by how much better the MasterCard rate is. It’s close to 2% better than the Visa one!

      • You’re right, I found the Amex FX rates after some searching. You need to log into your account first. Checked again for rates, and as of yesterday they show me:
        Amex 1.202 (only three decimal places)
        Visa 1.202500
        MC 1.205280
        The bad Visa rate yesterday must have been an outlier. Looks like Amex is only marginally worse, if at all, than Visa and MC. With my numbers Amex is 0.3% worse than MC with your numbers it is 1.6%, which would be significant. I would discard it as an outlier though.
        Anyone keen to grab a few months’ worth of exchange rate and run a proper comparison?

  12. A word of warning for those considering the debit card options – I opened a Norwich & Peterborough account just to use abroad, but there are a number of fees and conditions, like being charged £5/mth if you go overdrawn and having to pay a £5/mth fee unless you fund it with at least £500/mth. In the end I had money going in to avoid the fee and the straight back out with a different standing order, which was just a pain. So avoid unless you want it as your main current account, and even then there are others who don’t charge you for being overdrawn.
    I’m much happier now with the Halifax Clarity card.

  13. Sorry to go OT but as the PC Visa is mentioned, can anyone shed any light on the voucher issuance:
    I got me card last January 22nd, and passed the target last week. The website now says I will get the voucher 6-8wks )mail or email?) after my next statement, which will be issued about the 9th. I’m not in a rush for the voucher but if it hasn’t arrived can I cancel the card – don’t want to pay the new year’s £99 fee. Is the voucher issued by Barclaycard or IHG: I would think I’m safer if it’s the latter.

    • Thywillbedone says:

      pauldb,
      The voucher appeared on my online account with Barclaycard within a week or two IIRC of hitting my target. I booked my redemption of the voucher and accumulated points through the IHG website using the webchat booking system…fairly painless although I was booking three nights at IC Cannes which necessitated (for some reason) three individual bookings…all handled by the same agent though.

    • Voucher will show online in your IHG Rewards Club account when available.

  14. Exactly. We won’t be taking up the new Aqua card, and will instead by using the Clarity Rewards card which I already have and is also good for ATM withdrawals.

    To be honest you’d have to spend a lot to get much worthwhile at 0.5%. Using Raffles’s example you’d earn £12 per year on £2,400 even if that were possible without exceeding the credit limit. Though we travel for leisure quite a bit we tend to prepay hotels on hotels.com in sterling for the combination of cash back, reward stays and generous Amex Gold reward points so probably spend less than that in foreign currency transactions.

    Assuming it is split over three or more billing periods in a year with at least £300 spend (which is likely for us) the Clarity Rewards will get a greater return, even though spend over £300 on each statement doesn’t get any extra cash back. It is also credited to the account monthly.

  15. hedgie99 says:

    hsbc premier a/c holders get fee-free fx now on cash withdrawals on their debit cards. spending still attracts a fee (2.75%) and the prem mc also attracts a 2.99% fee however

  16. Just found it in T&C for these Lloyds cards:

    “..When you make a Transaction abroad with an American Express Card and the Transaction is not in U.S. dollars, the conversion will be made through U.S. dollars, by converting the Transaction amount into U.S. dollars and then by converting the U.S. dollar amount into sterling. If the Transaction is in U.S. dollars, it will be converted directly into sterling. ”

    I don’t like this …are we still sure that the exchange rate for the Amex is good if I spent lets say in euros?

    • That is the defacto Amex wording. I have never seen any proof that this leads to a worse situation than you would otherwise be in, because both transfers are done at the inter-bank rate. You may lose literally 0.02% or something but that is it.

  17. I have also figured that as this is my only Amex card I can also use it for UK spending not just abroad and still get 1.25 Avios for £1 spent. In the article it almost sounds like you would only get the Avios for spending abroad :)

  18. From March 18th Metro Bank is going to start charging 1.9% on cash withdrawals and purchases outside of Europe :(

    https://www.metrobankonline.co.uk/Personal/Using-your-Debit-or-Credit-Card-abroad/Using-your-Debit-or-Credit-Card-abroad1/

    • Thanks Olly, I will update the article

    • Arghhhh no!! That was my main reason for holding a Metro bank account! I’d moved it there from Nationwide after they started charging too. Thanks for the heads-up though, haven’t heard anything about this direct from them. At least within-Europe is still free as you say.