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Fly to Australia or New Zealand in Business for 63,000 Amex Membership Rewards points

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This deal is probably the most generous mainstream redemption you can get.  After all, we are talking about flying all of the way to Australia or New Zealand in business class for not a lot more than an economy flight to California.

This is not an easy redemption to snag and only readers with a high credit rating will be able to access it.

It is a very simple redemption to explain, though, and it involves using Malaysia Airlines and its little known Enrich loyalty scheme.

Yesterday I wrote about how you can earn a 60% bonus on your entire UK Membership Rewards balance by taking out a free American Express Green International Dollar Card and transferring your UK points to the International Dollar Card points scheme.

Your existing balance is grossed up by the current £/$ exchange rate, so if you currently have 100,000 UK Membership Rewards points you would receive 160,000 points in the International Dollar Card MR scheme.

I also wrote about how certain airlines have a 1:1 transfer ratio from the International Dollar Card Membership Rewards scheme.  This includes Malaysia Airlines and its Enrich programme as you can see here.

The Malaysia Airlines loyalty scheme is not heavily understood by many people.  The US blog Travel Is Free wrote an outstanding overview of how it works in this article although – as he is US focussed – he did not pick up on this deal.

Here is the Malaysia Airlines reward chartThis is only valid for flights on Malaysia Airlines itself not oneworld partners such as British Airways.  Scroll down to the bottom and the table for Zone 6 (7,000+ miles) redemptions.

This shows that a ‘basic’ return flight in Business Class of over 7,000 miles would cost 120,000 miles return.  Malaysia offers a 15% discount for booking your rewards online so you will only need to spend (120,000 – 15%) 102,000 miles.

That will get you a Malaysia Airlines A380 from Heathrow to Kuala Lumpur (fully flat beds) and then onwards to Adelaide, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth or Sydney.

Here is a screenshot from a dummy booking I did on the Malaysia Airlines website to prove that it works.  You will see that London to Sydney, business class, is just 102,000 Malaysia Enrich miles.  That would require just 102,000 points in the International Dollar Card Membership Rewards scheme which (at a $1.60 / £1 exchange rate) would need 63,000 points in the UK Amex scheme.

Malaysia pricing

You can see now why this redemption is, to put it mildly, not for everyone:

  • You need 63,000 UK Amex MR points per person – although Malaysia also has a ‘cash and miles’ option which can reduce that if needed
  • You need to be able to get accepted for the Amex International Dollar Card in order to transfer your UK MR points to the IDC MR scheme
  • You need to hope the transfer ratio to Malaysia does not move
  • You need to hope that Malaysia does not devalue its reward chart
  • You need to hope – and this is key – that the upcoming scaling back of Malaysia’s operations does not impact your plans

If you are looking for a bit of a challenge and are thinking big, though, this is something worth considering.


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Comments (34)

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  • David says:

    Which could happen to any airline…

    The tax is bit high. No more than BA of course, but does have to be factored in.

  • JQ says:

    Bad luck comes in threes, right?

  • richie says:

    Raffles .
    you mentioned you need a v high credit rating for this.
    what is the credit criteria for other cards?

    eg lloyds avios and ba premium.

    iv never had any bad credit , just i dont have much of it. iv only recently taken my first credit card from my nationwide. i thought id use this for a year before i applyed for anything else. i was just wondering how difficult these cards are to get generally.

    • Rob says:

      Amex is very picky about who they give the international currency cards to. It is not really about credit rating in itself, more about you having long established banking relationships. They used to drop the bank reference if you had been an Amex client for 10 years for example (although it seems they may have dropped it anyway.)

      I think this is partly because you are legally running up a debt in another country (the Green card needs to be settled by making a payment to Standard Chartered in New York) and if you did not pay up they would struggle to sue you.

      It is very unlikely in my opinion you would get one if you have only just got your first credit card.

  • pauldb says:

    Also worth noting that there’s no premium on one-way, i.e. it’s ~32k MR which is more achievable (for one person or a couple), if you have a few AA miles or something else for the other way.

  • CXMAS says:

    Also worth consideration is that redemption availability for Enrich members is usually good, availability on BA.com gives no indication of Enrich redemption availability.

    Also, Enrich do regular redemption sales which range from 30% to 50% off the usual points rate – bargain.

    Main problem with Enrich is finding a way of earning points, not so easy when you live in UK.

    Currently MAS have a great promo on for flights leaving BKK. I priced a one way BKK to KUL, then KUL to HKG in business one way at £400.

    • James67 says:

      May be confusing them with some other carrier but do MAS not operate dynamic pricing on awards? I have largely ignored Enrich because I thought this was the case but following Robs post today I will need to take a closer look. Loyaltylobby reported great MH fares exBKK a few weeks ago too. When I checked for a flight to LHR though AY was about half the price with a 3-4 hour shorter journey.

      • James67 says:

        Thanks to both for feedback. I do quite a bit of point to point flying in Asia but usually just use Air Asia as I can get just about anyplace direct and at very low prices and with virtual 100% on time performance in recent years. The revenue J fares on MH within Asia merit more of my attention though but would need to decide whether to credit to BAEC or Enrich.

        • CV says:

          I use Air Asia as default airline when in Asia, but have started to look at combining with MAS/CX using Avios redemptions when the taxes are low (i.e. flights within Malaysia, flights out of Thailand). So I often mix airlines up. Was very tempted by the MAS Business class seat deals out of Thailand, but my Avios balance is well stocked at moment and flights already booked.

          The Enrich programme remains pretty good, both for offers and seat availability. The points do expire though, and being based in UK makes it hard to earn points.

        • Polly says:

          Agree James, we mix and match in that area too, got CX HKG to Bali for 20k miles and £77 total for both of us return, cash price asked was £480pp return, so def worth storing avios for those routes. I guess you could use enrich miles too. But I feel best keep miles in the one program. Air Asia goes in so many directions,it’s a fab set up.

  • CXMAS says:

    Amazes me that people think it’s ok to make comments like that whilst families across the world are left suffering the consequences. Then there is an airline and its staff suffering from lack of moral and job cuts for situations they had no control over.

    Bear in mind that there was a Singapore Airlines flight flying just a few minutes behind MH17, it could so easily have been any other airline.

    • Brendan says:

      Whilst I agree with your point in principle and would have no hesitation to fly MH, it is incorrect to say it could have happened to “any other airline” as some airlines were diligent enough to avoid the airspace (BA. quantas, Cathay)

      • CXMAS says:

        I could list out a load of airlines which flew on that route (e.g. Lufthansa). Airlines were advised at the time that as long as they flew at cruising altitude there was no risk and it was unrestricted airspace.

        Based on specific information received from the UK government BA took a different route – information which wasn’t shared with other airlines.

        http://www.ttgdigital.com/news/mh17-tragedy-could-have-been-avoided-if-airlines-shared-info-emirates-ceo/4692701.article

        Prior to the incident who didn’t trust the airlines and checked themselves the route an aircraft flew prior to buying their ticket? I have been on plenty of flights which have flown over Iraq.

        • Brendan says:

          I agree with all that, I was just pointing out that your statement was factually incorrect.

        • Lady London says:

          ditto. and Afghanistan. I don’t think Ted or JQ meant to be insensitive CXMAS. Ted just expressed a little bluntly the fear that has brought home to all of us. The sympathies of everyone will be with the families as it could so easily have been anyone who flies.

          I feel for the management of Malaysian who must feel they have suffered for reasons out of their control in at least one of their incidents and I know it’s unfair but having said that I was planning to fly them but changed those plans.

          Thanks also for the hint about SQ CXMAS I’m shocked and will check their routes on my next flight with them.

          • James67 says:

            You will find on my flights to or from se Asia you will fly over a few of the ‘stans’ into Russia but now I believe all carriers avoiding Ukraine. Personally I find the turbulence over the Bay of Bengal much more frightening than thoughts of which war zones I’m flying over. Hope you fly MH in future sometime, service and product exLHR on a380 is good.

  • grex9101 says:

    No way I’m ever going on a Malaysian Airlines flight.
    Bad things happen in threes.

  • Mike Martin says:

    My reading of the article and the Malaysian redemption chart is that 63,000 Amex points would only apply to a single person travelling. If you had a companion travelling with you, you would only need 39,313 points per passenger. That is even more amazing.

    The reason why is that the Malaysian redemption chart shows you only need an extra 28,000 miles for a business return companion redemption for a flight of over 7,200 miles e.g. for LHRAUZ/NZ return.

    FYI:- 39,313 = 50% x (120,000 + 28,000) x 85% / 1.6

    • Rob says:

      That does not appear to be the case, at least with online booking – I just did a dummy booking and it wanted 204,000 for 2 people.

    • anon says:

      Your reading is wrong.

      A companion award is to be used in conjunction with a qualified revenue ticket.

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