Virgin messes up ‘Miles Plus Money’ – now best avoided

I have written in the past about the Virgin Atlantic ‘miles plus money’ scheme.  Whilst it had its faults, it could be decent value for money.  I showed in my earlier article how you could get 1.5p per mile of value on occasion.

That is all over.

From August 5th, ‘miles plus money’ will be switching to the Avios model, but will be even worse!

Details can be found on the Virgin Atlantic site here.

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This is what is changing:

Instead of redeeming a set amount of miles for an unspecified discount, which seemed to vary depending on how keen Virgin was to sell out any particular flight, you are now redeeming your miles for a fixed discount:

Spend 3,000 miles in Economy and get a £30 discount per ticket
Spend 7,500 miles in Premium Economy and get a £80 discount per ticket
Spend 15,000 miles in Upper Class and get a £200 discount per ticket

On the face of it, this is a better deal that ‘part pay with Avios’.  Virgin is giving you a discount worth between 1p per mile in Economy and 1.33p per mile in Upper Class.

However ….

What you don’t see, unless you click ‘terms and conditions’, is that flights booked with ‘miles plus money’ do NOT earn Flying Club miles or tier points.

This makes these deals very, very expensive indeed.

Let’s imagine you redeem 3,000 miles for £30 off a flight to San Francisco.  You would have earned around 10,700 Virgin miles for the trip if you’d paid full price – but now you earn nothing.

Your £30 discount has therefore cost you 13,700 miles – a truly terrible redemption rate.

Upper Class is better but not much.  An Upper Class cash ticket to San Francisco would earn 16,000 miles.  Your £200 discount has cost you a total of 31,000 miles, so you have effectively only got 0.5p per mile.  The loss of the tier points is even more important if you are looking for Virgin status.

Virgin is, of course, free to set whatever rules its likes.  I do, however, have a problem with the fact that this ‘you don’t earn miles or tier points’ rule is tucked away in the terms and conditions and not made clear upfront.

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Comments

  1. Simon Schus says:

    Do you think this signals any changes in their 100% redemption tickets?

  2. Chris C says:

    VS M&M have never attracted miles or TPs

    See this (old) page for example. It’s the last sentence of the small T&C section.

    http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb/frequentflyer/mpm/index.jsp

    • I agree with Chris C. We have never earned miles when using the M&M option. That’s the reason we wait until we have enough miles for at least a one way reward.

      • Oh! Matron! says:

        I’ve always believed that you didn’t earn TPs and miles with a M&M ticket. Moving swiftly on…

  3. My guess is that they just haven’t updated the t&cs from the previous incarnation. I can’t believe they would be so stupid to do this otherwise!

  4. William says:

    Yes, i didn’t receive miles when booked these tickets in 2012. They have always been a bad way of using miles but back at that time we had no way of gaining enough miles for redemptions anyway. You could say every little helps but these fares are, as you say, very very poor value.

  5. Iain2015 says:

    This was never a good use of miles now it’s terrible. Sign of further changes in 2016?

    • gumshoe says:

      For the frequent flyer intent on earning miles, TPs and status, M+M isn’t – and never has been – of any use. But it’s not aimed at them.

      It’s aimed at the occasional flyer who’s saved hard for a holiday, accrued some miles via online shopping/Tesco/credit card spend/whatever, doesn’t really care about earning more miles and just wants a good deal (ie most people). For them it’s actually not bad value at all – particularly in PE or UC.

  6. My family has been using M&M for years and we have received 50% of the flying miles every single time we have flown to Florida (roughly twice a year). Never had any tier point to but our miles balance always goes up a little bit each time because of this.