Bits: Amex Plat getting Hilton Gold?, 19 Thistle hotels rebranded, 20% bonus Marriott to AA

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• harry says:

  8 Oct8 October 08:16

  O/T bit

  When buying a BA ticket originating outside UK, you can pay with PayPal and avoid the processing fee – it wouldn’t let me pay with Amex —> PayPal but insisted on getting funds from my bank a/c. [If you pay with a UK credit card, BA recognises this & charges you the processing fee.]

  • JQ says:

    8 Oct8 October 08:26

    What processing fee? BA only levies a CC fee when buying a ticket from the UK in GBP with a UK card, and this is avoidable if you use Amex (possibly with some Visas too).

    So basically you’ve paid BA with bank transfer, plus Paypal’s DCC charge of approx 4.5%. If you don’t set up a DD, then Paypal will be forced to use your linked CC. (You can still withdraw £1650 per year from Paypal to bank without setting up a DD).

    If you pay over £100 with a UK CC, the CC provider is jointly liable if BA fails to deliver what you purchased.

    • Cheshire Pete says:

      8 Oct8 October 08:38

      I’m still confused how t avoid the BA fee, as changing your country never worked for me! Unless I’m spending more than £500 with BA I avoid the charge by using Amex Platinum travel services which sells the same ticket without a charge and you get double MR points into the bargain. Incidentally this is also preferable than booking with KLM direct as another example of saving when using Platinum travel.

      • Nick says:

        8 Oct8 October 13:18

        Thanks!

      • JQ says:

        8 Oct8 October 14:17

        If you won’t need to change your booking then you should always book with amex travel as you avoid the forex fee for non-UK tix. Amex gold gets 3MR per £ and old amex golds get 4.

        • harry says:

          8 Oct8 October 14:47

          It’s not as cut & dried as that, drawbacks include no HBO availability / not being able to book 355 days out with Amex Travel. Both of which are pretty serious if you are also getting Avios RFS redemptions as soon as the 4 Avios flights pop up at midnight T -355 but need a fifth flight on the same plane at cheapest cost.

          I saved nearly £20 by getting the HBO flight for my wife vs Amex Travel.

          And I repeat, last time round [similar situation 1-way BA flight EU—>UK] I guess BA simply identified me as UK by my Amex payee address (OK I’ll try being in Ukraine next time) but it definitely panned out the way I said: ie cost of flight in EU currency got bumped up by the processing fee once I put in my card details because they said it was a UK card.

    • harry says:

      8 Oct8 October 09:00

      That’s not quite right. I have bought a BA ticket in the past: Europe—>UK, initially charged at (say) EUR150, then when I put in my Amex details, I got a message that BA recognised it was a UK card and therefore I had to pay the processing fee.

      And today PayPal hasn’t charged me 4.5%, just the exact amount BA wanted. PayPal presumably gets its fee (from me, anyway) from the exchange rate, which was reasonable. It was almost identical to the HIFX rate, which is always keen. I think it will also take money from BA.

      • Rob says:

        8 Oct8 October 09:07

        Amex does not do country verification, or indeed name verification. BA IT would be getting more sophisticated if they had started checking the BIN numbers of Amex cards.

    • idrive says:

      8 Oct8 October 10:57

      Agreed, BA has no charges for AMEX in EU. Only UK many many many flights bought and no charges.Otherwise, we all could not benefit of the 3X BA Prem, what would be the point otherwise:-)

      • Waribai says:

        9 Oct9 October 09:09

        What’s the 3x BA Prem?

        • Rob says:

          9 Oct9 October 09:13

          Triple Avios for paying for BA flights directly from BA using the BA Premium Plus Amex card

• Rich says:

  8 Oct8 October 08:32

  HHonors Gold in the US – is that for Amex Platinum Business card holders or just the personal card?

  • Rob says:

    8 Oct8 October 09:00

    Definitely personal, not yet clear on small business card from what I can tell

  • James says:

    8 Oct8 October 09:28

    Both: “As a Platinum Card® Member or Business Platinum Card® Member you are eligible to enroll in complimentary Hilton HHonors™ Gold status. “

• Jordan D says:

  8 Oct8 October 10:34

  As someone who’s got HHonors Gold by £10k spend on the Hilton Visa, am almost disappointed if the Hilton Gold appears via the Amex Plat route.

  • Peter K says:

    8 Oct8 October 12:34

    But with your route you would have saved an ongoing £450 a year fee which would have wiped out some if not all of the saving so it’s not so bad.

  • Brian says:

    8 Oct8 October 13:25

    Think of the people who spend all those nights in Hilton hotels, paying the inflated prices that Hilton charges compared with the competition, in order to get status!

    • flibbly says:

      8 Oct8 October 15:50

      Or of course there’s always HHon Diamond for free with BA GGL…

• Ethers says:

  8 Oct8 October 11:24

  On AMEX online travel there was no CC fee last time I booked BA

• nicko-m says:

  8 Oct8 October 12:54

  If Hilton Gold comes back thats a sure sign another Amex Platinum fee hike is on the cards and a (poor) reason for them to increase it.

• Rimas says:

  8 Oct8 October 14:29

  OT bit. Royal Jordanian flights from LHR to BKK business return for £997. Not the best price, but OK.

  • Rob says:

    8 Oct8 October 15:58

    Thanks Rimas, will make a story for tomorrow.

  • Polly says:

    8 Oct8 October 17:03

    Good to know. My OH had to fly RJ. Y recently as BA was full. Very pleasant flight , but still haven’t posted miles yet. That’s an ok price without having to exit the UK, actually, Rob. Good post, look forward to reading about them.

• Nick M says:

  8 Oct8 October 14:58

  RE: Amex card offers

  Does there appear to be any particular logic behind which cards get which offers? – I don’t claim anything unless there’s a reasonable chance that I’ll use it, but is it best to wait until you know for sure that you will (and hope it is still showing) – or does this not really matter?

  • Polly says:

    8 Oct8 October 17:04

    We didn’t get the amazon on any of our 3 cards, plat, BAPP x2

    • YL says:

      8 Oct8 October 22:50

      Just to make you feel better, 4x Amex issued Amex and not a single one receive this Amazon offer!

      • flibbly says:

        9 Oct9 October 10:06

        2 Amex issues “Amexes” and I’ve not had any offers at all for 2 or 3 months now 🙁

        (What is the plural of Amex ?)

• harry says:

  9 Oct9 October 15:24

  O/T noticed Virgin ISA now 6000

  • Rob says:

    9 Oct9 October 23:38

    Thanks, will fill a gap!

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