Extra £100 off BA Holidays as Brexit bites – plus short haul BA sale deals

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• James A says:

  1 Jul1 July 05:48

  There is always an upside somewhere, I suppose! Perhaps longer term BA and others will reverse some of the negative changes to FF schemes?

  • RIccati says:

    1 Jul1 July 07:32

    No chance.

  • JamesWag says:

    1 Jul1 July 07:37

    If they’re expecting a slump in profits they’re more likely to devalue an Avios point even further.

• Ian says:

  1 Jul1 July 07:22

  The only thing that would affect me more than the brexit decision is if oneworld decided to break up… Still waiting for ANY plus side of any of this brexit.

  • mark2 says:

    1 Jul1 July 07:39

    What benefit would you expect to receive in one week?

    • Ian says:

      1 Jul1 July 08:12

      There will be no benefits.

      In 10 years time nobody will admit to voting leave!

      • pauldb says:

        1 Jul1 July 08:55

        That’s a totally blinkered view. I voted Remain and have no qualms with immigration, but how can you argue the ability to have a uniform policy for EU and non-EU migration isn’t a positive, both socially and economically. Likewise we have the chance to negotiate trade deals where the EU has failed to execute because of minority interests – this will take time to play out but are you suggesting we’ll have absolutely zero success?

        • Dave says:

          1 Jul1 July 09:06

          I voted leave and have no qualms with immigration, why we cant agree to keep the current levels of immigration in exchange for access to the single market is beyond me. The exit was about economics and control not the actual legit immigration statistics. My real thoughts were this should not be a public vote and that is even more apparent by the fact PMs on both sides of the fence are jumping ship because their was neither a plan for in nor a plan for out. Its just one big market campaign and nothing substantial at all

        • mark2 says:

          1 Jul1 July 09:14

          Did anyone ever explain the difference between being in the Single Market and WTO rules or an agreement like Canada has just signed. Obviously Remain camp is pushing the ‘Norwegian Model’ as that gives us no benefit.
          My fear is that if Remain people are in the negotiating team they will, consciously on unconsciously get us a bad deal so that they can say ‘I told you so’.

        • pauldb says:

          1 Jul1 July 09:35

          Canada hasn’t got a signed deal because the EU can’t agree on the final points, or on which EU body needs to ratify it. The most relevant distinction of the deal is that it doesn’t involve reciprocal free movement of labour. But it’s easy for the EU to accept that in the case of Canada (the immigration status quo); much harder to accept it in the case of Britain because then Netherlands, Sweden, etc will want the same and the core principles of the EU are at risk.
          Dave, we are where we are: I think the majority are unhappy with net migration at current levels, particularly the jump in EU net migration since 2004, so the govt can’t settle for that level and the EU can’t accept a ceiling either without massive reform.

        • John says:

          1 Jul1 July 09:44

          Without turning this into a political comment thread, I think it’s fair to say that a significant proportion of leave voters do have qualms about immigration whether rightly or wrongly (leaving isn’t going to affect the numbers of “visible foreigners” who are mostly not EEA people)

        • Kier says:

          1 Jul1 July 10:03

          Immigration has been shown to be good for an economy. The vast majority come to the country, work hard, pay taxes and then go home before they ever become a strain on the retirement and health service.

          Those trade deals that will be negotiated will have to be very good to counteract whatever trade barriers may go in place with the EU which is both the closest and largest economy. Its a lot easier for a small or medium business in the UK to start trading with France (for example) instead of trying to get trading with India or China.

      • thunderbirds says:

        1 Jul1 July 22:48

        I voted leave and look forward to 14 billion reasons…

        • Ben says:

          2 Jul2 July 11:33

          In which case you appear to have been misled.

        • Fraggle says:

          2 Jul2 July 18:57

          Hmmm…lets just stick with the “1970’s Trade Federation” thinks Ben…”it’s safer, the alternative is Armageddon”
          Who has been misled you say????
          Remain stoked utter, utter fear. It backfired. Ooooops.

        • Alan says:

          2 Jul2 July 19:42

          If you listened to the independent experts (that Gove clearly has no time for) you got a more balanced view. The Leave campaign sadly downright lied, not least on immigration and NHS funding. Their key strategist from the USA based it on the campaigns there that use emotion rather than facts, successful as a campaign sure but not necessarily for the country…

  • Planeflyer says:

    1 Jul1 July 10:29

    The one I came up which is sort of revelant is that all international flights will have duty free! Still, i’ll happily forgo that to stay in the EU.

• Adrian says:

  1 Jul1 July 07:34

  Like a lot of BA customers I’m hoping this will be a catalyst for change. BA has been raking in profits, using an old tired fleet and have rested on their laurels. The constant cost cutting and penny pinching will continue I’m sure, but if BA feel they have to update then maybe we will get a better product. We flew for the first time in club world last week on seats and with ife that were 10 years old and to be honest it was shockingly poor (and that was the much touted 747 u/d). It’s hard to believe they used to snub their noses at AA. The AA 77W and the 321 Transcon’s are a great product and I’m surprised just how poor BA has become, not just transatlantic but the Club Europe flights were terrible too, there just isn’t any leg room (and this is supposed to be a premium product?). From a lot of reading on FT it’s clear BA is shareholder centric, maybe it’s time to focus on their customers for a change.

  • Simon says:

    1 Jul1 July 08:21

    Trouble is that kind of refresh requires substantial investment. And all companies are shareholder-centric at the end of the day. Nobody would be too pleased if BA were sustaining very large losses yet having a huge bouquet of fresh flowers in each toilet, for example.

    There are plenty of people complaining about it, but still plenty of people flying it. There must be an attraction somewhere, for many routes you can’t even say it’s because they have a monopoly on it. I’m guessing the price point for anyone willing to be a bit flexible and wait for an ex-EU is just right.

    It’s likely that any further efforts will be more likely to reduce cost rather than improve quality; people’s spending power has declined immediately thanks to the currency fluctuations and this is likely to become more pronounced in the coming years if inflation rises with decreased interest rates.

    They have an incredible amount of fixed costs committed for the short-term future (slots, aircraft, staff), and an unsold seat on a flight that has left cannot be recovered. From their point of view anything fare that covers the marginal cost is going to be good news providing that the sale is not at the expense of the higher fare passengers.

  • Bob says:

    1 Jul1 July 11:15

    Well ignoring the fact that BA has a lot of new aircraft on order already to replace the 744 dinosaurs, I think you’ll find that financial hardship usually leads to fleet replacement being deferred rather than brought forward.

• mark2 says:

  1 Jul1 July 07:37

  What benefit would you expect to receive in one week?

  • mark2 says:

    1 Jul1 July 07:40

    this should have been a reply to comment above

• Tilly71 says:

  1 Jul1 July 07:47

  BA have been heavily criticised in the media for turning the EU outcome into a marketing exercise.

  • harry says:

    1 Jul1 July 08:04

    Funny idea of ‘heavily’ you have there! 🙂

    It’s just a few tweets as far as I can see https://digiday.com/brands/british-airways-irks-twitter-users-brexit-fire-sale/

    • Tilly71 says:

      1 Jul1 July 12:02

      It was on msn and yahoo news feeds yesterday.

• mark says:

  1 Jul1 July 07:51

  Ibera have got some good deals on too, not booked yet, but Manchester to Madrid is £59 return on some dates next year. Going to book my little ones first trip to Europe soon with these prices, thanks for the heads up!

  • harry says:

    1 Jul1 July 08:07

    Steel yourself for the outrageous cost of passports – every 5 years, as well…

• Martin robertson says:

  1 Jul1 July 08:00

  For those of us in the regions the BA sale makes it CHEAPER to start from a regional airport than it is from LHR.

  I’ve been keeping an eye out for a couple of months for Feb as we are going to surprise my sister and twin nieces by turning up at their cheer competition (they live in Calgary and won some comp or other to qualify).

  15th -24th was just under £600 from LHR. From NCL it’s £455.
  I’ve coupled that with the current part pay with avios (30,000 for £300 off) which made our total £305 pp and then upgraded the inbound flights to PE for £75 each.

  No need for the usual jaunt to DUB!!!

• Alan says:

  1 Jul1 July 08:05

  Any of these decent short haul deals available from anywhere apart from direct from London? I’m assuming not given previous sales but live in hope BA might have seen sense!

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