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Why the Starwood Amex credit card is a mess – and why you should get it

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If you have never considered getting the Starwood Preferred Guest American Express credit card, there are some good reasons why you should.

Before I explain why, here is some background.

Hotel credit cards in the UK are currently on a bit of a roll.  I think there are four reasons for this:

the withdrawal of MBNA from airline credit cards has dramatically reduced the options if you want a card offering travel rewards

the credit card issuers have done a good job of packaging hotel status benefits alongside the ability to earn points

recent rises in hotel room rates make hotel points more valuable ……

……. whilst continual falls in airline ticket prices, in all classes, reduce the value of airline miles

Against all this, the main downside with hotel credit cards is that – because the hotel schemes do a poor job of recruiting outside partners such as Tesco Clubcard – it is hard to earn enough for a free night from credit card spend alone.

What cards are available?

There are three UK Visa / MasterCard-based hotel credit cards, each of which offers a decent reason for getting them as my reviews explain:

And then you have the Starwood Preferred Guest American Express card.

I am legally obliged to tell you that this card has a representative APR 39.7% variable, including the annual fee, based on a notional £1200 credit limit.

Given the fees charged by American Express to retailers prior to the EU cap on interchange fees, and the £75 annual fee, Amex could have funded a stellar benefits package for this product.  It could have kicked the IHG and Hilton cards into the dust.  Instead they messed it up.

Long-term HfP readers will know that I consider the Starwood Amex card to be a wasted opportunity.

At one point, American Express even asked me to submit a strategy paper to them on ways of improving the product, which they promptly ignored.  It’s a shame, because they could have made it into a strong No 2 in UK loyalty credit cards behind the British Airways American Express Premium Plus.

This was the original SPG Amex benefits package pre 2017:

10,000 Starwood Preferred Guest points (= 10,000 airline miles) as a sign-up bonus

1 point per £1 spent – worth around 1.5p if used for Starwood hotel stays, or 1p if converted to airline miles

No bonus points for spending at Starwood hotels

You received Starwood Gold status for spending £15,000 – but this has no real benefits now that everyone who books direct gets the only real Gold perk of free wi-fi

You received a free weekend night in a Category 1-4 hotel for spending £25,000 per year

Where did this benefits package go wrong?

It is the latter benefit that really confuses me.  Unless you can charge business expenses to a personal credit card, I think that you would need to be earning £150,000 per year in order to make £25,000 of discretionary spending on an American Express card.  This substantially limits the market for the Starwood card, assuming cardholders intend to trigger the free night.

No other UK credit card requires such a high spend target to trigger a reward.

There are few decent SPG properties in Europe in Categories 1-4 which would accept the voucher.  The ONLY UK hotels in Category 1-4 are the Sheraton Skyline, Sheraton Heathrow and aloft at the Excel conference centre and in Liverpool.  These are not, to put it mildly, top weekend break destinations!  Even then, it is only one free night.  At a weekend.  It is unlikely the cash cost of such a room would be more than £75 – a poor return on £25,000 of card spend.

And yet, the card became more interesting in 2017 

Marriott bought Starwood last year.  One of their first moves was to make Marriott Rewards points and Starwood Preferred Guest points interchangeable.  Marriott Rewards points are now worth 1 Starwood Preferred Guest point.

This changed the dynamics of the Starwood Preferred Guest American Express card overnight:

it now offers a way to earn Marriott Rewards points via a credit card, which has not been possible since the Marriott Rewards card was withdrawn two years ago.  The sign-up bonus of 10,000 Starwood Preferred Guest points can be instantly converted into 30,000 Marriott Rewards points.

it makes Marriott Rewards points more valuable, because the impressive Marriott Travel Package awards which I wrote about here are tough (over 200,000 Marriott points) to unlock.  SPG card spend now makes it easier to reach those levels.

it makes Starwood points more valuable because the relatively small SPG portfolio is now bolsted by the global Marriott footprint for redemption

Amex also introduced a new benefit to the card:

you receive double points for spending at Starwood or Marriott hotels (2 SPG points per £1, equal to 6 Marriott Rewards points, so about 3p of value per £1)

Should you consider getting the SPG Amex card?

Yes.

Here’s why.

You can get the Starwood Amex irrespective of what other American Express cards you hold

Even if you already have a Gold / Platinum charge card and a British Airways American Express card, you can still get the sign-up bonus on the Starwood Preferred Guest credit card.

It comes with a good sign-up bonus worth 10,000 Avios

The sign-up bonus is 10,000 Starwood Preferred Guest points.  This increases to 11,000 points if you use a refer-a-friend link – email me at rob at headforpoints.com if you want a link.  10,000 SPG points convert into 10,000 miles with 29 airlines, including Avios and Virgin Flying Club.  Used for hotel rooms, you should get £150 of value from 10,000 SPG points.

There is a low spend target to trigger the bonus

You only need to spend £1,000 within 90 days to receive the 10,000 Starwood points as a sign-up bonus.   This should not be tricky for most Head for Points readers, given that the BA Premium and Gold / Platinum cards have far higher thresholds.

It is a good way of earning airline miles if your airline no longer has a credit card

Now that Emirates, Etihad, Lufthansa, United and – temporarily – Virgin Atlantic no longer have UK credit cards, the Starwood Preferred Guest Amex is the best way to earn miles in these programmes.  There are also 20+ other airlines who never had a UK credit card, such as Air Canada and Qatar Airways, where this credit card is the best way to earn miles in the UK from day to day spend.

The £75 annual fee is refundable pro-rata if you cancel

You can cancel the card at any point and receive a pro-rata refund of the annual fee.

If you collect Marriott Rewards points, it is a great way to build up your balance

And if you don’t want to build a large SPG balance, you can use your points for airline miles.

My full review of the Starwood Amex credit card is here.  You can apply for the card here.


How to earn Marriott Bonvoy points and status from UK credit cards

How to earn Marriott Bonvoy points and status from UK credit cards (April 2024)

There are various ways of earning Marriott Bonvoy points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

The official Marriott Bonvoy American Express card comes with 20,000 points for signing up, 2 points for every £1 you spend and 15 elite night credits per year.

You can apply here.

Marriott Bonvoy American Express

20,000 points sign-up bonus and 15 elite night credits each year Read our full review

You can also earn Marriott Bonvoy points by converting American Express Membership Rewards points at the rate of 2:3.

Do you know that holders of The Platinum Card from American Express receive FREE Marriott Bonvoy Gold status for as long as they hold the card?  It also comes with Hilton Honors Gold, Radisson Rewards Premium and MeliaRewards Gold status.  We reviewed American Express Platinum in detail here and you can apply here.

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

You can also earn Marriott Bonvoy points indirectly:

and for small business owners:

The conversion rate from American Express to Marriott Bonvoy points is 2:3.

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which can be used to earn Marriott Bonvoy points

(Want to earn more hotel points?  Click here to see our complete list of promotions from the major hotel chains or use the ‘Hotel Offers’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.)

Comments (110)

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  • Tao says:

    Would I get sign up bonus if I currently have BA Amex?

    • mark2 says:

      yes

    • Alan says:

      From the article
      “Even if you already have a Gold / Platinum charge card and a British Airways American Express card, you can still get the sign-up bonus on the Starwood Preferred Guest credit card.”

  • George says:

    OT: I currently hold a personal Platinum Amex charge card. As a small business owner am I able to get a mew membership rewards account (with sign bonus) for a Amex Platinum Business charge card? Or does the 6 month rule apply?

    • Rob says:

      Rule applies. A business cannot have an MR account so it would be in your name and you already have one.

  • Rike says:

    I have 1 million SPG, 1.2 million avios & 1.5 million membership rewards, but didn’t have the xmas party ticket. Would love to share my thoughts of how to use them with u guys though.

    • Rob says:

      Next year everyone will get to come, hopefully. Already working out ideas. We may even trial a summer event.

      • Steve-B says:

        Great 🙂 I think a summer event could be very popular and hopefully opens up more venue opportunities…

      • Mr Dee says:

        Yes need some similar ideas on spending Virgin points

        • Rob says:

          Just sit and wait until the end of 2018 when KLM and Air France become partners. Whole world opens up with decent business class products.

    • Genghis says:

      Please post some of your tips here.

  • Nick G says:

    Any tips on our situation rob/genghis. We’re not in the same league as some on here but we both have Amex gold and both supplementary on each. Wife just about to hit the 10k bonus then cancel then churn. Same for me when it comes round. We put about £1600 a month on the card. We both have the basic BA Amex aswell.

    I don’t really know if I’ll get loads out of the platinum due to the cost and we don’t travel as much (kids!). I’m thinking where to channel my spend or am I best sticking to our churning pattern. One thought I had for a free night was the Hilton card plus this card. Or even the BAPP to hit a 241 voucher. I’m looking at mainly flights or hotels as rewards to help keep the cost down on holidays.

    Any tips on where i should Channel my spend or just stick as I am. Which I’m perfectly happy with just wondered if can make more out of spending

    • Graham Walsh says:

      Maybe upgrade to Amex Plat for the bonus and then churn? As you say look at the Hilton card or maybe IHG Black. Or stick with Amex to collect MR as a general currency.

    • Steve-B says:

      @Nick G, it really depends on your comfort levels re churning and personal strategy. Remember that you don’t need to hold on to your Platinum long term – get the upgrade bonus and cancel. Many folks report the fee not posting on PRGC upgrades until the anniversary date (including me!). There’s lots of advise on here re not having the basic BA Amex – the BAPP’s £195 fee pays for its self given the additional earning rate, bonus and 2 year expiry. If you plan to go for a 2-4-1 consider accumulating enough points and 2 vouchers – 1 voucher with a family of 4 doesn’t work well. Finally don’t spread your points strategy too thinly if you can only generate modest numbers of points. 184k on Gold/Plat churn /yr per couple is very doable if you’re prepared to put the work into diarising the applications/cancellations.

      • Nick G says:

        Thanks. But am I right in thinking that if we both currently hold the free BA Amex we can’t get the sign up bonus on the BAPP until we close either card then leave it 6 months to reapply?

      • Genghis says:

        @Nick G. Steve B gave some good advice. Work out what you want to achieve first and then work out how you’re going to get there. I.e. it’s pointless saving Hilton points if you can’t stay in hotels due to your family size etc. £1,600 spend a month is still decent = £38,400 over two years.

        Remember prorata refunds on each of the directly issued Amex cards, e.g. to hit a Plat sign up spend requirement of £2k would cost you 2/1.6 x1/12 x 450 = £47 for the 35k MR points.

        In a two year period, you could do 2 x BAPP cards and 3 x Plat His and Hers cycles and 3 SPG his and hers (spend 2 x 10k + 2k x 2 x 3 + 1k x 2 x 3 = £38k of spend (well within your spend rate).

        I’m sure you can run the numbers yourself on how much this would actually cost you in £££ terms and how many points you’d get (note if you start from say a Plat card at first you can now refer to other cards for 18k MRs but this needs to be balanced against a potential increased cost of holding the cards for a longer period of time. You need to run the numbers for your circumstances.

    • Crafty says:

      To piggyback on this, once your gold card hits the 10k bonus, does it come immediately or at year end? (Can one straight away do the Platinum upgrade?)

  • George says:

    Hi guys,

    Can I apply for an Amex gold card get the 20k points, close it and reapply after 6 months to get the bonus? Newbie here. Thanks

    • Genghis says:

      Yes

    • Alan says:

      If you get someone to refer you (Ask your friends/relatives) then you will get 22,000 points and they will get 9,000. If you don’t have any friends/relatives with the card then Rob will happily refer you

      • Bob says:

        I alternate every 7/8 months with my wife so both get the referral bonus If you’re married or have a partner you’re onto a winner.

  • Jake says:

    how long wait until I can sign up again for the bonus points?

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