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Virgin Little Red closure – cheap redemptions, big flight bonuses, who gets the slots?

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The announcement of the closure of the Virgin Little Red domestic routes to Manchester, Aberdeen and Edinburgh was badly timed for Head for Points – I was sitting in a departure lounge at Heathrow waiting to take a six hour flight.  The extra 24 hours has allowed me time to pull together all of the relevant information.

The Little Red services launched in March 2013, using airport slots freed up by British Airways under pressure from the European Commission following its takeover of bmi. 

I have flown Little Red twice and I liked it – although that was partly because the planes were almost empty, which was of course the problem.  The Aer Lingus crews who staffed them were cheerful and Virgin had taken some hints from Virgin America in terms of cabin lighting.

Fares were laughably cheap even at short notice.  Given that you also earned Virgin miles and tier points at a decent rate, it was a bargain.

The failure of these services surprise me.  Despite the wind of the Virgin PR machine behind them, plus attractive fares, they still could not fill the planes.  Perhaps too many people were going directly to ba.com or the low cost carrier websites to book their tickets, where the Virgin option would not appear?

The lack of a lounge in Terminal 1 was an issue (Virgin ended up dumping Servisair and giving out coffee vouchers instead). 

The move to Terminal 2 has given them the Aer Lingus lounge which is pleasant enough and the Manchester and Edinburgh options are arguably better than the BA lounges.  The failure to attract connecting passengers to Virgin long haul flights is not a surprise given the need to change terminals – passengers in Manchester and Edinburgh could also choose long-haul flights via the Middle East or other hubs.

All in all, though, I struggle to think of what else Virgin could have done to make it work.  Good pricing, good crew, attractive interiors, status matches, miles and tier points …. what else could you do?

When are the routes closing?

The last Manchester flight will be on March 28th.  The Aberdeen and Edinburgh routes will close on 26th September.

You can read the full press release here.

What bonuses are available for flying Little Red?

A base level member will now receive 2,000 Flying Club miles per return flight.

A Silver member will receive 3,000 and a Gold member will receive 4,000.  This is very generous given the low cost of the flights.

What redemption deals are available?

Good ones, if you have status.

A standard Little Red return flight was 7,500 Flying Club miles plus £34 tax.

Effective immediately, a Virgin Silver member can book a return flight for just 5,000 miles plus tax.  A Gold member can book for a crazy 2,500 miles plus tax!

These discounted deals must be booked by telephone.

Will they still be matching BA Gold and BA Silver cards onboard?

I wrote recently about how Little Red was offering on-board status matches to passengers who had British Airways status.  We need to wait and see if this will continue.  With the Scottish flights still having a year to run, Virgin may consider it worthwhile to continue with this.

What happens to the landing slots?

The Heathrow, Aberdeen and Edinburgh take-off and landing slots used for the Little Red flights all belonged to bmi.  British Airways was forced to divest them as part of the takeover.  Two of the Manchester slots were already owned by Virgin and will be retained – in the short term I imagine Virgin will lease them out.  The other Manchester slots were also from bmi.

This is what the European Commission said:

As a general rule, the slots obtained by a prospective entrant must be operated on the city pair(s) for which they have been requested from IAG and cannot be used on another city pair unless the prospective entrant has operated them during at least six full consecutive IATA seasons (“the Utilisation Period”). The prospective entrant would be deemed to have grandfathering rights for the slots once appropriate use of the slots has been made on the city pairs at issue, for the Utilisation Period. Once the Utilisation Period has elapsed, the prospective entrant would be entitled to use the slots obtained on the basis of the Commitments exclusively to operate services on any route connecting London with any other part of Europe (including Aberdeen and Edinburgh), or on London-Moscow, London-Cairo and London-Riyadh.

If Virgin had run the services for three years, it would have been able to close down the routes and retain the slots.  However, those slots could only be used for flights to Europe, Moscow, Cairo or Riyadh.  It is interesting that Virgin did not see this as attractive enough to keep the services going for another nine months or so.

My understanding is the slots will now revert to British Airways.  This is not a bad little earner for them – you are looking at around $150m-200m of slots based on recent prices.  However, if another airline wishes to launch a route between Manchester, Edinburgh and/or Aberdeen and London, it can apply for them.  I am not sure what the process will be and how long the offer remains open.

What happens to the planes and crew?

The planes belonged to, or were leased by, Aer Lingus.  The crew was also employed by Aer Lingus.  If they were leased specifically for these services then they will presumably return to the owner.  The future for the crew looks bleak unfortunately.


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Comments (53)

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  • Max says:

    Virgin seems to be sliding down the pan, what with the recent international route cancellations and now Little Red on the way out.

    Delta may have the smaller share at 49% but I suspect they are pulling all the strings now.

    I would not be at all surprised if Virgin are gone entirely within the next 5 years.

    • Rob says:

      Surely not. After all, it would be illegal under EU law if Delta, a US company, was found to be influencing the behaviour of an EU airline …..

    • callum says:

      To me this just seems like the old “America wants to run the world” prejudice. Every time anyone does anything that could conceivably benefit America or an American entity, people automatically assume it was a conspiracy.

      While Virgin Atlantic integrating closer with Delta clearly benefits Delta, it also benefits Virgin. The Transatlantic market is incredibly busy yet still incredibly profitable – it’s not as if the benefits are therefore one-sided towards Delta. And as the name implies, it was founded as a Transatlantic airline – going back to its routes is just as plausible as being secretly manipulated.

  • Rob P says:

    Someone on v-flyer.com who flew on Monday posted that the crew had been offered long haul roles – hopefully the majority can take the offer up

  • Erico1875 says:

    Coincidence they they are throwing in the can as Ryanair launch Edin and Glas to London Stansted?
    Just as BA couldnt make Edi to Ibiza work,despite being half the cost of Ryanair and Jet2.
    Many customers, especially in the regions, dont even look at BA and Virgin,just expecting them to be too expensive.

    • Mark says:

      Undoubtedly. The LCCs have been very good at positioning themselves as being much cheaper, which may have been true a few years ago but these days less so, especially once extras are taken into account.

      Ironically BA’s counter that they don’t have the hidden extras is also now less true with headline fares also now reflecting hand baggage only fares and next to no food in SH economy.

      The products and value on offer are converging which is a good thing for anyone who actually bothers to look at a comparison site. Unfortunately for BA many don’t.

  • James67 says:

    In my opinion the biggest problem was lack of promotion; I cannot recall ever having noticed a Little Red advert in any media.

    And why Little Red? Why not Virgin Britain or just about anything where Virgin was the dominant visible brand.

    As I understand it, Little Red, or any other airline using the slots has to offer the same number of seats as BMI did. This is unhelpful to any new entrant because it provides them with little opportunity to compete with BA other than on price and frequent flyer benefits. Had Virgin been avld to offer fewer seats and done so by intruducing a decent short hall busuness product it may have been a different ball game but to be honest I doubt it because at the end of the day there were insufficient Heathroe slots to make it work.

    My guess is Virgin set out to run the routes for 3 years simply to grab the Heathrow slots. However, tgeir plan backfired due to poor loads and they simply did not want further losses. Possibly Delta influence on Virgin again.

    • Mark says:

      I doubt that was ever Virgin’s aim. The only benefit three years would have brought is the opportunity to use them on European flights which with no SH network wouldn’t have helped.

      Fundamentally the move was driven by Branson’s anger not being successful in acquiring BMI, a desire to deprive BA of what few slots he could and to demonstrate that they could at least make those work. Unfortunately that has rather back-fired and it has really only proved that only BA has the scale these days to operate a SH hub operation out of Heathrow successfully. One operator with limited domestic destinations and frequency was always going to struggle, and the fact that people had to change terminal to transfer into VS LH not helpful.

  • J Dook says:

    Bad news on the BA monopoly from the regions.

    Although flight deck and planes were leased, Cabin crew were employed directly and understood they will be offered long haul positions.

    • Max says:

      Unfortunately some crew will be short-haul for a reason- they want to go home at the end of a long day to their families, not spend 2 days grounded in LA or wherever.

      • J Dook says:

        Very true !

        Too frequent when airlines fold, or bases change, the crew job losses are a foot note. Hopefully something will fill the void sooner rather than later.

  • chan says:

    I went to Manchester yesterday and go at least once or twice a month. I choose BA because I have lifetime Sapphire status with OW and like using the lounges before I fly out on each end. Yes the fares were a bit better on LR, but lack of point accumulation and no lounge access is why I chose BA.

  • Idrive says:

    I am sorry to hear this piece of news but this will mean that i will book my first weekend in Scotland and my first ever Little Red flight to enjoy some good Beef,Scotch,rain and ghosts while racking up some miles. By the way i agree many people expect BA to be expensive and don’t even look at fares. At the moment BA/OW is the first choice as Vueling has opened up slots to my country.

  • Alan says:

    Really disappointed with this, liked the service and the T2 option from EDI. Amazing earn/burn rates for Golds though in the closing year of the service!!

    • Oh! Matron! says:

      Agreed. £2K and 20 return flights, and you’d have had gold!

      My folks are all in manchester and as I can see LHR from my desk, amazingly quick to go and see them

      Going to have to start earning tonnes of telco club card points to fly with BA now…. At least there’s a shuttle bus from work directly to T5 🙂

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