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£1,100 business class fares ex-Scandinavia across all alliances to US West Coast

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Just after Christmas I wrote about some of the excellent deals available in the British Airways sale in Club World if you were willing to start your trip in Dublin.  Prices are (they are still bookable) as low as £1,100 return to Hawaii.

Something odd is clearly happening in the Scandinavian airline market as oneworld, SkyTeam and Star Alliance are all now fighting it out with similarly priced fares to the US West Coast.

These fare are available for travel from now until the end of October.

Basically, you can take your pick from various airlines and various alliances if you are looking to build up status with someone in particular.  Taking a random set of dates (1st – 10th July) Expedia offers me for Oslo to Los Angeles:

£1,069 return – KLM via Amsterdam (SkyTeam)

£1,086 return – Lufthansa / Air Canada via Frankfurt and Montreal (Star)

£1,087 return – Brussels Airlines / United via Brussels and New York (Star)

£1,101 return – Lufthansa via Frankfurt (Star)

£1,161 return – British Airways via London

It is also worth checking fares from Copenhagen which are similar – albeit with a little less choice.

You should shave a couple of pounds off these fares by avoiding the Expedia fees and booking directly at ba.com, lufthansa.com, klm.com etc depending on alliance.

If you want to head to the East Coast, SkyTeam business class tickets to New York start at £921, albeit Oslo is a major diversion from the UK to head to NYC!  Good for British Airways tier points of course.

Comments (74)

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  • DS says:

    The prices from Copenhagen went up today, untill yesterday New York
    with SkyTeam and Star was 6700DKR (ca £700) now it’s around £900.
    OneWorld prices has also gone up, but was never as low as Star and ST.
    Would have been a good way to try AF and KLM’s new
    Business Class, AF one way KL the other.

  • Jeremy I says:

    I’m sure most are aware but last night I found ex-Dub business class fares to NYC (Returning on BA2 into London City if you want) for around £850 in the summer holidays, vs £900 for flights from London in economy! Madness.

  • Tony smith says:

    If you use the employee promo code you can get 13% off ba com . Just managed to find it after 2 months of looking! Thanks Rob!!

    • Brendan says:

      And the code is…? I’d have thought they would require to see something as proof when you travel

  • Manuel says:

    Interesting tips here all. This hobby is becoming an addiction 🙂

  • Andy Green says:

    I’m found a terrific deal flights from Dublin via Heathrow to Los angeles in September return for two people business class with British airways is £1300 all in plus 18000 avios points.

    Can anyone tell me, do we gain avios points in the flight even though we have upgraded our seats using avios from premium economy
    To business?

    Also we are taking the flight from Heathrow and missing the Dublin connections. Would we get credit for this part of the journey even though we don’t actually travel it?

    • Brendan says:

      Andy I hope you know that you MUST take the first flight from Dublin. If you miss a flight on the itinerary the rest of it will be cancelled. You can drop the last leg from LHR to DUB but you might have problems if you have checked baggage as they may refuse to short check it to London instead of Dublin

      • Andy Green says:

        Thanks for this I had no idea.

        Not an issue now I know as we can book a night or stay with a friend in Dublin for the first night

        Is this definitely the case?

        • @mkcol says:

          Yes.
          Definitely.
          Has been warned about multiple times on here (& elsewhere).

          I’d thoroughly recommend sorting yourself out a positioning flight to DUB, however you’re welcome to try & skip the first sector to prove us all wrong.

          • Andy Green says:

            British airways flights duly booked to DUB the day before for the princely sum of £74 each

            Total trip is £720 instead of £2600. Happy with that

        • Alan says:

          Absolutely 100% totally absolutely the case! Please don’t book these sort of tickets if you’re not sure of the rules. The Flyertalk thread goes through this all in great detail and Raffles has also highlighted it in his posts. It would be a disaster to miss the first leg as you’d lose your entire booking and holiday – there’s also no way BA would countenance allowing this otherwise who would ever book ex-UK if there wasn’t even the hassle of positioning to the EU destination.

          • Rob says:

            Thanks Alan, I might have missed this comment. You MUST take the first flight. Skip the last one if you want but not the first one.

          • Andrew says:

            Sorry for my ignorance but how do you skip the last leg?

          • Rob says:

            Er, you just don’t get on the plane!

            However, your bags WILL go on the plane which is why you want to book the last leg from a different airport if you can to ensure the bags are returned at Heathrow (eg City if Dublin).

            If no flights from another airport, book the last leg for the next day (but under 24 hours stopover) and tell check in at your origin that you in a hotel at Heathrow and need your luggage. Should work, does for me.

          • Andrew says:

            forget that found all the info I need, many thanks.

    • Alan says:

      You’ll get credit for the underlying paid for fare, ie WTP in this case. You won’t get credit for not flying a sector (not unsurprisingly!), remember any subsequent sectors are then automatically cancelled so this is only ever possible for your last sector. Even then I wouldn’t make a habit of it in case BA decide to ask you for the fare difference!

  • Mark H says:

    As a corporate travel agent myself I was looking at these yesterday to fly OSL – LHR – SFO//LAX LHR – OSL which was £1368 and today it has jumped to just short of £2k!! I also checked Ex ARN and HEL and these fares since yesterday have increased by around £500. Seems that BA must read this page as they have now pulled all the sale fares Ex Scandi 🙁

    • Andy says:

      The sale ended on 15th Jan for certain locations e.g. BRU, ARN, OSL, that’s why the prices went up. The sale for DUB or CPH ends on 27th Jan so there is still time.

  • oyster says:

    It’s getting harder and harder to justify using Avios on long haul now.

    Avios in CW to New York is 80k return plus £600ish of rip-off fees. These ex-europe fares of around £1,000 assuming an Avios positioning flight earn at least 10k Avios.
    So a net loss of Avios of 90,000 for £400 – 0.44p per Avios and only 0.88p using a 2-4-1 voucher.

    Oh and not to mention the stack of tier points thrown in.

    I am obviously talking leisure fares, have no idea how anyone can do an ex-EU for work.

    • Polly says:

      Easy if you are booking your work flights yourself! But that’s the problem, work plans can change, and most of these ex EU fares are fixed In Stone! You fly or you lose em!

  • Speedbird_ABZ says:

    I’m confused.
    I recommend ITA Matrix and find flights for friends all the time, but I can’t find availability on these ex-Scandinavian deals.
    I have promised a friend I will take him to the US in business class this year.
    Firstly the best fares are the current ex-DUB in August to HNL/LAX/NYC etc etc.
    BUT, seeing the above I got a tad excited because I want to travel in October, but I really am struggling.
    My ITA Matrix site is in meltdown because I’ve put in so many options that I think I’ve exhausted it.
    Has anyone found any Scandinavia-West Coast US fares as above for October?
    Ideally the HNL trip was what I wanted but second choice is LAX/SFO stopping off on NYC on the way home. I’ve tried without the NYC stop as well, but well, it ain’t happening.
    I hate asking because I am usually the one giving advice, so any help gratefully received!
    Thanks

    • Rob says:

      Hmmm. Despite the rules it does seem that nothing is loaded for October, even on other airlines, based on a few examples I ran.

      • Speedbird_ABZ says:

        Thanks Raffles, thought so. I shall be keeping an eye out for the next sale – got my friend very excited about his first Business trip.

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