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What I have learned about ‘loyalty’ and ‘deals’ in the first week of Shopper Points

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Ten days ago, I launched Shopper Points.  This is a site devoted entirely to Tesco Clubcard and Nectar and is designed to help the many, many people who come to HfP looking for Clubcard deals but are put off by the frequent flyer focus.

All of the best Clubcard deals will continue to be covered on Head for Points, but Shopper Points will cover all bonus point offers.  We – and I genuinely mean ‘we’, as I have someone helping me write it – will also be desperately trying to find some value in Nectar for the Sainsbury’s shoppers out there 🙂

Anyway ….

To launch the site, I booked some Facebook advertising.  This was targetted at people who had shown an interest in Clubcard and the ad promoted my exclusive TopCashback sign-up deal.

What could go wrong?  I was showing an advert to people who are already interested in Clubcard, offering them 1,000 points for joining TopCashback.  TopCashback, remember, is a business with 4.5 million existing members and is one of the fastest growing private companies in Britain.  If you choose the free option, it doesn’t cost you a penny to join.  Who could be unhappy about that?

Suddenly, however, I start getting comments posted on the Facebook ad.  (The ad was technically a post and could therefore be commented on.)  ‘Scam’.  ‘Must be a scam’.  ‘Seems too good to be true, must be a scam peeps’.  ‘Scam’ etc etc.

These were comments posted by people who had been shown the ad in their feed.  Without actually bothering to read about the deal, they decided to diss it.  Not one person actually gave any reason for saying what they said.  These are people who had already shown an interest in Clubcard, remember.

This has never, ever happened with any Head for Points article.

It set me thinking.

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Let’s look logically at some of the deals I discuss on HfP.  Let’s take the Hilton Visa card, for example.  This gets you a free night at ANY Hilton Family hotel when you spend just £750 – a pretty easy stretch for most people in a full-time job.

This bonus is worth £250 if used properly, ie at an expensive Hilton, Conrad or Waldorf-Astoria.  On that basis, why haven’t 2 million people taken out this card?  Why doesn’t everyone in the UK travelling to New York get this free card, spend £750 and get a free night in a suite (the hotel is all-suite) at the five-star Conrad?  A couple could get two cards and get two free nights.

Let’s take something more straightforward.  Amex Gold is free and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points.  Even if you ‘waste’ them by redeeming for Amazon gift codes, you will still get £100.  OK, hitting the spend target on this card is harder but it is still £100 for almost nothing.  For someone on the average UK salary of £26,500 (£81 per day net) we are talking about 1.25 days of salary for 20 minutes work of filling in the form and cancelling the card later.

When I go into John Lewis, I am bombarded with people desperate for me to take out a John Lewis credit card – for which I will get a £10 sign-up bonus.  Hilton will give you something worth 25x as much.  Amex Gold is worth at least 10x as much.

Why do these deals never go mainstream?  I know that frequent flyer schemes are complex – this site wouldn’t have much to write about if they weren’t! – but the Hilton and Amex Gold offers are straightforward.  The personal finance sections of the newspapers don’t cover them, even though they get excited about a free £10 John Lewis voucher.

As I found this week, the very idea that a company may be giving away 1,000 Tesco points as a marketing incentive is seen as literally unbelievable by some people.  Logically it is sensible marketing by TCB, especially compared with an expensive TV or press campaign which would cost them far, far more per new sign-up.

In the frequent flyer circle, we ‘get it’.  We understand why companies offer deals, even deals which seem remarkably generous.  Even Qatar Airways £800 business class fares to Asia make sense when you know they have a high sunk cost (a plane), a perishable product sold in a small market (business class seats from Copenhagen) and modest variable costs (low fuel prices). It isn’t really ‘something for nothing’ when you know how the business works.

Similarly, TopCashback knows after all these years how much revenue it will make from the average new member over the first few years.  If they can sign people up for, say, 50% of that cost (ie the cost of the Clubcard points) then it makes perfect sense.

Do the wider general public fail to understand how business works?  Or have they been burnt by too many dodgy deals in the past?  Whatever the reason, the reaction I got to my Facebook advertising this week was absolutely not what I expected.

Comments (110)

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  • Will says:

    From telling my friends about the benefits of the Hilton card and Amex gold they tell me they would prefer a cash back card rather than something that gives you points. I wonder if the majority of people when selecting a credit card think the same.

    • nerd. says:

      ^ This. I find points cards are only of any value for sign-up bonuses. The ongoing earning rates don’t warrant exchanging ‘cash’ which can be spent anywhere for a similar or worse value of points, which are restricted.

  • Mycity68 says:

    And I thought it was just me who had friends and family that don’t get it.

    • Henry says:

      Some people find it … erm … uncharitable … when I point this out but the logic is irrefutable: by definition, half of the population is below the median in intelligence. 🙂

  • Gavin says:

    Mentioned the concept to a friend who does a lot of business travel and earns quite a high salary.

    His response “I don’t trust credit cards, I pay everything with cash or debit cards. You just want to get a referral bonus off me.”

    Never mind, I suppose miles and points refuseniks subsidise the hobby for us!

  • Jason says:

    We live in a world where if it’s too good to be true – it generally is 🙁
    However at HFP if it’s too good to be true – then just do it 🙂
    And have a bl**dy great time doing it sat at the front of the plane drinking KRUG……he says having just booked some seats in F on Etihad for next October 🙂 🙂 🙂

    • Simmo says:

      Too good to be true, until the odd few abuse the system and ruin it for the majority!

  • Will says:

    I disagree about the mainstream aspect somewhat. Amex are really pushing their gold reward card and its benefits, massive billboard signs at tube stations and on tubes for example.

  • Koshka says:

    I think sometimes it just needs the right person to explain it. I’ve spent years telling my parents about what I do and how I do it. They’ve never opened anything other than a Clubcard and the old Amazon credit card. I’ve also explained about having mutliple current accounts to earn more interest. This weekend my dad told me all about how his best friend from school is basically doing all the same things. He seemed to finally get it.

    In my wife’s case she just thinks it’s too time consuming (but that didn’t stop her raving about the cocktails when she used one of our Shard vouchers on Sunday).

  • Kerry says:

    An interesting post Rob – I suspect one key reason for this sort of reaction is the amount of scams that do actually appear on a regular basis (just yesterday a relative shared a post promoting a free draw to win one of two Range Rovers!). Couple the amount of scams doing the rounds with the general perception of “you don’t get something for nothing” and I guess this is to be expected.

    • InsideFlyer Tom says:

      Totally agree with this – I’ve seen so many times on Facebook friends “liking” a clear Tesco gift voucher/Clubcard points “like-harvesting” scam, that I think when it comes to any offer of this type, a scam is now fully assumed by most.

      Of course it still doesn’t justify people writing it off totally without bothering to look.

  • andystock says:

    Dont waste money on Facebook advertising it has such a poor image for scams etc.

    • Rob says:

      For the right thing, I have found it working well. I think it is less suitable for Shopper Points because, frankly, the percentage of Clubcard collectors who are ‘geeky’ enough to want to read a website about it is fairly low. The percentage of Avios collectors who are ‘geeky’ (bad choice of word but you get my drift) to want to read a specialist website is fairly high.

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