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Amex says ‘business cards must now only be used for business expenditure’

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The repercussions from the EU changes to interchange fees on credit and charge cards continue to filter through the market.

One way a card issuer can circumvent the 0.3% cap on fees is to issue ‘business’ cards as these are not capped.  The reason for this was quoted on ft.com yesterday in an article about Curve:

Mastercard stated:

We are supportive of the exclusion of commercial cards from the interchange cap as they are very important to the UK. Commercial Cards are a very different product compared to consumer cards, offering merchants, cardholders, and companies / governments providing them to their employees / civil servants specific and sophisticated services, which come at a higher cost to issuers. Unlike consumer cards, which compete with cash, commercial cards do not replace cash but traditional invoicing, which is a less efficient, less transparent, and more costly form means of payments. Commercial cards are also important in supporting small businesses as a vehicle for flexible short term financing. Capping interchange fees for Commercial cards would make issuers reconsider their issuance.

American Express Business Gold card

How you define a ‘commercial’ card is a complex question of course.  Some people I have asked believe that a commercial card will, in future, need to be settled from a business bank account.

American Express seems to be taking steps to protect itself with two changes to its Gold Business and Platinum Business cards this week.

(These cards come with generous sign-up bonuses by the way.  Gold Business offers 20,000 Membership Rewards points whilst Platinum Business offers 40,000 points.)

Here is the wording sent out:

“We will add new wording to your Agreement to clarify that you and any Supplementary Cardmembers may only use the Card for business purposes.  This means that you and any Supplementary Cardmembers must not use the card for personal expenditure.”

There is also another change of the rules which means that supplementary cardholders no longer have any liability for the spending they make.  The primary cardholder is solely responsible for settling their bill.  

I am only guessing, but I assume that this is because Amex has verified that the primary cardholder is ‘in business’ and so can hold a commercial card.  If the supplementary cardholder – who would usually be an employee – was liable for their own spending it could be used as evidence that Amex was issuing cards to ‘non business people’.

It isn’t clear whether Amex will deliberately start to close down Gold Business and Platinum Business accounts if it sees large volumes of personal spending going through.  They may feel they have no choice if the alternative is to lose their ability to charge a higher interchange fee.   At the moment, however, this is a moot point because the cap on interchange fees does not currently apply to Gold and Platinum Amex cards as I understand it.


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Comments (54)

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  • Adam says:

    Can’t see they’d have any reliable means of identifying personal vs business expenditure. I buy a new TV on Amazon? Could be for the office. I spend £200 at a restaurant? Could be Client entertaining. I can’t think of any personal expenditure that couldn’t in certain scenarios be legitimate business expenditure.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Does that mean someone who puts lots of business expenditure through and expenses it to their company wouldn’t then be able to have one of these?

    • Tom C says:

      Indeed. It’s not my fault that my clients insist on meetings taking place in the Maldives several times a year.

  • Dave says:

    What about Corporate cards? I have to settle my Amex bill personally, and reclaim the expenses from my employer, so would be easy to put personal spending through that and just not claim the expenses…

    • Jeff says:

      Yes, I had the same – corporate card from the bank I worked for but had to settle the bill myself. If I hadn’t paid, then the bank would have been liable. As you say, I don’t see how most personal / business expenditure can be distinguished by the card issuer.

      Ironically, cards such as Tesco say you mustn’t use the card for business expenditure to earn points.

  • clarence says:

    if we leave the EU what effect will that have on cards like Curve

    • harry says:

      No point wasting time thinking about it – Remain is clearly ahead – it’ll be something like 60:40.

      Back to the future – result in 1975 was 67:33.

      • will says:

        +1.

      • Will says:

        In ’75 people were voting on a single market – post Maastricht the issue changed a lot, and the polls might be skewed due to old people being a banker to vote (leave) and young people unlikely to be bothered to vote (remain).

        Either way, always pays dividends to do some contingency planning.

      • Yuff says:

        Let’s hope everyone comes to their senses in the next 3 weeks then and votes out.
        Although the threat of WW3, if we do leave, I’m sure will be very persuasive!!!!!!!!

        • Alan says:

          Let me correct that for you – comes to their senses and votes in 😛 Would be a disaster for the scientific and medical community!

          • Yuff says:

            Fortunately I can return home where we decide who we allow in, not many fortunately, and the state isn’t over burdened funding the NHS and benefits for foreigners! Hence 20% tax rate and no vat!

          • Alan says:

            Haha enjoy, I prefer provision of decent universal healthcare but each to their own 😀

          • Bruce says:

            There is a country called ‘Norway’ which, being outside the EU but needing access to the single market (as the UK would be), is still bound by EU rules and has to allow free access to EU citizens (as the UK would). Black and white, in or out, all or none, absolutist thinking is easier of course – but not realistic.

        • Boris says:

          World War 3 not on my nelly.

          All the liquorice allsorts are going to become instantly radioactive.

  • John says:

    Another great perk of being in the EU… they love to meddle with everything don’t they. In the words of Major General Tim Cross – bugger off Junker & co.

    • Callum says:

      By virtue of being in the EU, I think you mean “we” not “they”… You’ll notice UK MEPs largely voted in favour of the legislation.

        • Callum says:

          I can think of a million things I’d rather spend an hour doing than watching a Jeremy Paxman documentary about EU bureaucracy!

          Regardless I’m not voting anyway as I’ll be abroad and it’s too much of a hassle – plus it’s win-win-win for me. If we stay I’m happy, if we leave and prosper I’m indifferent, if we leave and suffer I’ll be smug.

          • harry says:

            Pound should go up, I’m waiting on a couple of £thou transfer to our place in the sun as I think it’s worth a few quid

    • Paul says:

      Yawn. Please could you keep politics out of this forum.

      • Will says:

        Even when the discussion is a result of a political decision (good or bad) which is the case here?

        What it does show is that the EU certainly is active in your daily life (imho good in this case, and roaming charges – and I say that as a Brexit supporter)

        • Rob says:

          I really would keep discussion of this issue off HFP, given that I have a German wife, two half-German kids and Anika is also German ….!

          • idrive says:

            +1, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO RFS, you reckon:-))))

          • Will says:

            Last time I checked Moscow wasn’t in the EU (price up an avios redemption there;))

          • Boris says:

            Not good enough Raffles.

            If you do not watch it Mr Cameron will make you appoint your own Diversity Officer, and then you will have to employ somebody French too.

            This ‘speakers of colloquial English only’ policy must be violating some Directive or other.

          • Paul says:

            Seriously Raffles can you ban this nonsense from HfP? If i want to read about politics then there are plenty of good websites/blogs/forums for that. This (great) blog/site is about points – not scoring political points.

          • Rob says:

            That comment was meant to be a polite way of saying I just have …..

          • Paul says:

            ah…missed that. ta.

  • will says:

    I’ve just applied for the platinum and will be using for mixed spending – suspect like a lot of folks.

    I also added my wife as a supplementary card holder. In the blurb it wasn’t clear they had to be an employee but perhaps that’s changing?

    I was asked to provide further id about my business at registration so guess this is an example of the tightening but they did refer to new rega (2014 I think).

    Re. How I use the card…how would they clamp down on this? I can understand they could be even stricter with the applications but they’d have to place a tag an ‘personal’ spending in each and every account. Sounds a bit fiddly!

    Will

    • DV says:

      The contract has always stated that supplementary cards are restricted to employees, partners or directors IIRC. Something to think about if you wish to rely on some of the benefits in the supplementary card.

      • Will says:

        good point…shall I say it wasn’t clear on the form? Either way, fair point taken.

  • aliks says:

    I had the Amex Business Gold Card last year, can I reapply after the usual 6 month break, and get the welcome bonus again?

    • Rob says:

      I think so, yes. Rules should be on the Amex website in the small print.

  • The_Real_A says:

    My biz expenses for the last month £50 at waitrose (snacks for team meeting), 5 x £5 lidl (didnt fancy a hotel meal), several uber rides, various tanks of diesel.

    All legitimate biz expenses. There is no way you can understand a typical business customer.

    However, i do believe that legislation does state “settled directly by the business” so this could be a future requirement.

    • Yuff says:

      It’s ridiculous to think that could be enforced, my directors loan will be repaid towards tesco gift cards…. 🙂

  • Ryan says:

    I have a personal Gold American Express. If I get a Business Platinum Amex, is there a way to combine the MR Points should I choose to close my personal card?

    Also, I gather the transfer of points etc. works in the same way as it does on a Personal Card?

    • Rob says:

      In theory, you won’t get the bonus. The points go into a personal account (there is no such thing as a corporate MR account in a company name AFAIK) and you already have a personal MR account.

      Some people get lucky because Amex misses or ignores the existing personal account.

    • Czechoslovakia says:

      It can be done. I had a personal plat. Then also a genuine business plat for my company. Downgraded the personal plat to a plat CREDIT card. Got bonuses for both charge cards, and all points are now shown only in the business plat online, but post from both cards. I did not request this, the telephone agent just did it.

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