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British Airways stops ‘two ticket’ bag transfers and disruption protection – even to BA flights

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Back in mid May, a HfP reader sent me some gossip which I found a little hard to believe and which I couldn’t verify.  oneworld alliance airlines would no longer be required to check baggage through to other oneworld airlines from 1st June when travelling on separate tickets.

This means that if you were flying from London to Berlin on British Airways for cash and then onwards on an Avios redemption on airberlin to Abu Dhabi (which is an amazing value redemption) British Airways is no longer required to check your bags through.  You would need to collect them in Berlin and recheck them.

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1st June came and there was no announcement – not surprisingly, as I was told that this would be done very quietly in the hope that no-one noticed.  Slowly but surely examples started to emerge.  Not from British Airways but from Cathay Pacific.

British Airways has, finally, now made an announcement and it isn’t good news:

From 1 June 2016, the oneworld policy on accepting customers travelling on separate tickets was changed. BA, along with our oneworld partners, has implemented this change in policy which is as follows:

Only those customers that have separate tickets issued in the same PNR/booking for flights operated by a oneworld partner, will be accepted for through check-in.

If you are changing between oneworld airlines on the SAME ticket you do not have a problem.

It will only apply when you are connecting to another oneworld flight on a separately booked ticket, which is likely to be the case if you are mixing an Avios ticket with a paid connection.

This is, to be honest, a bit of a kick in the teeth for customers who thought that by booking flights with members of the same alliance they could have an easier time.  There could be real issues here, especially if you need to exit the airport in order to check in your baggage before clearing security again.

You may even need to obtain a visa pre-travel for the country where you are transiting in case you are required to go landside to re-check your bag.  This is not scaremongering from me, this is what Cathay Pacific has written in their own guidelines:

Please remind passengers opting to travel on two tickets that additional connecting time at their transfer point might be required as they will be required to re-check in either after landing or at the transfer point depends on each airport’s set up and facilities. Landing visa for transfer point might also be required.

BA will not even check baggage to other British Airways flights

In a separate document issued to the travel trade, BA has said that it will not even check baggage through to other British Airways flights now if each flight is on a separately booked ticket.

This is slightly crazy because BA is creating extra work for itself by having to check your bag in twice.  It is VERY possible that you might be mixing two British Airways flights on separate tickets.  If you live in Manchester and cannot get an Avios redemption on short-haul to match your long-haul redemption, you may well decide to pay cash.  That will now cause you serious difficulties.

You will have another snag.  You will no longer benefit from the rule that says you get the highest luggage allowance carried across to other flights.  This means that if you paid cash for a Manchester to Heathrow to connect to a Heathrow to Miami on Avios, you may end up paying for additional luggage on the short haul flight – even if you are inside your allowance on the long haul flight.

Whether going BA to BA or BA to oneworld, it is possible that you may have existing flight bookings where it will now be impossible for you to make your connection due to the time required to do this.

It might reduce overcrowding in airport lounges though – by the time you’ve got your bag and queued up to check it in again, it will be time for your next flight.

For the record it is worth noting that Cathay Pacific, in a similar document to travel agents, has specifically said that it WILL continue to transfer baggage to other Cathay or Dragonair flights on separate tickets.

Disruption protection has also been removed

There was also an unwritten rule in the past that oneworld partners would protect passengers who missed their flights due to a late connection from another oneworld partner.  This has also been removed, when the flights are on separate tickets.

BA has also removed this protection from its own connections.  If you miss your flight to Miami on BA because your BA flight from Manchester to Heathrow was late – and you booked on separate tickets because you couldn’t get an Avios redemption for the connection – BA is no longer obliged to reroute you.

Here is the official wording:

What it means for customers if they are not accepted for through check-in

  • Do not use Minimum Connecting Times
  • They will have to collect their bags on arrival at the destination on the ticket
  • They will have to re check-in at the departure airport of their onward travel
  • Different baggage allowance may apply to for each flight
  • If the arrival flight is delayed they are eligible for normal compensation (i.e. EU Legislation) for the delayed flight only
  • They cannot claim any costs associated to their onward flight if the arrival flight is delayed

In reality, I am sure that BA would still help you out – but it would probably tell you to come back in two days when the next spare BA seat was available, rather than paying to reroute you on another airline.

So, to clarify …..

If you have connecting flights on the same ticket, nothing changes. 

If you have connecting flights but on two tickets with two ticket reference numbers, your luggage will no longer be checked through.  It must be collected and rechecked at each airport.  You will need to pay additional baggage fees if your long haul allowance is larger than your short haul allowance.  If you miss the next flight in your schedule due to a late incoming aircraft, there is no obligation to reroute or rebook you.  This applies even if connecting from BA to BA.


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Comments (198)

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  • Sam Wardill says:

    What about tickets bought before 1st June?

  • Mandy says:

    Being in the regions, I always thought the free connection on redemptions was quite generous, so didn’t whinge too much when that was removed. However this adds another dimension entirely, and may be the final nail in the coffin. The flexibility of a redemption booking was one of the huge perks. Point to point ex-London that’s still do-able, but is now even more complicated from the Shires.

    • Cheshire Pete says:

      You mean you were allowed in the days gone by 3 legs per sector, then it reduced to 2, and now it is only one. It was never a generous ‘free’ benefit, it was a dumbing down of the redemption system over the years. Don’t forget travelling from London to say Alicante was always possible from LHR via Madrid then onto Alicante using the same avios as a direct flight from LGW to ALC. Oh for the days when you got 3 hops, will they ever return…….

      • Mandy says:

        I simply meant that until recently the Region-London leg didn’t cost you any more avios on top of the long haul. Hence “free”. I don’t really remember the prior iterations. But BA worked well for us. I’m not sure I feel so strongly any more.

      • harry says:

        It was clearly an over-generous benefit and I can quite see that cutting out the cost of the extra hop/s was justified – on Avios redemptions.

        Where the passenger is using the short hop to join up with long haul cash ticket, it is still free, again for justifiable commercial reasons.

  • Erico1875 says:

    Maybe the publishers of Willies new book “how to ruin your once popular business for dummies” have brought the deadline forward

  • Mapman says:

    This will make B2B on ex-EU fares somewhat challenging for those with more than hand baggage. And it’s going to be a pain for ME3 ex-EU fares, too. I was hoping that next year’s QR PSA-AKL-FRA would allow the return to have bags checked from AKL to LHR for the return positioning flight but it looks as though now it will be a faff of collecting the bags, going through security, dropping bags, and getting back airside. Not much fun (of corse this assumes that QR gets its planes to start the service at some point before April 2017!).
    It seems to me that this is a back door route to making life harder for those doing ex-EU fares but has the unintended consequence of hacking off regional full fare BA clients. Do the people in BA really understand their client base at all? “To fly, to serve on our terms not yours, you poor pathetic customers” may be the next iteration of the mission statement.

  • Chris says:

    At what point might you expect travel insurance to cover you? If the first flight is late in, could you claim if you missed your second flight even though you had to go through customs, collect your bags and check in or is it an open and shut case because it’s a separate booking?

  • Bruce says:

    If you are travelling on Oneworld, and the separate tickets are in the same PNR, then they will still through-check the baggage. But since you can’t mix a revenue ticket with a redemption ticket in the same PNR, you’re now screwed in that scenario. So much for a “seamless” travel experience, which is something that all these alliances tout.

  • Arno says:

    If you have two redemption tickets, domestic to London then a separate ticket London to San Diego, they are on separate tickets, but I would expect my bags to be put through. Is this still okay?

    • Bruce says:

      Not unless the tickets are in the same record. Do they have the same booking reference? If not, the new policy applies, and you will have to claim and re-check.

    • Polly says:

      No Arno, this is not ok. They will not be put through unless the check in agent is unaware. They are seperate tickets. That’s what this post is all about. You may have to change your domestic ticket to allow you way more time to re check in for San Diego, sorry!

      It really is hitting the regions more than anything, I think. And we EX EU folks will just have to factor in that extra day either end of our trips to facilitate this option. Make ex EU even more attractive. Luckily we are overnighting in Dub prior to our NYC trip from there. QR will be e main beneficiary of this policy. Long may their fares last.

      Good point Rob about lounges too, as everyone will be so busy collecting bags and then checking in bags. Security and check in queues will be chaotic again. Talk about customer friendly !

  • Frankie says:

    Everyone is saying sod off BA and not flying with them again. But their planes are still full. Business colleagues in my work who fly regularly (usually BA as company has arrangement with them and gets corporate discount) glaze over when I tell them about changes and complain about BA. Maybe us HFP people are such a small minority and the money keeps rolling into BA regardless.

    • Paul says:

      In the race to the bottom BA is out in front and the vuelingisation continues apace. This is such a low cost operator thing to do.
      Given the savings involved in not using BA and flying ex EU as well as the significant improvements in service this change will not stop me doing what I do now. I might have to make some changes and either take earlier connections or book a room. In reality however it might actually make ex EU less stressful as till now I have always worried about tight connections and the bags.
      What is scandalous and unacceptable is the underhand and dishonest approach to implementation. Based on previous rules it was perfectly reasonable for passengers to book separate tickets and have bags interlinked. At the very least notice of this change should have been given of at least a year. I believe BA and one world should allow free changes to existing short haul connections to ensure passengers are not further penalised by this change. Shocking behaviour from Oneworld and BA in particular whose crazy pricing in th UK was almost certainly the catalyst for this change.

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