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British Airways stops ‘two ticket’ bag transfers and disruption protection – even to BA flights

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Back in mid May, a HfP reader sent me some gossip which I found a little hard to believe and which I couldn’t verify.  oneworld alliance airlines would no longer be required to check baggage through to other oneworld airlines from 1st June when travelling on separate tickets.

This means that if you were flying from London to Berlin on British Airways for cash and then onwards on an Avios redemption on airberlin to Abu Dhabi (which is an amazing value redemption) British Airways is no longer required to check your bags through.  You would need to collect them in Berlin and recheck them.

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1st June came and there was no announcement – not surprisingly, as I was told that this would be done very quietly in the hope that no-one noticed.  Slowly but surely examples started to emerge.  Not from British Airways but from Cathay Pacific.

British Airways has, finally, now made an announcement and it isn’t good news:

From 1 June 2016, the oneworld policy on accepting customers travelling on separate tickets was changed. BA, along with our oneworld partners, has implemented this change in policy which is as follows:

Only those customers that have separate tickets issued in the same PNR/booking for flights operated by a oneworld partner, will be accepted for through check-in.

If you are changing between oneworld airlines on the SAME ticket you do not have a problem.

It will only apply when you are connecting to another oneworld flight on a separately booked ticket, which is likely to be the case if you are mixing an Avios ticket with a paid connection.

This is, to be honest, a bit of a kick in the teeth for customers who thought that by booking flights with members of the same alliance they could have an easier time.  There could be real issues here, especially if you need to exit the airport in order to check in your baggage before clearing security again.

You may even need to obtain a visa pre-travel for the country where you are transiting in case you are required to go landside to re-check your bag.  This is not scaremongering from me, this is what Cathay Pacific has written in their own guidelines:

Please remind passengers opting to travel on two tickets that additional connecting time at their transfer point might be required as they will be required to re-check in either after landing or at the transfer point depends on each airport’s set up and facilities. Landing visa for transfer point might also be required.

BA will not even check baggage to other British Airways flights

In a separate document issued to the travel trade, BA has said that it will not even check baggage through to other British Airways flights now if each flight is on a separately booked ticket.

This is slightly crazy because BA is creating extra work for itself by having to check your bag in twice.  It is VERY possible that you might be mixing two British Airways flights on separate tickets.  If you live in Manchester and cannot get an Avios redemption on short-haul to match your long-haul redemption, you may well decide to pay cash.  That will now cause you serious difficulties.

You will have another snag.  You will no longer benefit from the rule that says you get the highest luggage allowance carried across to other flights.  This means that if you paid cash for a Manchester to Heathrow to connect to a Heathrow to Miami on Avios, you may end up paying for additional luggage on the short haul flight – even if you are inside your allowance on the long haul flight.

Whether going BA to BA or BA to oneworld, it is possible that you may have existing flight bookings where it will now be impossible for you to make your connection due to the time required to do this.

It might reduce overcrowding in airport lounges though – by the time you’ve got your bag and queued up to check it in again, it will be time for your next flight.

For the record it is worth noting that Cathay Pacific, in a similar document to travel agents, has specifically said that it WILL continue to transfer baggage to other Cathay or Dragonair flights on separate tickets.

Disruption protection has also been removed

There was also an unwritten rule in the past that oneworld partners would protect passengers who missed their flights due to a late connection from another oneworld partner.  This has also been removed, when the flights are on separate tickets.

BA has also removed this protection from its own connections.  If you miss your flight to Miami on BA because your BA flight from Manchester to Heathrow was late – and you booked on separate tickets because you couldn’t get an Avios redemption for the connection – BA is no longer obliged to reroute you.

Here is the official wording:

What it means for customers if they are not accepted for through check-in

  • Do not use Minimum Connecting Times
  • They will have to collect their bags on arrival at the destination on the ticket
  • They will have to re check-in at the departure airport of their onward travel
  • Different baggage allowance may apply to for each flight
  • If the arrival flight is delayed they are eligible for normal compensation (i.e. EU Legislation) for the delayed flight only
  • They cannot claim any costs associated to their onward flight if the arrival flight is delayed

In reality, I am sure that BA would still help you out – but it would probably tell you to come back in two days when the next spare BA seat was available, rather than paying to reroute you on another airline.

So, to clarify …..

If you have connecting flights on the same ticket, nothing changes. 

If you have connecting flights but on two tickets with two ticket reference numbers, your luggage will no longer be checked through.  It must be collected and rechecked at each airport.  You will need to pay additional baggage fees if your long haul allowance is larger than your short haul allowance.  If you miss the next flight in your schedule due to a late incoming aircraft, there is no obligation to reroute or rebook you.  This applies even if connecting from BA to BA.


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Comments (198)

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  • Mr 1A says:

    Apparently AA aren’t implementing this at the moment which suggests it’s been driven by another One World member – reported here:

    http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2016/06/10/american-says-arent-ending-checked-baggage-separate-oneworld-reservations/#_ga=1.38011492.61217127.1465496126

  • AA says:

    And a BA employee wanted to defend an airline who is doing their upmost to destroy loyal travellers?
    So long EU flights no longer get hot food.
    Can no longer check bags through on two sepperate bookings.

    EasyJet and Ryanair must be laughing.

  • BA-Flyer says:

    I understand money can be saved by not being responsible for a missed connection. But how does it cost BA more to simply tag the bag to the final destination? Is it not possible to remove the missed connection protection, but retain through-checked bags?

    • JamesLHR says:

      When your bags misses a transfer, the final carrier has the responsibility of reuniting the bag with you. Interlining of bags costs a lot of money to do, for the screening of the bag and courier costs. The airport handling costs for a bag are much lower than these. In accepting the bag you are assuming liability for it and the passenger when they mis-connect.

      • littlefish says:

        Interesting insight. Noted.
        I simply cannot believe interlining is not cheaper (it involves less people, less interactions, less time and less distances). Sounds like internal pricing gone woefully wrong.
        So, possibly, inter-stakeholder buck passing arriving at a “logical” answer without regard to the whole; driven partly by outdated ‘liability’ rules.
        Result. Consumer ends up worse off and creating MORE pressure on already stretched airline check-in and security (which pressure is desperately trying to be reduced). And possibly explains why AA are currently saying “don’t be so silly” ….

        • Blackberryaddict says:

          Why can you not believe interlining is not cheaper? I suspect the cost of checking in the bag is not dissimilar to interlining it . These are often weird connections that nobody normally does. And the cost of reuniting bags with their owner is substantial – the departments, people, systems, space at airports, couriers etc.

          But I suspect the real motive behind this is to prevent the DIY way of putting together trips. Ignoring the specific case of redemption tickets and paid tickets, the only reason we do this is because it is cheaper than a through ticket. I think the airlines, and especially BA want to reduce this, and force us to buy a more expensive through ticket. Hence they make it more difficult, and the cost of the DIY connection goes up, making it less attractive, and more likely we go for a through ticket.

          And even for the Avios redemptions to holds – I think BA would rather have you book a direct LHR-AUH with Avios, then the cheap alternative via Berlin.

          • Susan says:

            So it costs more money to put an interlined bag right when something goes wrong. Maybe if fewer bags went astray the cost s would be lower- do it once do it right.

    • zsalya says:

      Once they have accepted the bag, they cannot feasibly deny responsibility for getting the passenger to their destination.

      And I have always reckoned that in airports where baggage transfer is more efficient than passenger transfer, having bags already accepted for the second flight effectively gave one another ten-twenty minutes to get to the gate, because it would take them more than that to find and offload the bag.
      Perhaps this is the real driver from BA’s point of view – to reduce the average delayed-minutes on departures, either because of the knock-on costs, or because some executive has that as his/her target.

  • DavidR says:

    When we were flying SKB-LGW-EDI last month, the check-in agent struggled badly to check our bags through all the way – it took 25 mins and a long phone call. She blamed ‘the new computer system’. Makes me wonder if BA’s announcement is due to poor design of their lastest software?

  • Robin says:

    Just to clarify your paragraph Rob,
    “In a separate document issued to the travel trade, BA has said that it will not even check baggage through to other British Airways flights now if each flight is on a separate ticket.”
    I think they say that applies if they are different PNRs . Which is understandable , maybe, as cross-referencing/linking two PNRs for through check-in may be technically difficult…

  • Michael says:

    If BA refuses to through-check a bag and it’s a tight connection, just board the flight anyway – when you get to your destination then raise a bag report – BA will then fly it out the next day. If questioned just say ‘they always used to through-check it’ 🙂

  • David says:

    What happens if you are connecting from one BA to another BA flight like MAN-LHR and LHR- MIA but on two PNRs but BA lose your baggage from MAN. Will they still forward it to MIA or is one stuffed in MIA with no clothes???

  • Bigglesgirl says:

    Well this has completely messed up my upcoming flights CGK-HKG on CX followed by HKG-LHR on BA with a layover of 3.5hrs. I booed these separate redemptions months ago on the assumption that I can check my luggage through with two one world airlines on separate tickets – done it loads of times before without any issue.
    So, I have just rung CX and had a chat with a lovely lady there who basically has confirmed that the policy is now in place, it was just hoisted on them without any consultation and she couldn’t understand why they were doing it either. After all, what’s the point of having an alliance if you’re not making for smoother travel.
    Therefore CX, who are excellent IMHO, are now going to lose out on my custom as I’m going to use up some spare miles I have with Flying Blue to fly with Garuda in order to get me to HKG in time to go through the nausea of collecting and re-checking my luggage! After all, despite my layover being 3.5hrs, what if the CX flight is late, what if the immigration queue is exceedingly long, etc, etc – if the BA Disruption Policy is also now live, they sure as eggs-is-eggs won’t be helpful by looking to stick me on a future flight when my original booking is a First class Avios redemption!

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