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Even more things you need to know about the BA Amex 2-4-1 voucher

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Yesterday I ran a long article entitled ‘Everything you need to know about the BA Amex 2-4-1 voucher’ which attracted a lot of feedback.

Looking at the comments during the day, it was quite clear that it was NOT everything you needed to know.

I updated the article during the day but if you read Head for Points by email or only saw the article in the morning then you would have missed the additions.

BA Premium Plus American Express card BAPP

Here are some of the additional comments asked by readers, together with my replies:

Are there any easy ways of reducing the taxes payable?

Not easily, because you must start a 2-4-1 journey in the UK and thus incur Air Passenger Duty.  There are two options though:

Start your trip in Jersey, because Jersey is outside the UK for APD purposes but inside the UK for 2-4-1 purposes.  If you fly Jersey – Gatwick – Heathrow – XXXXX your taxes charge will be a lot lower.  You cannot stopover in London for more than 24 hours or full APD is charged regardless.

Start your trip in Inverness.  There is no APD out of Inverness.

There is also no APD out of Newquay but as BA does not fly there this does not help you.  On a standard (non-241) Avios redemption, flying Newquay – Gatwick (Flybe) – XXXXX (BA) would avoid APD.

What small print do I need to know?

I added the following:

There are no circumstances under which you can ask BA to extend a 241 voucher.  Don’t waste your time.

You cannot use ‘part pay with Avios’ in conjunction with a 2-4-1 voucher.  Your booking must be ‘100% Avios’.

‘Gold Upgrade For Two’ vouchers (issued when you earn 2,500 tier points) can be used in conjunction with a 2-4-1 voucher.

You will not earn Avios or tier points on your redemption flight in line with standard Avios redemptions.

Your flights will not be cancelled if you cancel your BA Amex card after making your 2-4-1 booking.

You can fly a different class on the outbound to the return.  However, both passengers must travel together in the same class.  You cannot fly in First and book your companion in Club World if there is only 1 First reward seat available.

BA Amex 241 companion voucher

Can I travel with an infant or book without my baby being born yet?

Ye.  For infant (under 2) bookings you pay 10% of the Avios and 10% of the taxes of an adult passenger.  This can be booked online.

If your child is not yet born, book for the two adults and then call to add the baby when it has arrived and has a name!  These rules apply to standard Avios redemptions as well.

If I cancel my BA Amex card after earning the voucher, is it lost?

No.  It is not clear if you would lose the voucher if you booked a redemption and then cancelled it – would the voucher be reissued if you no longer had a BA Amex?  A recent HFP reader who did this found his voucher was returned.

If I downgrade from the Premium Plus to the free card after earning my voucher, do I retain the 2-year expiry period?

Yes.

Can I change my class of travel if seats open up in a higher class after I’ve booked?

Yes.  Standard Avios change fees apply of £35 per person, plus of course the additional Avios.  You need to call BA to do this because of the 2-4-1 voucher being involved.

Conclusion

As I wrote yesterday, there are still two weeks left to apply for the British Airways American Express cards before the sign-up bonuses drop.  If the idea of earning a companion voucher appeals, this is as good a time as any to apply.

The bonus on the free card is increased from 3,000 Avios to 9,000 Avios points.  £1,000 of spending within three months is required.  The application form is here.

The bonus on the Premium Plus is increased from 18,000 Avios to 25,000 Avios points.  £3,000 of spending within three months is required.  The application form is here.

If you have any further questions about the voucher, please ask them in the comments.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (221)

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  • Vinz says:

    There is a way of extending a voucher but only if you know the right people at BA – not through customer service. 😉

  • Billy says:

    Apologies in advance as this is unrelated. Amex is currently offering 20k points for a £2k for the Gold Charge card. Is this a promotional offer or is this just standard? Thinking of applying but might hold off if the rate is likely to go up.

  • Oyster says:

    Being slightly pedantic but infant taxes aren’t exactly 10%.

    I think the YQ element is zero, as is APD. The rest of the charges are whatever the various airport and government agencies charge for infants. Some are free, some are not. Those friendly folks at LHR, for example charge 100% of PSC for infants (nearly £50).

    On a one way long haul redemption from LHR it means infant charges will be approx 10%, but would be less at LGW, more like 5%

    • Wayne Phillips says:

      Yes!
      People will find this page on google long after we’re all gone, so worth getting it right now

  • Fiona Whyte says:

    My husband and I both had BA Amex ( the free one).He has now cancelled his with a view to getting the BAPP Amex in 6 months time so as to get the sign-up bonus. Can I as a BA Amex (blue) then recommend him for a BAPP so as to get the referral Avios??

    Just wondering!!

    I never knew about Inverness being APD free – my mum’s in the Highlands and we’re 2 hours from her so I guess we’ll start our 2-4-1 trip from there when we go to Oz!! 🙂

    • pauldb says:

      Yes you can refer him. It may seem as though you are referring him for the free BA card but he’ll be able to choose the BAPP through the link.

    • Polly says:

      And you should just be in time for the next higher bonus points for the BAPP card. Good luck in getting flights all the way to Oz. You might get to SIN, KUL etc F often available, then hop over to Oz on another airline like MAS or whoever…great if you can avoid APD out of INV.
      We might try from JER next time, save us going to OSL or HEL on QR, once we have our 560 TPs on QR towards our silver.

  • Nick says:

    Rob, great for the 2-4-1 voucher. How about a similar in depth look at the upgrade voucher (Lloyds) for those solo travellers or those that don’t aim for the 2-4-1. I would be interested in reducing fees such as flying from Jersey etc.

  • John says:

    GGL members of BAEC can get 241 vouchers extended. So it’s not impossible if you have the right status level.

    • Mike says:

      True but the zillion tier points required for GGL puts it out of reach for the masses on here.

      • John says:

        There are thousands of GGL members.

        • Rob says:

          About 8,000 I believe. Still a bit of a minority sport. That said, as I know quite a few of them I might see if I can get one to knock up an introductory article.

          • h2d says:

            The “Gold Guest List beginner’s guide” on Flyertalk tells you everything you need to know, great source of info when you first hit 5,000 TPs

        • Mike says:

          I’m aware of the number via flyer talk chat / threads but (respect to Rob) suspect their won’t be many of them lurking here.

  • Jonathan E says:

    Can I just check something: 2-4-1s have to be used and outgoing flight has to be flown before voucher expiry – is that right? I have a voucher expiry Nov ’18 and wanted to use to book in Aug 18 for Aug 19. This is not possible?

  • Clive says:

    OT: If I book each leg of a VAA reward flight as a one way as it becomes available, does this cost any more or less in taxes than if booked as a return…?

    • Charlie says:

      For HKG it will be significantly less as two one-way redemptions. Where are you going?

      • Clive says:

        It would be the USA. Thanks for the info re HKG – good to know.

        • Charlie says:

          Probably best if you price it up online using Virgin’s website.

          • Clive says:

            That is a good point. I had just wondered if there was a general rule about these things 🙂
            If anyone’s curious to know, re one-ways to the US – it is cheaper, tax wise, to book the reward flights as a return.
            Pricing up for September this year, taxes on a return are £498.52.
            One way to US is £335.02, and one way back is $437.60 (=£351.25). Total = £686.27

    • Scallder says:

      Clive – I’m doing a return to Atlanta in April and 2 one ways were more expensive then a return. However just like BA, it’s perfectly able to call up Virgin and have a return put on a existing outbound and it will recalculate it all.

      It would be worth having a look at the specific route – do dummy bookings for a return, as well as each one way separately, and it’ll show you the cash costs of all options, so you can easily see which is cheapest.

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