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Even more things you need to know about the BA Amex 2-4-1 voucher

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Yesterday I ran a long article entitled ‘Everything you need to know about the BA Amex 2-4-1 voucher’ which attracted a lot of feedback.

Looking at the comments during the day, it was quite clear that it was NOT everything you needed to know.

I updated the article during the day but if you read Head for Points by email or only saw the article in the morning then you would have missed the additions.

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Here are some of the additional comments asked by readers, together with my replies:

Are there any easy ways of reducing the taxes payable?

Not easily, because you must start a 2-4-1 journey in the UK and thus incur Air Passenger Duty.  There are two options though:

Start your trip in Jersey, because Jersey is outside the UK for APD purposes but inside the UK for 2-4-1 purposes.  If you fly Jersey – Gatwick – Heathrow – XXXXX your taxes charge will be a lot lower.  You cannot stopover in London for more than 24 hours or full APD is charged regardless.

Start your trip in Inverness.  There is no APD out of Inverness.

There is also no APD out of Newquay but as BA does not fly there this does not help you.  On a standard (non-241) Avios redemption, flying Newquay – Gatwick (Flybe) – XXXXX (BA) would avoid APD.

What small print do I need to know?

I added the following:

There are no circumstances under which you can ask BA to extend a 241 voucher.  Don’t waste your time.

You cannot use ‘part pay with Avios’ in conjunction with a 2-4-1 voucher.  Your booking must be ‘100% Avios’.

‘Gold Upgrade For Two’ vouchers (issued when you earn 2,500 tier points) can be used in conjunction with a 2-4-1 voucher.

You will not earn Avios or tier points on your redemption flight in line with standard Avios redemptions.

Your flights will not be cancelled if you cancel your BA Amex card after making your 2-4-1 booking.

You can fly a different class on the outbound to the return.  However, both passengers must travel together in the same class.  You cannot fly in First and book your companion in Club World if there is only 1 First reward seat available.

BA Amex 241 companion voucher

Can I travel with an infant or book without my baby being born yet?

Ye.  For infant (under 2) bookings you pay 10% of the Avios and 10% of the taxes of an adult passenger.  This can be booked online.

If your child is not yet born, book for the two adults and then call to add the baby when it has arrived and has a name!  These rules apply to standard Avios redemptions as well.

If I cancel my BA Amex card after earning the voucher, is it lost?

No.  It is not clear if you would lose the voucher if you booked a redemption and then cancelled it – would the voucher be reissued if you no longer had a BA Amex?  A recent HFP reader who did this found his voucher was returned.

If I downgrade from the Premium Plus to the free card after earning my voucher, do I retain the 2-year expiry period?

Yes.

Can I change my class of travel if seats open up in a higher class after I’ve booked?

Yes.  Standard Avios change fees apply of £35 per person, plus of course the additional Avios.  You need to call BA to do this because of the 2-4-1 voucher being involved.

Conclusion

As I wrote yesterday, there are still two weeks left to apply for the British Airways American Express cards before the sign-up bonuses drop.  If the idea of earning a companion voucher appeals, this is as good a time as any to apply.

The bonus on the free card is increased from 3,000 Avios to 9,000 Avios points.  £1,000 of spending within three months is required.  The application form is here.

The bonus on the Premium Plus is increased from 18,000 Avios to 25,000 Avios points.  £3,000 of spending within three months is required.  The application form is here.

If you have any further questions about the voucher, please ask them in the comments.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (221)

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  • drt247 says:

    Shortly before Christmas I earned my first 2-4-1 voucher and was confused about the amount of time I had to book my reward flight. I rang BA and asked the following question. Do I have to take the reward flight by the voucher expiry date or do I have to book the flight by the voucher expiry date? BA said I have to book not fly by the expiry date, Having read your article I now doubt BA’s advice what is your view please?

    • Alan says:

      Sounds like you got a poorly informed agent! With the 241 voucher you always have to book AND fly the outbound leg before expiry.

  • Liz says:

    Alan, can you use the Lloyds upgrade voucher to book one way from say SIN or HKG back to London and can you use it online when availability appears at midnight?

    • Alan says:

      Hi Liz – yes, you’re not restricted to UK departures like the 241. I had to book over the phone ad I was doing an open jaw, but I think it can handle connections up to Edinburgh – perhaps try a dummy booking on Avios.com first to check?

    • Axel Heyst says:

      I just booked HKG – EDI over phone, agent said I wouldnt have been able to book online. No extra avios or tax required on the LHR – EDI leg

      • Alan says:

        Interesting – it’s showing up fine on Avios.com, just searched for HKG-EDI and it’s showing connections via LHR. Haven’t got my next voucher yet though to try it with that – did you give it a go before calling them?

      • Liz says:

        I was going to try booking say SIN to LHR at midnight online then phone next day to add the EDI leg as that connection won’t be available till the next day. If I use 241 on the way out and Lloyds voucher on the way back I reckon I will save almost £200 each in taxes and only cost me an extra 3500 Avios and allow me to book at midnight – don’t have the voucher yet but not looking to book till may June time – just started looking at my various options – we are flexible on the say back but need to stop in SIN on the way out.

        • Axel Heyst says:

          Yes Alan I think I tried booking Lloyds voucher through website but it couldn’t process through to finish.

          Liz,there’s numerous daily flights HGK – UK so I don’t think redemption seats sell out that quick, so booking T300+ isn’t really something to worry about unlike the US

          I tend to use ME3 out to SIN then lloyds vouchers return to EDI, probably started the habit like you suggest to save on taxes.

          • Alan says:

            ah OK, interesting info – thanks AH

          • Liz says:

            Ok thanks AH – I assumed the HK flights would all disappear quickly too – will keep an eye on them over the next few weeks – might end up doing another stop on the way home in Hong Kong. We could book Cathay from BNE to HKG on the way back.

      • Liz says:

        How did you get the booking through to EDI if it was the following day? I remember last year booking over the phone for the long haul leg and then phoning back the next day to add the domestic connection when it came available so should be able to do that again – and not get charged for the change as it wasn’t available to book.

  • Ricky Lewis says:

    Hi there – I never knew that there was no APD flying out of Jersey / Inverness. I thought i’d try some combos flying from either of these cities to Tokyo or Hong Kong in business. Some messing around trying to get the search to work as I had to select yes to a stopover and select london, or the search would come up blank. The stopovers were 3-4 hours max each way but the taxes were still adding up to approx £1000. Am I doing something wrong here?

    • Alan says:

      You’ve still got all the horrible BA fees, fuel surcharges, etc. – it’s only the APD this would knock off (£146-150 depending on departure date)

      • Ricky Lewis says:

        Ohhh i see! Well that’s hardly the worth the effort of repositioning then 🙂 I guess going for first class is the best use for this redemption!

  • Joe hepton says:

    Is APD payable if beginning the trip in Gibraltar

    Thanks

    • mark2 says:

      Dunno, but 241 has to start in UK or Jersey so not Gibraltar although they did vote in the referendum for no apparent reason..

  • Scott_hb says:

    Are the on/off peak dates for 2018 likely to be released anytime soon? I’m planning on booking a 241 redemption for Feb 2018 but wanted to know if the dates I’ve got in mind will be on or off peak.

    • Anna says:

      You’re pretty much ok unless you’re a parent chained to the school holidays!

  • Anna says:

    There are two February half term weeks, one starts around the 12th, plus the following week. I don’t know if BA have cottoned on to both of them.

  • squall says:

    I’ve been trying the dummy booking (with avios or cash) from INV to SJO yesterday and the system returned an error ” we don’t fly this route” even though it finds it just fine starting from Edinburgh or direct from London. Any ideas why is this happening?

    • Alan says:

      Have you tried doing a multicity booking to force the connection in LHR? It might be the timings aren’t easily working?

  • Sue says:

    So I cancelled my BA PP card last August 9th. My fiancee (who has a BA PP card) will refer me to get another on the 9th Feb ( 6 calendar months after mine was cancelled) I miss out on the bonus Avios by 1 day!!! Grrrr. Does anyone know how often Amex run these bonus offers as it may well be worth waiting if not too long!? Amex CS did not have any idea! Thanks x

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