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Review: Virgin Atlantic Upper Class on the A330 fleet

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This is my review of Virgin Atlantic Upper Class on the A330 aircraft.

Coming back from New York 10 days ago, I was legged over – twice – by Virgin Atlantic.  I wasn’t amused.

I was booked on VS4, the 6.30pm departure from JFK to Heathrow.  When I went to check in, I saw a note on screen saying, in effect, ‘as we emailed you to say, your flight time has changed, we hope this is OK’.

Saying that ‘my flight time has changed’ was being a little disingenous.

Virgin had taken me off VS4 – which was still operating – and moved me to VS138, departing 90 minutes later at 8pm.

And, of course, I hadn’t had an email letting me know.

VS4 was totally full in Upper Class with no tickets for sale.  I have no idea why Virgin moved me, but I imagine it was because they felt they had a better chance of reselling a seat on VS4 rather than VS138.

The VS138 was an A330, you see, and Virgin’s A330 Upper Class is a dog.This is because it has the Upper Class layout above.  This has an exceptionally bad reputation and I had purposely avoided booking myself onto it.

This is not just my opinion.  The A330 Upper Class layout is such a dog that Virgin Atlantic has just started ripping out the cabins – just five years after they were installed – and replacing them with a less dense layout.  Business Traveller covers the story here.

What is currently 1 – 2 – 1 will become a similar 1 – 1 – 1 layout akin to what is on the new Boeing 787 aircraft.

Take a look at the photo below:

Virgin A330 leg room

I am 6′ 2′.  My feet are against the moulded rest at the bottom of the bed.  You will see that my knees are lifted into the air because it is impossible to get my legs straight.

There are two other things which that photograph does not make clear:

The aisle is exceptionally narrow – every person or trolley that comes down the aisle is likely to knock your feet

The seat is exceptionally narrow – I have a 38″ chest which is pretty slim, but even I found that there was virtually no space around me when I lay flat

The end result is that I had, by a very considerable margin, the most uncomfortable overnight business class flight I’ve taken in a long time.

The good news is that the process of ripping out these seats is now underway.  The new cabins look like this:

New Virgin A330 layout

By this time next year, there should be no reason to avoid the A330 Virgin Upper Class fleet.  For now, I recommend giving it a miss – but then, I tried to give it a miss and Virgin Atlantic chose to move me anyway …..

PS.  Here’s an interesting comparator.  The last time I was in the Virgin New York Clubhouse was when I was flying Singapore Airlines (review here).  Whilst I was in the lounge, I was paged to return to the desk.  Singapore Airlines was on the phone.  They wanted to move my seat back by 1 row so a couple could sit in adjacent seats.  They would only do this, however, if I gave my permission (which I did).  This time, Virgin moved my entire reservation to a different flight and didn’t even bother to tell me …..


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Comments (111)

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  • Stuart says:

    Flew out to NYC Thursday on VS1 A330 1-2-1 cabin. Check in, dedicated security channel and the Club lounge blows BA out of the water. On board crew and service excellent. Due back tonight again A330 1-2-1 cabin from JFK not worried in the slightest. Seat may not be the latest and greatest but to call it a dog is more than a little woof!

  • lee says:

    I just wanted to give people a heads up about Ihg Creation Credit card .

    I have an on going dispute with them and Have had it confirmed by there Head of complaints that To get your free night that you earned in the previous year you would need to pay for the card in the New year with no refund regardless if the card was used or it .

    They said they would fight any complaints to the Ombudsman .

    • Polly says:

      Might be worth phoning up again, ask for the ceo personal email, say you will take it all the way to the press. They might agree to refund if it’s agreed by the ceo, after all they won’t want to bothered by such things.. l am in a similar bind with the hsbc premier elite card rolling over to year 2.
      As rob has mentioned here, the OMB would take a dim view of that activity, esp if the card is unused. The deal is you have earned that night, whether you renew or not. They might just be calling your bluff.

      What do you think Rob?

      • Rob says:

        Creation told me last year that this was their strategy, so I am not surprised by this response.

        I am dubious about it standing up under Ombudsman scrutiny, frankly, for obvious reasons.

        • lee says:

          Just spoke with the Ombudsman and they said they could not take this on.

          • Liz says:

            Surely the T&Cs don’t say the certificate is awarded on the anniversary AND subject to the paying the 2nd year fee!

          • Rob says:

            They don’t, indeed …..

          • Genghis says:

            Did they say why? Have you issued a formal complaint and waited the necessary time (8 weeks) / been issued with a final written response?

        • Mr Dee says:

          It sounds like they want to force people to renew which is rather desperate just to get the annual fee at the expense of annoying customers and making many cancel the year after.

          • Andrew says:

            I do wonder if the fee is £99 to avoid breaching the £100 Section 75 threshold for they as a supplier failing to meet their contractual obligtations…

          • the real harry1 says:

            if it were £100, are you going to get them to refund you and charge themselves for the cheating? 🙂

  • lee says:

    FCA will do nothing also as spoke with them only option is legal action .

    Best option is to try to put pressure On IHG to get creation to Change the terms

    • Rob says:

      If it is a breach of the T&C then I doubt they have any choice but to take it on.

    • Andrew says:

      Would you not be better speaking to FOS rather than the FCA?

      The FCA don’t deal with individual complaints, the FOS do.

  • mike says:

    OT – BA 50% Avios bonus

    Looks like BA is desperate for cash after their recent IT meltdown!!!!

  • Jonathan says:

    How does IHG view this ridiculous stance Rob as ultimately it will hurt their brand?

    • Rob says:

      Truth is, in the world of 0.3% interchange fees, you need to make your money where you can.

      If you are a long term holder of this card, this rule doesn’t really hit you – the longer you have it, the less it matters. Over 5 years and 5 vouchers you would pay 6 fees etc.

      • Gareth says:

        Would people recommend complaining before the end of the year or waiting until paid the fee?

        • Genghis says:

          So let’s think about this. Fee is due payable end of month 13? We don’t know how fast the voucher will post but if it’s during month 13 you can then cancel?

          I’m now planning on keeping it for Mrs G and I as we spend 2 x £10k on non Amex easily.

  • Nathan says:

    Thought I would share my experiences for Virgin.
    Twice they have cancelled / changed my flights without giving me any notice. Despite them saying they have sent an email, which i never received.
    One instance to NYC, the changed my flight by 4 hours. I only noticed by looking at my virgin app.(Which i know have to constantly monitor)
    Second time they cancelled my flight to the Caribbean and moved me to the flight the day after. Resulting in me losing one night of a prepaid hotel.
    Both instance were booked using miles. Seems they are happy to chop and change redemption passengers in favor of cash payers.
    Not surprisingly customer services were unhelpful.

    • Anna says:

      They must be adopting the BA model!

      • Catalan says:

        Actually all major airlines do this. Revenue passenger being more valuable than redemption ticketed passengers. The belief that BA are the only culprits came about mainly due to the recent mis-treatment received by one of our HfP readers traveling to the Maldives.

    • Prins Polo says:

      Exactly the same experience here. They kept moving my flight to NYC to the extent that I finally gave up, cancelled it, and flew AA.

  • Andy says:

    VS did exactly the same, on exactly the same flight from JFK a few months back, but moved to the last flight of the day. Unfortunately not the first time it has happened, and nor I fear, will be the last.

    They then had the brass neck to offer a move back to the original flight – for a fare difference and change fee, or to stay on the flight that had been moved to, for free. That was as VS Gold too!

    No notification, just noticed by chance when checking the booking. Their customer service is atrocious.

  • Whiskerxx says:

    No point in emailing Solomons – he’s stood down. Keith Barr is his replacement

    • lee says:

      not till august

      • Whiskerxx says:

        He steps down from the CEO role on 30th June and retires at the end of August.
        Either way he is not going to be interested in this!!

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