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There are two ongoing bonus sagas in the travel credit card world at the moment – one relating to the Creation IHG Rewards Club Premium card and one relating to the HSBC Premier World Elite card.

Both have the same core problem:

The cards promise a year-end bonus, but the issuer insists that you pay the non-refundable fee for the next card year before you can get the bonus you are due from Year 1.

IHG Rewards Club Premium

…. which I am legally obliged to tell you has a representative APR of 41.5% variable including the £99 fee based on a notional £1200 credit limit.

It is becoming clear – the card is just one year old, so this is a new problem – that Creation will not credit your free night voucher for spending £10,000 until after you have renewed.

I am relatively sanguine about the IHG card, because I think most people WILL want to keep it.  All you are paying is £99, and this gets you:

on-going IHG Rewards Club Platinum status which comes with some decent benefits

a free night voucher for spending £10,000 (worth £250+ if spend wisely)

an excellent earnings rate of 2 points (worth about 0.8p – 1p) per £1 

and these points count towards status if you are going for top tier Spire Elite

All of this, to my mind, makes the IHG Rewards Club Premium Mastercard an excellent product and one worth keeping.

However, if you are looking to cancel but still want your free night voucher, the only course of action seems to be:

stop using the card (you must not make a transaction after the card fee has been charged)

wait for your free night voucher to show in your IHG Rewards Club account

cancel the card and ask for a refund

Do not refuse to pay the final bill containing the £99 fee as this may impact your credit report.  Creation will probably not agree to this, so you may end up taking your complaint to the Financial Services Ombudsman.  

At the moment, telephone conversations imply that the Ombudsman does not seen keen to get involved but, as this is a contractual issue, I don’t think they have a choice when faced with a claim in writing.

HSBC Premier World Elite credit card

HSBC Premier World Elite

…. which I am legally obliged to tell you has a representative APR of 59.3% variable including the £195 fee based on a notional £1200 credit limit.

When you take out the HSBC Premier World Elite card, you receive 40,000 HSBC points after spending £2,000 in three months and a further 40,000 HSBC points (worth 20,000 Avios) when you spend £12,000 in 12 months.  The bonus is even higher at the moment due to a short term promotion.

This is a more contentious problem for three reasons:

For many people, there is NO good reason to keep this card after the first year.  You need to pay a £195 fee but there is no spending bonus.  You will continue to keep the card benefits, such as free airport lounge access, but this may not justify £195.

The published terms and conditions for the card are wrong.  As I discussed in this article, it states that you receive the second batch of 40,000 points within 60 days of spending the £12,000:

3. If you meet the requirements for this offer as described above, we will award 40,000 Premier Reward Points to your HSBC Premier World Elite Mastercard Credit Card within 60 days from point of qualification

HSBC claims this is an error and it was meant to say that you will receive the second batch of 40,000 points within 60 days of your card renewal date.

A lot of people DID receive the second batch of 40,000 points when they rang up HSBC and complained.  The bank has now seems to have taken a firm position that you are not getting the points until after the first year is up.

There is some good news here, however.

Based on correspondence with a HFP reader, HSBC will now give you 10,000 bonus points as compensation for the ‘error’ in their terms and conditions if you have already passed the £12,000 spend target and ring to ask where your points have got to.

More importantly, they have agreed that – once you have paid the £195 and received your second batch of 40,000 points – you can call them, downgrade to the free Premier credit card and receive a refund of your £195.

To be honest, I still think that the Ombudsman would tell HSBC to take a running jump over its refusal to credit the points within 60 days, since they are clearly – and admitting it – breaking their own published terms and conditions over when you receive the bonus.

On the other hand, if you can receive an extra 10,000 bonus points – worth 5,000 Avios points – for your trouble then it might be worth holding on and going through the process of getting your £195 refunded.


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Comments (98)

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  • MrZee says:

    If you cancel the HSHC card and reapply after 6 months can you get the bonus points again or is it non-churnable?

  • George says:

    I called to cancel my HSBC card about 2 weeks before the end of the first year. They manually added the Bonus points on the spot and sent out a for m to downgrade my card to the free one. No issues here (that was about 3 weeks ago). The free Mastercard still gives you access to lounges for £15 a pop.

  • Talay says:

    When will the credit card clowns realise that if they were to introduce a really top class product which was accepted everywhere then they could probably charge £1000 a year for it and no-one would look at another card.

    • Genghis says:

      What’s your proposal?

      • Talay says:

        Start with something like Amex Plat and add a Visa / Mastercard element with decent earning and an inclusive 241 aka the BAPP Amex.

        Take the best of the hotel free night offers for significant spend, possibly you can order which offer comes next, say per £10k spend.

        • Ronster says:

          Hi everyone

          I would expand this to at least:-

          BA Silver/Sapphire status built in with 2-4-1 available right away across Oneworld.

          Ronster

          • mark2 says:

            + weekly draw for family first class return ticket to the destination of your choice, on the airline of your choice.

          • the realharry1 says:

            + a Filipino maid comes round once a week to iron your shirts

  • Kathy says:

    Oh well, I was unlikely to hit £10k spend on the IHG card anyway – not when I also have incentives to spend that much on the Lloyd’s Avios and Virgin card. Will cancel it rather than renew.

    • Genghis says:

      Did you get the 40k bonus or 20k? The maths only really works if you can hit the £10k spend.

      • Kathy says:

        I *should* be getting the 40k. It just about works for me as it should mean I get a night in a Sydney hotel for effectively half price, since it seems to be about £200 a night the dates I’m looking at.

  • Sandgrounder says:

    Is the free night really a year one bonus, or a year two on renewal bonus, if you spent 10k the year before? I will study the Ts&Cs when I get home I think!

    • Genghis says:

      I remember reading them recently and it was based on past performance of spending £10k, not future performance of card renewal.

    • Brian says:

      It’s based on the first year spend, very clear. Nowhere does it mention you have to give them £198 to get the voucher.

  • Alex W says:

    What about the Virgin Black card – the premium economy upgrade vouchers only post at the end of the year. I don’t want to renew, so can I cancel and get a refund of the second years fee after I have received the vouchers?

    • roberto says:

      Yes you can.. ensure you have a zero balance and the the card is not used after the anniversary. The voucher should post once your card is 365 or 366 days old. You can phone and cancel at that point even if the the has been applied and it will be refunded.

      Other have cancelled much earlier than the anniversary ( month 9 ) and still got the vouchers having spent the required amount.

      I cancelled mine on day 366 as i was flying on day 365. No issues …

  • Trev says:

    Does anyone know:
    – what happens to your HSBC reward points if you cancel the card?
    – does the standard HSBC card earn rewards?
    I can always transfer my rewards out before I close, but like Amex MR, I like the flexibility of leaving them until I need them.

  • Doug says:

    Tried claiming the “anniversary bonus” with HSBC by calling and online messaging, but they wouldn’t do a thing. Got my 10k, so a bit happy with that, but still feels wrong. Have to do something like 4 round trips with my partner a year using the lounge on both ends to justify the cost of the card.

    • James says:

      @Doug and all, is the 10k points meant to be a ’10k now’ OR ’20k at renewal’ trade? Or is it 10k extra meaning 30k at renewal?

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