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No card bonus unless you pay for Year 2? Updates on Creation / IHG and HSBC World Elite

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There are two ongoing bonus sagas in the travel credit card world at the moment – one relating to the Creation IHG Rewards Club Premium card and one relating to the HSBC Premier World Elite card.

Both have the same core problem:

The cards promise a year-end bonus, but the issuer insists that you pay the non-refundable fee for the next card year before you can get the bonus you are due from Year 1.

IHG Rewards Club Premium

…. which I am legally obliged to tell you has a representative APR of 41.5% variable including the £99 fee based on a notional £1200 credit limit.

It is becoming clear – the card is just one year old, so this is a new problem – that Creation will not credit your free night voucher for spending £10,000 until after you have renewed.

I am relatively sanguine about the IHG card, because I think most people WILL want to keep it.  All you are paying is £99, and this gets you:

on-going IHG Rewards Club Platinum status which comes with some decent benefits

a free night voucher for spending £10,000 (worth £250+ if spend wisely)

an excellent earnings rate of 2 points (worth about 0.8p – 1p) per £1 

and these points count towards status if you are going for top tier Spire Elite

All of this, to my mind, makes the IHG Rewards Club Premium Mastercard an excellent product and one worth keeping.

However, if you are looking to cancel but still want your free night voucher, the only course of action seems to be:

stop using the card (you must not make a transaction after the card fee has been charged)

wait for your free night voucher to show in your IHG Rewards Club account

cancel the card and ask for a refund

Do not refuse to pay the final bill containing the £99 fee as this may impact your credit report.  Creation will probably not agree to this, so you may end up taking your complaint to the Financial Services Ombudsman.  

At the moment, telephone conversations imply that the Ombudsman does not seen keen to get involved but, as this is a contractual issue, I don’t think they have a choice when faced with a claim in writing.

HSBC Premier World Elite credit card

HSBC Premier World Elite

…. which I am legally obliged to tell you has a representative APR of 59.3% variable including the £195 fee based on a notional £1200 credit limit.

When you take out the HSBC Premier World Elite card, you receive 40,000 HSBC points after spending £2,000 in three months and a further 40,000 HSBC points (worth 20,000 Avios) when you spend £12,000 in 12 months.  The bonus is even higher at the moment due to a short term promotion.

This is a more contentious problem for three reasons:

For many people, there is NO good reason to keep this card after the first year.  You need to pay a £195 fee but there is no spending bonus.  You will continue to keep the card benefits, such as free airport lounge access, but this may not justify £195.

The published terms and conditions for the card are wrong.  As I discussed in this article, it states that you receive the second batch of 40,000 points within 60 days of spending the £12,000:

3. If you meet the requirements for this offer as described above, we will award 40,000 Premier Reward Points to your HSBC Premier World Elite Mastercard Credit Card within 60 days from point of qualification

HSBC claims this is an error and it was meant to say that you will receive the second batch of 40,000 points within 60 days of your card renewal date.

A lot of people DID receive the second batch of 40,000 points when they rang up HSBC and complained.  The bank has now seems to have taken a firm position that you are not getting the points until after the first year is up.

There is some good news here, however.

Based on correspondence with a HFP reader, HSBC will now give you 10,000 bonus points as compensation for the ‘error’ in their terms and conditions if you have already passed the £12,000 spend target and ring to ask where your points have got to.

More importantly, they have agreed that – once you have paid the £195 and received your second batch of 40,000 points – you can call them, downgrade to the free Premier credit card and receive a refund of your £195.

To be honest, I still think that the Ombudsman would tell HSBC to take a running jump over its refusal to credit the points within 60 days, since they are clearly – and admitting it – breaking their own published terms and conditions over when you receive the bonus.

On the other hand, if you can receive an extra 10,000 bonus points – worth 5,000 Avios points – for your trouble then it might be worth holding on and going through the process of getting your £195 refunded.


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Comments (98)

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  • Chewbacca says:

    Am I the only one who thinks the process for getting HSBC Premier card was the most over the top credit card application ever? I think I must have been on the phone for at least 45 minutes and spoke to 2 different people… I was approved then the letter they said they’d send out never turned up. When I requested again, they sent it and when I sent it back they wrote me a letter asking them to call as they said my signature on the letter returned didn’t match…. got it in the end… Thinking it might be worth keeping for those periods when I don’t have Amex Platinum to access lounges…

    • James says:

      @Chewbacca, you got off lightly, for me it was a 2 hour call long distance from China, it always seemed like it was just about finished and then a new problem arose. Never saw the bill (company phone) but all in a pretty terrible experience.

      • Polly says:

        A two hour interview for me, even tho l already had an account Profile! Unbelievable…am currently dropping down to premier, but no offer of 10k, will ask them when l next speak to them…forms take an age to process too…

    • Alan says:

      Amex ICC beat it for me – took a couple of months and a myriad of paperwork, at least I got some extra MR points for the hassle 😉

  • Brian says:

    So phoned up Creation and no further forward. Two managers gave two completely different answers.

    They said they will try to check how it all works in practice and call me back tomorrow.

    How incompetent does a company have to be to not understand its own rules.

    • Gareth says:

      From past experience….. they will not call you back

      • Genghis says:

        +1. I called them up on a Saturday when I was able to see the statements of both me and another person. I was told I would get a call back from the security team on the Monday. This did not materialise.

  • George says:

    What should I get to replace my supercard, the Lloyds card or the Halifax clarity?

  • D.C. says:

    On the question of Virgin Flying Club Miles I received mine before my monthly DDM got off the ground. Great service but I know it is a bit hit and miss.
    On the issue of IHG premium credit card my anniversary is looming (next week) and I have been assured that I will receive my free night e voucher even though I have cancelled my card. As Genghis says, this is a reward for the year in question, not subsequent year, so anything other than receiving the free night voucher would be unacceptable.

    • Brian says:

      Today the first person told me that. Said i could cancel now and still get the voucher as hit the £10k.

      Then second person totally contradicted that by saying the account had to remain open until voucher issued.

      Creation are a Shambles. Ihg really should step in and help sort this ambiguity, and possible illegality, out but won’t hold my breath.

      • Genghis says:

        I look forward to hearing how it pans out. So as long as you hit the £10k spend, it’s a great card IMO. I’m now going to keep mine and Mrs G’s running.

  • Simon says:

    Both my wife and I are soon going to hit the 1 year mark on our HSBC Premier World Elite cards. It’s given a load of points over the year; thanks HfP.

    Now deciding whether to keep one card and get a sister for it. Or are there any other non-amex cards out there that give you 1 avios per £1 spent?

  • Drolma-la says:

    This reminded me that we’ve been meaning to apply for the IHG MasterCard. When we submitted the application, however, we got a message saying “An error has occurred.” What’s up with that?

  • the_real_a says:

    I wouldn’t be confident with an FSA complaint – i know 2 people who took the IHG Barclaycard free night fiasco to them after receiving zero compensation through the Barclaycard complaints process. The FSA sided with Barclaycard as it was in the contract that they could cancel the card at any time. They got nothing for £5k and £9k spend respectively.

    • Andrew says:

      Still worth doing.

      Every complaint that reaches the FoS is chargeable to the company involved – even if you don’t get what you want, a firm may be instructed to review its sales process or procedures if there appears to be confusion.

  • Marknewstart says:

    If you renew do you get any points?

    • Alan says:

      Not on the IHG card. Just another voucher each year when you spend over £10k plus the usual earning rate.

    • Rob says:

      Not for either card, but the IHG card continues to offer 1 free night voucher per year.

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