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Bits: BA’s London City NYC gate lounge closes, Virgin’s CEO on cost cutting, HfP IT help wanted

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News in brief:

British Airways closes the BA1 gate lounge at London City

If you have ever taken the British Airways ‘all business class’ A318 flight from London City Airport to New York JFK, with a refuelling and passport control stop at Shannon on the way out, you will know that there was never a proper lounge.

Instead, British Airways set up a DIY lounge at the gate it used.  There were 32 seats for 32 passengers and a ‘help yourself’ table of food and drink.  It wasn’t the classiest thing you’ve ever seen and I never liked it but it had its fans.

As of last week, the gate lounge has gone.  It seems this is one of only a handful of gates at London City that can handle the new Bombardier CS100 aircraft being introduced by SWISS, and SWISS needed all of the space.

Instead ….

“Before your departure from London City you are invited to enjoy a complimentary pre-flight meal and drink at Pilots Restaurant. The restaurant is conveniently located in the main terminal, just after security on the left hand-side. On arrival at the restaurant please show your boarding pass to the Welcome Host, who will then show you to your table.”

I’ve never eaten at Pilots, but I get a feeling it is – overall – a better experience than the gate lounge.  I wouldn’t see this as another BA cost cutting exercise.

Overall, it is difficult to see much of a future for the London City – New York service.  One of the two daily flights was chopped last year.  The expansion of Global Entry means that regular travellers to the US no longer need to queue at immigration, so the time saving from clearing immigration in Shannon is no longer important.  As London City becomes more crowded and with the new First Wing now open at Heathrow Terminal 5, the market may be swinging back westwards.

And that is before you factor in Crossrail, which will take you from Canary Wharf to Heathrow in just 39 minutes from the end of 2019 (end of 2018 if you are happy to change at Paddington to the Heathrow Express) ……

British Airways City Airport A318

Virgin Atlantic’s CEO on cost cutting

Last Monday I saw Alex Cruz speakThis Monday, I went up to Manchester to see Craig Kreeger, the Virgin Atlantic CEO, give a talk.

He had some interesting things to say which I might summarise in another article.  Here is one key point.  A member of the audience asked him what he had done to turn Virgin Atlantic around, after some years of losses, when he joined in 2013.

“Airline Management 101”, he said, “is to go for the easy stuff.  Swap the £10 bottle of wine in Upper Class for a £6 bottle.  No-one picks an airline just for the wine.  Swap the napkin for a thinner one.”

“I did none of that.”  “You do this once, you can get away with it.  If you do it 20 times, you take away the reasons that people choose the airline in the first place.”  All of Kreeger’s focus was on back office cuts, as well as trimming unprofitable routes.  Spending which impacted the customer experience was protected.

He even stressed what I have stressed on here before.  When you have a $200m long-haul aircraft which requires $100,000 of fuel for every trip, cutting your wine bill by £50 per flight (or taking the flowers out of the toilets) is stupid and counter productive.

Something I should remember to mention next time I bump into Alex ….. although to give him credit – given his speech last week – I think he may have got the message.

HfP IT help

Long-term readers will know that the site hasn’t had a full refresh for five years, nor indeed has it had any change in hosting despite a big growth in readership.  The cracks are starting to show as you may have seen recently.

I would like to find a freelance IT person who would like to project manage some changes.  This person does not necessarily need to do the work but would oversee it.  Anika and I simply do not have enough hours in the day to do this ourselves.

This is what we will need doing:

contracting and overseeing (or doing yourself) the development of a custom-built WordPress theme to specifications we will provide – potentially sticking with the Genesis Framework

contracting and overseeing (or doing yourself) some work on the existing WordPress database which has some structural issues

overseeing a server move

overseeing some standard cloud-based office IT

If this is what you do for a living, drop me an email at rob at headforpoints.com together with your rates and some examples of what you’ve done.  My experience is that getting readers to help out with projects results in better quality work than picking someone who does not understand what we are trying to achieve.

I foresee it taking a handful of hours a week over a couple of months, depending on how much you outsource.  The first two points listed above are the key ones.   You don’t need to be based in London but we will want to meet you here on a regular basis.

Comments (156)

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  • Etk says:

    Interesting that he says that about the wine – that’s exactly what they have done. In the four years or so that I’ve been flying virgin regularly again, the wine quality has plummeted.

    • Gerald says:

      Stop whining….

    • VS says:

      I think the wine selection is about the right level for business travel – i.e. the quality of a £12 bottle from Waitrose.

      The on-board cocktails are a huge let down by comparison with the lounge, however. They taste powdered.

      • Michael Jennings says:

        Drinking really good wine at 38,000 feet is a waste, anyway. The reduced air pressure spoils the taste. They really should keep the good stuff for the lounges.

  • Martin says:

    Well, I’m hoping BA1 runs till April as I fly out in it at Easter.

    • roberto says:

      I met a Ba employee on holiday last month who confirmed the route is getting axed next year. No firm dates but its been agreed at HO.

      • Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

        December ’18 would tie in with the Crossrail launch at CW.

  • the real harry1 says:

    Skift: You’re joining the Delta/AirFrance/KLM joint venture, or JV. How will it affect passengers?

    Kreeger: The way we think about the JV is about taking more passengers to more places. That sounds trite, so I’ll be more specific. I think for our British customers the biggest upside is a much better frequent flyer proposition. If you’re here in the UK, you’ll be able to earn and use Flying Club miles not just on Delta flights and Virgin Atlantic flights, but on Air France and KLM — giving access to a full range of places where our customers might want to go on holiday but they typically wouldn’t have been able to use their miles to do that.
    https://skift.com/2017/09/13/virgin-atlantics-ceo-speaks-on-loyalty-innovation-and-low-cost-competition/

    • the real harry1 says:

      what’s the deadline for converting Tesco—>Virgin Flying Club and getting the 20% bonus?

      • Genghis says:

        “This summer, shopping with Tesco is even more rewarding, as you can enjoy a 20% bonus for turning your Clubcard vouchers into Flying Club miles between 1 November 2017 and 13 December 2017”

        Not crystal as to whether this is push the button or receive but only takes a day anyway as you know.

    • Oh! Matron! says:

      I think I just wet myself with Glee!

      Ironically, it should also make getting gold easier. I’m sure there will be a sweet spot or two in the KLM / AF network

      • the real harry1 says:

        yep it’s going to be a good move in terms of flexible options – I checked out current points requirements for AF/ KLM European redemptions a while ago and whilst they are significantly more expensive than BA/ RFS both in terms of points and fees, they are not extortionate (though compare badly to HBOs booked some time out, which is not like-for-like but still, a flight possibility)

        but for booking flights at shortish notice, it’s going to be helpful in terms of more options, from my closest decent airport (Bristol) there are quite a few flights daily with 1 connection (to our place in the sun) – and even with a connection, the door-to-door flight time compared OK vs going from LHR (because for us it’s 4 hrs to Heathrow)

        you never know, they might boost the loyalty scheme in a major way by devising some system closer to RFS for European flights

  • Anna says:

    Will BA1 move to Heathrow or just be axed all together? I was really hoping to fly on it one day!

    • Scott says:

      Can’t see it doing anything apart from being put on another route, probably with some conversion.
      Whilst it would be nice to be able to board a 32 seat business plane direct from T5A (although I assume it would require a bus gate rather than being connected to an airbridge), don’t think it would be viable and would use a slot that would make more £££.

      It’s also possible that if it could fly direct to JFK from LHR, people might favour that over a forward facing seated plane being shared with “steerage” passengers 😉

      There’s also the fact of all the recent technical issues which would probably make it little more reliable than some of those Norwegian LGW-JFK flights that always seem to have issues and no backup planes.

      • Lumma says:

        Why would it need a bus gate at Heathrow? Surely it would be the same as boarding anything else in the a320 family?

      • Barry cutters says:

        I don’t think an a318 would require a bus gate. It could be accessed by a bridge like the rest of the a320 family

      • Michael Jennings says:

        Honestly, I think if BA are going to use up valuable slots at both Heathrow and JFK, an A318 is just too small.

  • Justin says:

    One of my ‘goals’ was always to try the BA1 service to JFK, despite the lack of lounge and the full CW service – more for the fact that it’s City Aiport, the pseudo private jet experience and the Shannon preclearence. I do hope that with the new LCY upgrades coming along to route is preserved and the ‘lounge’ reinstated – why won’t BA pay for the Private Jet Centre First Class Lounge? As much as I love LCY I have always been disappointed with the offering. My last meal there was sent back twice so I ended up with a coffee and muffin from Nero on the way to the gate!

  • Pierre says:

    OT- Re booking redemption flights at T-355. I am thinking of booking at midnight when the flights are released. However, I have a voucher which we would like to use, so will need to call up Avios Customer Services. Can anyone confirm if I cancel the original bookings just before making the call the next morning, that the seats will drop back into the pool of available redemption flights?

    • Genghis says:

      Is this a Lloyds upgrade voucher? I’ve done it with a 241 all over the phone with BA CS. They warned flights might not go back into reward inventory but they did.

      • Pierre says:

        Yes, a Lloyds upgrade voucher. I’m going to give it a go, and hold fingers crossed, since otherwise the seats have often already gone by morning.

    • Rob says:

      No, not guaranteed at all. The BA computer has a quick think and if cash sales look good it may decide to keep them.

      You can book a 241 one way outbound and call later to add on a return though.

      • GRIMZ says:

        Avios.com have held my outbounds untill the returns are available using the upgrade voucher. Im just hoping my returns don’t disappear before they are open in the morning.

      • Nick says:

        That’s sort of true. BA guarantees the 2+4 seats until 45 days before departure (when they can be closed), so the answer to this depends how many have been ‘sold’. If only 2 in J, then they will automatically be released again. If (say) 4 were originally released then they might not be, it depends as you say on booking profiles. Unfortunately the customer has no way of finding out which of these is the case… and there’s always a (small) chance that another customer or agent snaps them up in the few moments between release and re-booking. But if you got them at -355 and there’s no more available immediately afterwards, it’s a safe(ish) bet it’ll work.

    • Hugh says:

      I made a booking last year for a first class flight LHR-SIN and forgot to apply my 241 voucher!!!! I rang up next day and the really helpful guy at the call centre explained he would have to cancel the booking and he was 95% sure it would drop back into the pool but that there was then a slim chance that someone else might grab it before he was able to. There was then a nervous 90 seconds whilst he cancelled it and waited to see if it became available again, which fortunately it did!

      So I think my advice is don’t cancel it yourself before you call, let call centre do it as that will reduce the time it’s showing as available. But I don’t think it’s 100% guaranteed to become available again.

      Good luck!

    • Tracey says:

      Not necessarily is the answer and it really isn’t safe to rely on them dropping back in. If you can’t use the voucher online eg the Amex 2-4-1, then find a BA office overseas that is open.

      • Genghis says:

        Trouble is the Lloyds voucher has to be used through avios.com. Their call centres only open at 7am…

    • Kathy says:

      It didn’t work for me when I tried it one time – they warn you it might not on the phone.

    • Kathy says:

      If you have enough Avios to book both the flights without using the voucher, you can get the call centre to retroactively apply the voucher to the bookings. Basically all they do is remove the voucher from your account and manually refund you the Avios and any taxes you’re owed by changing from 2 one-ways to a return.

      Obviously that only works if you have enough Avios to book both flights at full price.

      • Pierre says:

        That is a great suggestion! Thanks Kathy, I will try that, fingers crossed I get the same result.

      • Pierre says:

        I’m just reporting back here, in case anyone reads this thread later, for more anecdotal evidence… I booked 2x 1-way flights (Johannesburg to London) at midnight T-355, using only the miles in our Avios account. Then I called up Avios Customer Service at 8am to ask them to apply the Lloyds Upgrade Voucher (this had to be booked over the phone since the Avios site does not let you book 1-way flights using the voucher).
        However, I also decided to change the flight to start in Cape Town rather than Johannesburg.
        Avios CS did exactly as Kathy indicated, simply manually refunding the Avios and removing the voucher from our account, while at the same time booking the new flights for me.
        The original Jhb-Lon flights dropped back into the pool for available redemptions pretty much straight away.

  • John says:

    I guess it’s in the name – Virgin *Atlantic* wants to be primarily a TATL airline. As I don’t fly TATL then cutting unprofitable routes etc and the closer integration with DL makes them even more unattractive to me. And they don’t have a short-haul network, whereas BA goes where I want to and for long-haul there are lots of oneworld alternatives if I get fed up of Cruzification.

    10 years ago I flew VS HKG-SYD in Y because it was HK$250 cheaper than QF and CX. VS had already cut back to a one-meal service whereas CX and QF still had 2 proper meals, which put me off flying them again.

  • IslandDweller says:

    Crossrail / Elizabeth Line. You’re not getting the opening sequence correct. Services via Canary Wharf WILL start in December 2018 but will only run as far as Paddington. There will NOT be through services to Heathrow until December 2019.
    For the first year to get to Heathrow (or any western station) you’ll need to change trains from Paddington (low level EL station) to Paddington (existing surface level station),

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