Maximise your Avios, air miles and hotel points

Are you still having issues with your Lloyds Avios Rewards Amex after the November hack?

Links on Head for Points may support the site by paying a commission.  See here for all partner links.

In November, Lloyds suffered a very serious fraud issue on the American Express cards issued as part of the Lloyds Avios Rewards MasterCard and Amex double packWe first highlighted it on HfP and it was picked up by a lot of the national press including the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail.

A large number of fake cards – apparently with functioning signature strips – suddenly started being used across the US.  Someone had got hold of enough Amex card data to be able to physically create fake cards, presumably with some sort of fake card design in order to fool shop assistants.

The response from Lloyds was to block all of the affected American Express cards from working in the US and to re-issue them with new numbers.

A reader got in touch last week with an update on his situation.  Despite having got a new Amex card with a new number, Lloyds was still blocking it in the US.  This was a major problem for the reader who makes a lot of $ purchases for his small business using the card.

Before Lloyds actually admitted to this, in a later separate telephone call, he was fed a stack of nonsense from the Lloyds call centre:

  • “I was told (repeatedly) that it was the fault of the retailer as they were blocking it and Lloyds couldn’t do anything because it wasn’t them blocking it
  • I escalated to a manager but they just told me the same thing over and over and would not accept it was the fault of Lloyds and suggested I contact the websites about it.
  • When I told them it is happening on multiple US websites (I buy a lot of service for my business), I was told I had to speak to each of them individually as they may be blocking all American Express cards
  • I explained that my Amex-issued Amex cards worked fine, as did my Lloyds Mastercard and it was happening on ALL US websites so it must be related to my Lloyds Amex but they wouldn’t accept this at all
  • I was told this wasn’t affecting any other Lloyds cardholders “or they would have known about it”
  • I was told repeatedly and categorically that it wasn’t related to the recent “issue” in the US
  • I asked to make a complaint but was told this wasn’t possible as it wasn’t the fault of Lloyds and therefore all I could was offer my feedback”

Getting Lloyds to finally admit in a follow-up call that they were still blocking his new card was not the end of the matter, unfortunately.

His new Amex card is not earning any Avios.

Now, a small but significant percentage of Lloyds Avios Rewards credit cards do not earn Avios points.  No-one seems to have got to the bottom of this.  We first wrote about it here.  Lloyds promises to fix it for you in six months but in reality even that is beyond them.  They are at least now paying cash compensation to people impacted.

What is odd here is that the reader was earning Avios, but it was only when his Amex was reissued that he dropped into the minority who do not receive points.  It is all very odd.

Do let me know if you are still having issues with your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card following the November hack.


Want to earn more points from credit cards? – April 2024 update

If you are looking to apply for a new credit card, here are our top recommendations based on the current sign-up bonuses.

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

You can see our full directory of all UK cards which earn airline or hotel points here. Here are the best of the other deals currently available.

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

15,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Earning miles and points from small business cards

If you are a sole trader or run a small company, you may also want to check out these offers:

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

For a non-American Express option, we also recommend the Barclaycard Select Cashback card for sole traders and small businesses. It is FREE and you receive 1% cashback on your spending.

Barclaycard Select Cashback Business Credit Card

1% cashback uncapped* on all your business spending (T&C apply) Read our full review

Comments (55)

This article is closed to new comments. Feel free to ask your question in the HfP forums.

  • The Original Nick says:

    My Amex Card was fraudulently used in the US and was blocked on the 2nd attempt.. I received a SMS explaining what had happened so I called Lloyds. They removed the transaction and sent me a new card. I’m wondering if people weren’t notified of fraudulent transactions because they have marketing emails, sms, etc etc blocked. Just a thought.

  • Peter says:

    I got a Lloyd’s Avios set of cards in May 2017. Contacted Lloyd’s in August as no Avios posted. I was told 6 months to fix and given £170 and told I can contact them any time to get Avios added manually. Got a letter last week to say will be unable to fix within 6 months and given another £150 cheque.

    I also suffered with AMEX hack ????

    • Mikeact says:

      I suffered miniscule amounts last November, when, while having breakfast at home, Lloyds called me to ask if I had had breakfast that morning in McDonald’s!…obviously not,and all sorted.
      On Christmas eve, in the post was a very welcome cheque, but for what I have no idea. The accompanying letter basically says all will be sorted by the end of April. (And my card works fine, and Avios posted monthly. )

  • Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

    Did anyone ever look into a misuse of data tort from the original incident? Vidal-Hall left the whole ‘distress’ thing unresolved but I would have thought some enterprising person would have fancied a crack given the fraud angle.

  • xcalx says:

    Lloyds Amex rejected in the US in November, no issues since I got home and I have had no contact from Lloyds.

  • Sussex bantam says:

    I’ve had no problem since card was reissued but did get a random £150 from them a few days ago. I’m taking it as a payment for their likely future incompetence…

  • Will says:

    My amex card was blocked for a couple of weeks and then miraculously started working again with no prompt from me. My cards weren’t re-issued.

  • Alex W says:

    Had the cards nearly a year now and still no Avios. Had one round of compo, I’m putting off claiming more compo for now as I don’t need the Avios or voucher yet.

    • mark2 says:

      If I were you I would claim again. That will probably get a bigger total compensation; the Avios are usually pretty irrelevant in comparison. My wife has had £750 compensation over about 5,000 Avios for overseas spending.

    • Liz says:

      Ask for the pts to be manually transferred because when they do fix it you will get all the pts again. I got around 30k extra when mine was fixed a couple of weeks ago.

      • Martin says:

        Same here, points were manually posted for me and then credited again when linked.
        It was avios themselves that merged the accounts and sorted the issue when I rang them, as Lloyds had opened a second account.
        So as far as Lloyds are concerned the issue isn’t fixed, some year after I started the complaint and the compo regularly rolls in.

  • John says:

    Got cards in October, no problems on the fraud side of things, but no Avios yet. Will begin complaining in January.

This article is closed to new comments. Feel free to ask your question in the HfP forums.

The UK's biggest frequent flyer website uses cookies, which you can block via your browser settings. Continuing implies your consent to this policy. Our privacy policy is here.