Pay just £480 for British Airways World Traveller Plus from Scandinavia to the US

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• Peter says:

  9 Feb9 February 05:13

  When upgrading the LH sectors of these flights would you still be offered lounge access on the SH sectors?

  • JamesB says:

    9 Feb9 February 07:00

    Yes, because you are connecting to a one world business class flight on the same day.

  • Rob says:

    9 Feb9 February 08:39

    Yes

• Rich says:

  9 Feb9 February 06:57

  Help! Why is it more avoid to upgrade off peak than peak, what am I missing?

  • Rich says:

    9 Feb9 February 06:57

    Avios – damned auto correct!

  • Bonglim says:

    9 Feb9 February 07:24

    The upgrade price is the difference between the avios prices.
    WTP Avios price has a bigger off peak-peak jump than club world’s off peak to peak jump.

    Therefore the prices are higher, but closer together. Hence the upgrade price is less.

    Hope that makes sense.

• Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

  9 Feb9 February 07:33

  When I looked, itineraries that terminated in London were pricing up in the £800s – still a big discount over an ex-london trip but with half the positioning hassle.

• Talay says:

  9 Feb9 February 07:39

  On a point of law, has anyone ever been surcharged for not flying a leg on a plane and if so, has anyone ever taken this before a court ?

  I ask because I find it a difficult argument which opens the doors to price differentiation issues should an airline say that you need to fly legs which you may choose not to.

  Surely the airline’s argument would be that it was a contract and you agreed to go back to XYZ and that if only going as far as ABC then it should be priced higher but charging you more to fly less is an argument which I would not wish to take to court as my main point of defence.

  • Alex W says:

    9 Feb9 February 07:53

    Many years ago when I was a student before I was a points collector I rang up (cannot remember which airline) to ask if I could drop a middle sector from Shanghai to Beijing and they agreed. At Beijing they had no record of this conversation and I had to pay them about £200 in RMB to get back on the plane to LHR. Found out later the phone call had cost about £50 as well! With hindsight it could have been a lot worse, they could have forced me to buy a full fare one way ticket!

  • Rob says:

    9 Feb9 February 08:36

    BA is VERY trigger happy in surcharging travel agents for the extra, because it is easy – they deduct the money from commission due.

    Propeller Travel, who long term readers will remember we worked with at one point, was closed down by BA because it sold too many tickets to people who dropped legs.

    As an individual booking on ba.com the worst that will happen is your BAEC account gets closed. This is not unknown but they would want to see a few instances before they act.

  • Prins Polo says:

    9 Feb9 February 08:57

    Short answer is “no”. Not a single example. Extensively discussed on Flyertalk.

    • Rob says:

      9 Feb9 February 09:01

      Is this with the same high level of certainty as your comment yesterday that Amex pays Avios 0.1p per point when I know it is 1p? 🙂

      Remember that you were probably still in nappies when I started doing this 🙂

      • Mikeact says:

        9 Feb9 February 09:09

        Nice one !

      • Tom H says:

        9 Feb9 February 14:25

        Boom!

      • barry cutters says:

        9 Feb9 February 14:48

        Well done

      • Ali says:

        11 Feb11 February 20:50

        burn!

    • Bagoly says:

      9 Feb9 February 09:27

      Curate’s egg:
      I support the idea that re last leg, HfP view is “You must take it unless the long-haul flight coming in is so delayed that you miss it, or it’s from a different London airport and the traffic is a problem”.
      For anyone who wants to be more aggressive than that I suggest that FT is a more appropriate forum.

      • PAL says:

        9 Feb9 February 12:16

        +1. different airport. Traffic

      • Polly says:

        9 Feb9 February 13:58

        Absolutely. “Traffic on the M25 was a nightmare”. We just couldn’t get to LGW to get back to Dublin. Luckily our bags came off at LHR with Us! Such a shame. But we were happy to go home that evening after we missed our flight to Dublin.

        Another time we were supposed to fly back Dub from LCY, “my husband had a meeting in the city”.So we had to land at LHR, collect our bags, and go to The city. But “the meeting went over” and we missed our flight back to Dublin as a result.

      • Callum says:

        10 Feb10 February 02:24

        Why would the meeting running late be a valid excuse to miss the flight?

        If it was you could say that about any connection – “popped out of the airport for a quick work meeting, it ran late so I didn’t have time to get back in for the next flight”.

  • CS says:

    9 Feb9 February 09:52

    A few years ago I flew CPH-YYZ via LHR on BA and on the return just left at Heathrow. I never heard anything about it from them, though I guess if I were a repeat offender I might. I was hand baggage only and on the app check in, I only “checked in” for the first leg, no idea if that made a difference.

  • Nick says:

    9 Feb9 February 10:02

    If it’s a ‘married segment’ then this counts as a through-fare itinerary and the terms and conditions would be enforceable in court accordingly. If it’s not then you’re right, it might be a grey area.
    It’s the same as the trains. If London – Southampton is cheaper than London-Eastleigh so you book it (as in the famous example), you can’t get off early as the fare you bought was only valid between the two specified points. It just happens to be made using a service that also offers alternative options for other journeys.

    • Rob says:

      9 Feb9 February 11:38

      It went to court in Germany. As a result, when you book a Lufthansa ticket, you get weird wording saying that you agree to use your tickets in the order they are issued and any attempt to use the tickets out of sequence will result in extra payment being due.

• Mark says:

  9 Feb9 February 07:49

  Good luck finding reward availability in CW when looking for upgrades to the West Coast…

  • JamesB says:

    9 Feb9 February 08:07

    The a380 SFO is probably best bet. Is this fare working with the Oakland flights? If so, perhaps better upgrade opportunities there.

    • Lumma says:

      9 Feb9 February 09:32

      If it works with the Oakland flights then surely there’s more options to drop the last leg as they’re from Gatwick?

• Jovanna says:

  9 Feb9 February 08:01

  What is Premium Economy cabin / service like on AA? I didn’t know that they offered it.

  • Andy says:

    9 Feb9 February 08:08

    Just in its infancy but I’ve seen a few YouTube reviews and it looks nice.

  • lumma says:

    9 Feb9 February 11:00

    Another point would be you’ll need to transfer to T3 if you chose the AA option, but you’ll get the better lounge options there if you upgrade to business or have status. Could make a longer stopover at Heathrow more fun!

  • Polly says:

    10 Feb10 February 03:19

    Anyone with AA status who get a certain number of free upgrades per year are furious and up in arms about it. Until now their free upgrade from Y got them a J seat. Now it only gets them PE. So like BA they will be obliged to pay more for a PE seat so they can use their upgrade vouchers to J.
    Not a happy bunch. That plus the smaller loos. Not positive customers experiences l’d say.

• CV3V says:

  9 Feb9 February 08:22

  It is indeed good news as i dont bother attempting to wade through the mire at FT and all the sarcastic / critical comments people post on it.

• Rob MC says:

  9 Feb9 February 08:26

  If you do this and upgrade from WTP to Club how much roughly do you pay in tax?

  • Rob says:

    9 Feb9 February 08:29

    There is no APD so it is only whatever extra fuel surcharge may exist over WTP.

    • Rebecca says:

      9 Feb9 February 10:37

      I paid £60 to upgrade from WTP to CW from Abu Dhabi. Plus avios.

  • lumma says:

    9 Feb9 February 12:02

    I’ve had a bit of a play around with this on the BA site and if I find availability to upgrade, the price seems to be over £1000. I’m not sure if it’s because the European leg gets upgraded to Business Class too but I can’t seem to get it to work

    • Jonathan says:

      11 Feb11 February 13:32

      There might be an issue if the underlying fare is “dual inventory”. Slightly bizzare concept but essentially you’re buying an Economy fare but get to fly in WTP.

      If you try the book & upgrade option BA’s website selects an underlying WTP fare which will be more expensive. The cheap fares are upgradeable but BA’s decrepit web booking system can’t handle it.

      If you book the cheap fare online and call up then they can process upgrade for you (make sure you get them to deduct phone booking fee as it’s a system failure). Alternatively call up and book flight & upgrade at same time (this is slightly trickier if you’re trying to be sneaky with LHR-LGW connection etc. on return leg). Remember you have 24 hour free cancellation window should the upgrade availability disappear between booking & calling so no risk in adopting first strategy.

  • Ade says:

    9 Feb9 February 12:34

    We are on a LHR – LAX flight this week, avios upgrade WT+ to Cw was £50 and 25k avios p.person outbound, no availability inbound at the mo.

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