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Part 2: Are the new Virgin Atlantic credit cards right for you?

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This is Part 2 of my focus today on the new Virgin Atlantic Reward and Reward+ credit cards.  Part 1, which is a factual look at the cards, is hereThe main marketing website for the cards is here.

As a reminder:

You CAN apply for the new Virgin Atlantic credit cards – and get a sign-up bonus – if you already have the MBNA Virgin Atlantic credit cards

The free Virgin Atlantic Reward Credit card has a 5000 miles sign-up bonus, earns 0.75 miles per £1 and comes with a 241 or upgrade voucher for spending £20,000 per year

The £160 Virgin Atlantic Reward+ credit card has a 15000 miles sign-up bonus, earns 1.5 miles per £1 and comes with a 241 or upgrade voucher for spending £10,000 per year

The Virgin Atlantic credit cards are issued by Virgin Money so it is very unlikely that you will be conflicted due to having any other cards from the same bank

You can apply for the free Virgin Atlantic Reward card here and the £160 Virgin Atlantic Reward+ card here.

I need to remind you that the free Reward card has a representative APR of 22.9% variable.  The Reward+ card has a representative APR of 63.9% based on a notional £1200 credit limit and the annual fee.  The representative APR on purchases is 22.9%.

Which card is best for you?

As usual, there is no easy answer to this question.  Here are my initial thoughts.

I am 99% certain that MBNA will withdraw the existing Virgin Atlantic credit cards in a couple of months.  This is standard practice when issuers switch, as we saw with IHG and Barclaycard.  Do NOT think that you will be able to carry on using the current cards in the medium or long term.  I would be especially wary of spending on these cards if you are targeting an upgrade voucher unless you can hit the target very soon.

If you have the MBNA cards, you should be applying for the new Virgin Money cards.  The earning rate on the new Mastercard is better than the rate on the old Visa.  I am guessing, based on the IHG / Barclaycard scenario, that Virgin will NOT be allowed to contact you about the new cards so don’t wait for a direct email or letter – it won’t be coming.  If you are hoping to trigger a voucher on the old cards before they are closed, keep using the old MBNA American Express (only Amex spend counts towards the voucher) and put your Mastercard / Visa spend onto the new card.

The free Reward credit card is a very easy free 5,000 Virgin Atlantic miles.  Even if you are not a major Virgin Flying Club collector, 5,000 miles for making one purchase is attractive.

Whether you should get the Reward+ credit card depends on your spending.  Purely from a bonus point of view, you are spending £160 to get 15,000 Flying Club miles.  This is an OK deal but not a no-brainer.  To get full benefit you need to know that you will be spending on the cards too.

Virgin Money will allow you to have BOTH cards and to earn a bonus on both.  They told me yesterday that their responsible lending policy would not look kindly on anyone who applied for both at the same time, however.

The on-going earning rate is EXCELLENT – if you can use the miles

Let’s not beat around the bush.  Looking first at the free Virgin Atlantic Reward credit card, 0.75 Virgin Flying Club miles per £1 spent makes this the most generous free Visa or Mastercard currently available.

What are your alternatives, looking only at cards still open to new applicants?

I would value 0.75 Virgin Flying Club miles at 0.75p

The free IHG Rewards Club card gives 1 point per £1, which I value at 0.4p

The £24 Lloyds Avios Rewards card gives 0.25 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard, which I value at 0.25p

The free Tesco Clubcard Mastercard gives 0.125 Clubcard points per £1 (0.3 Avios) which I value at 0.3p

The free Virgin Atlantic Reward credit card is twice as valuable as the next best free travel Mastercard or Visa card.

Similarly, on the fee-based Reward+ credit card:

I would value 1.5 Virgin Flying Club miles per £1 at 1.5p

The £99 IHG Rewards Club Premium card gives 2 IHG points per £1, which I value at 0.8p

The £150 Tesco Premium Mastercard gives 0.25 Clubcard points per £1 (0.6 Avios) which I value at 0.6p

Again, the fee Virgin Atlantic Reward+ credit card is twice as valuable as the next best fee-paying travel Mastercard or Visa card.

But the snag …..

…. is using the miles.  Virgin Atlantic is a long-haul airline and so you don’t have any low value redemptions of note.

Virgin Flying Club will change massively in the next 12 months when Air France and KLM flights become available for redemption.  This will add short haul options in Europe as well as the excellent Air France / KLM long-haul network.

You will need a decent stock of miles to take advantage of this.  The good news is that you can also earn Virgin Flying Club miles from other partners:

American Express Membership Rewards from Amex Gold or Platinum (1:1)

Tesco Clubcard (1 point is 2.5 miles)

Heathrow Rewards (1:1)

Transfers from hotel loyalty schemes

There are also lots of partner promotions which we write about on Head for Points.  You CAN build up a decent stock of miles relatively easily – the free Amex Gold has a 20,000 point sign-up bonus which will convert into 20,000 Virgin miles.

Where does Virgin Atlantic fly these days?

I wrote an article – click here – on that exact topic last year.

Virgin Atlantic Reward Plus credit card

What do I think of the upgrade voucher?

I like it.  If you usually travel on your own, you don’t need a 2-4-1 voucher.

The upgrade voucher offered with the new Virgin credit cards lets you book a return Premium Economy reward flight on Virgin Atlantic for the same miles as an Economy reward flight.

The voucher would also work for couples.  Vouchers are valid for two years.  As you can earn one voucher per year, you would be able to upgrade a flight every two years.  If your card spend is high enough you can also, of course, get a card for yourself and a card for your partner and hit the qualifying spend on each.

What do I think of the 2-4-1 vouchers?

To be honest, I am disappointed and I am 99% sure that Virgin Atlantic has missed a trick.  There is no good reason, in my view, to restrict Upper Class redemptions using the 241 voucher to Virgin Flying Club Gold members.

As we all know, or should know, long-haul redemptions in Economy are usually a waste of miles because of the taxes and charges.  Virgin Atlantic generally has lower taxes and charges in Economy than British Airways but the same policy applies.  For non-status members of Flying Club, this is likely to be a perk with little value outside peak periods and they would be better off taking the upgrade voucher.

If someone has enough miles for Upper Class they are likely to be Gold anyway.  However, if a Head for Points reader was willing to move 100,000 miles over from Amex Membership Rewards or Tesco, that should also be fine.  Amex or Tesco would be paying Virgin Atlantic roughly £1000 and, with 2 x fuel surcharges and the £160 annual fee on the Reward+ card, it should be a decent deal for the airline.

Many people hoard miles for when they retire or are travelling less, but they will lose status at this point and so can’t use the Upper Class 241.  There is also a timing issue – you need to be Gold on the day you book and this brings additional problems for people moving between Red, Silver and Gold.

It isn’t even easy to become Virgin Flying Club Gold.  It is possible to be a heavy flyer but, unless North America is your main destination, still struggle to take Virgin Atlantic flights.  Many people can’t earn Virgin Gold status even if they want to due to the narrow Virgin route network.

It makes the whole benefits package unnecessarily messy and, more importantly, Virgin Atlantic has lost an opportunity for an easy win over British Airways.  If we had a Mastercard with a 241 voucher which would let everyone redeem for Upper Class, it would be an unbeatable product.  I would like to think they will rethink this part of the package over time.

PS.  There is some good news for families where one parent is Gold.  Virgin has confirmed to me that, if both parents have their own credit card and 241 voucher but only one parent is Gold, Virgin Atlantic will allow them to redeem both vouchers together for four seats in Upper Class.  The same applies to Silver members and Premium Economy rewards.

Virgin Rewards credit card

Conclusion

From the perspective of day-to-day earning, the new Virgin Atlantic credit cards are excellent.  They are the most valuable Visa or Mastercard travel cards on the market in terms of return.

If you have a pot of Virgin miles which you can add to via these cards, you should think seriously about applying

If you are Virgin Gold and can access the 2-4-1 voucher in Upper Class, you should think seriously about applying

If you are Virgin Silver and are happy redeeming your 2-4-1 voucher for Premium Economy, you should think seriously about applying

If you are a solo traveller and will benefit from the Premium Economy upgrade voucher when booking an Economy ticket on miles, you should think seriously about applying

If you are a casual Virgin Flying Club collector, 5000 miles for taking out the free card and 0.75 miles per £1 spent will see your balance move along, albeit slowly.  You may or may not get value from paying £160 for one year for the Reward+ card to get the 15,000 mile bonus.

If you have the MBNA Virgin cards, you should switch.  I would be shocked if the current cards survived the summer.

Access to seven Virgin Money lounges around the UK (I reviewed the Piccadilly one here) is a decent extra perk for everyone.  The full list of lounges is here.

You can apply for the FREE Virgin Atlantic Reward credit card (5,000 miles bonus) here and the paid-for Virgin Atlantic Reward+ credit card (15,000 miles bonus) here.

Disclaimer: Head for Points is a journalistic website. Nothing here should be construed as financial advice, and it is your own responsibility to ensure that any product is right for your circumstances. Recommendations are based primarily on the ability to earn miles and points. The site discusses products offered by lenders but is not a lender itself. Robert Burgess, trading as Head for Points, is regulated and authorised by the Financial Conduct Authority to act as an independent credit broker.


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 15,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

15,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

A generous earning rate for a free card at 0.75 points per £1 Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 40,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 40,000 Virgin Points.

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

(Want to earn more Virgin Points?  Click here to see our recent articles on Virgin Atlantic and Flying Club and click here for our home page with the latest news on earning and spending other airline and hotel points.)

Comments (296)

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  • Richard says:

    Rob – do you know if a 241 used in economy can later be upgrade to PE or UC? (For the full amount of extra miles for 2 people of course)?

    • Rob says:

      Not clear, I doubt it has been thought through that far. I guess not.

  • Kathy says:

    Well, I am disappointed. If I’m flying long-haul I want a flat bed, and as a non-frequent flyer leisure traveller I’m never going to hit silver, let alone gold.

    It’s a shame the upgrade voucher won’t let you go from Premium to Upper Class – that I would snap up! It underlines just how good the Lloyds Avios card is – just earnt an upgrade voucher on that so hoping they keep it open for existing card holders a bit longer!

    The free card earning rate is not as good as the current free Amex, so it’s an earnings downgrade. I’m better off sticking to regular churns of the PRG for Virgin Miles.

    Of course I’ll take out the card at some point for an easy 5000 Miles, but I can’t see it being where I put my long-term spend.

  • Joseph Heenan says:

    The 241 is definitely disappointing vs BA.

    Will the 241 be reedemable on KLM/AF by Flying blue gold for business class? If it was that would make a massive difference to which airlines I favour when booking my corporate travel.

  • roberto says:

    As a non status couple wanting to fly “anything-but-ecomomy” I cant see an upside in this..

    Maybe I got my stupid head on this morning.

    • Carl says:

      +1

      Presumably though, that’s the point and they’re not marketing it at us.

      • Rob says:

        ‘We’ are generally the core base market. Look at Curve. They are happy for a few thousand HFP readers to jump in because it gets the cards out there, generates volume, helps attract more investors etc. They would like to become mass marker but they are happy to start with us.

        Similarly, Virgin will need years to build up a mass market following for this. I could bring them 5,000 cardholders in 24 hours if the offer was generous enough (which this isn’t).

        • Will says:

          What does “core base” mean Rob? In % terms?

          Who is their ideal customer? Always interested to know how it works. You can tell I don’t work in finance!

          • Rob says:

            In a perfect world for VS people from outside the frequent flyer world, people who don’t even have a FC account yet, would apply because they aspired to a free trip at some point.

            Perhaps that may happen. Short term they need the hard core to sign up because they don’t need anything explaining to them and if the card is seen as a failure in 3 months time then people will be in trouble, budgets cut etc and it may never get the time to find an audience.

            Bit like a TV show that ‘never had a chance to find its audience’ before being canned.

    • Helen says:

      if you collect enough points and use them for PE or UC then that’s ok….??

  • Clive says:

    Perhaps the situation re the 241 and needing gold will only really be understood once the arrangement with AF/KLM is revealed and we find out how hard it is to earn gold using that whole network.
    (Just as BA status is made more attainable through Qatar/Finnair flights)

  • Carl says:

    I find this quite interesting. The general view seemed to be that to make rewards credit cards work with the interchange cap, brands would have to start offering status as part of the package. Instead, Virgin Money have gone the opposite direction and are offering perks that are only valuable to status holders. I think it’s an interesting move to offer better perks to their loyal customers who they want to keep sweet and lower rewards to the more casual flyer who doesn’t do much business with them.

    • Rob says:

      The problem is that VS does not have so many status members and Virgin Money wants to make a massive splash with this product. VM is certainly not in this just to pick up 10,000 Virgin Silver and Gold member accounts.

    • Kathy says:

      Yes, I can see the logic from their point of view. But, as someone who has never ever flown with Virgin and is only considering it if I can use Miles to try Upper Class, this card does not help get me in through their doors.

      I am planning a trip to Delhi next year with work. This is a once-in-5-years trip – I don’t travel regularly for work. I have 65,000 Virgin flying club miles, and 55,000 Avios and a Lloyd’s upgrade voucher, and £60 of Tesco Clubcard vouchers.

      LHR-DEL is actually a significantly cheaper business class redemption on Virgin than BA – 75,000 Miles instead of 125,000 Miles. So it should be a perfect opportunity for Virgin to get me in through their doors to try their product, and possibly woo me away from BA for my leisure travel. I’m only 10k Miles short of a redemption and I can transfer from Tesco CC to get them. Only the upgrade voucher means I can fly BA Club to Delhi for 65,000 Avios – which I can also achieve by transferring my Tesco CC points.

      So – unless there’s some amazingly exciting theatre production in New York announced for next season that I desperately want to see (I’m a theatre geek) and will use Avios and my upgrade voucher for – it’s cheaper for me to stick with BA for the Delhi trip.

  • Bonglim says:

    What is the point in this card?

    Is it to reward those people who already do a lot (all) of their flying on VA – thus already give all their travel money to VA? probably not as that only makes them less money next year than they made last year.
    Is it to encourage people to move to Virgin Atlantic away from BA (and other airlines)? – more likely as that will make them more money.

    I agree that I am very disappointed with the restrictions. I have just used loads of avios and now down to 6000. Would consider jumping over to collecting virgin miles, but cannot do so as cannot redeem in upper class. With my paid flights I would probably be right on the border for getting gold status, but the risk is I am just under the border, so it is just not worth it.

    I suspect they have spent a long time creating a card that they think will be excellent and will be slightly underwhelmed by the overall usage because of this restriction. Then in the not too distant future this restriction will be dropped.

    If they dropped the restrictions then there would suddenly be a massive swing from BA credit cards to virgin credit cards. And beating BA seems to be the most important result for VA – so they will be tempted. With the restrictions still in place, I am sorry to say the BAPP is still the best product available.

    • Rob says:

      The line I got from the head of FC yesterday was ‘we wanted to offer something extra to our Gold members’. I disagree, and that is the sort of thing that BA would come out with if they decided to restrict F redemptions to Gold.

      • TripRep says:

        Great companion Rob. Maybe they could offer Gold’s better availability options like BA do for certain status?

        • TripRep says:

          *comparison

        • Paul says:

          But BA extra seats are only in economy or double the Avios. It’s not really extra availability and doesn’t help with 241.

      • Leo says:

        For me Rob they just aren’t offering enough to bring people in. It’s okay for VS to offer more to Golds but is there a need to do that via a credit card? How many golds do they even have? If they had allowed the PE upgrade to be split across two one way flights as the current PE upgrade vouchers do then that would have been enough to get me to take out this card. This card is not really about attracting those customers who want to avoid economy – that’s got to be a huge error hasn’t it? Who is going to take out the fee card?

      • Mark says:

        As someone who (aside from a one-way flight with Etihad) has only ever collected and redeemed Avios in large quantities over the past ~17 years I’ve been thinking recently about directing some of my stash of clubcard and Amex reward points in Virgin’s direction for a pair of UC redemptions.

        I have no VS status, having only flown with them once in economy, but have the equivalent of 300-350K miles that we could potentially send their way.

        The slightly better clubcard conversion rate, a 20% conversion bonus and some comparatively attractive redemption rates (e.g. 85K Miami off-peak as against £125K avios for BA) is enough to start me thinking about it, but for as long as we have a BA 2for1 voucher we can use BA still trumps a Virgin redemption.

        Shame this isn’t a bit more attractive for non-status holders. It may have made all the difference.

  • Alex W says:

    People need to stop complaining about the restrictions on the 241. Considering the 0.3% fee cap the offer seems a lot more generous than it could have been.

    • TripRep says:

      Alex – sure thing thanks for the top tip to ensure we self censor our valid opinions, jeez…

    • Leo says:

      Erm…it’s the announcement of the cards, when else are we supposed to discuss the benefits? I’d maybe not be moaning if I had VS Gold or maybe even Silver status btw.

    • Clive says:

      But doesn’t the same fee cap apply to the BA card? Amex lost their appeal, didn’t they?
      You’d have a valid point if the fees they can charge are very different but I thought the two airline cards were in the same boat.

      • Alex W says:

        All valid points, it’s just a bit tedious sifting through 200 comments saying the same thing. Rob had already expressed his disappointment about the 241 restrictions in the article.

        Yes for the majority the BAPP has the superior 241 voucher, but for how long is that card sustainable in its current form? The BAPP package may yet be degraded to something similar or worse than the new virgin card. Time will tell whether Virgin needs to improve its cards to complete with BA. I suspect it won’t, but hope it does!

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