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Here’s the August date for the full Marriott / SPG merger – and news on Travel Packages

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I spoke to David Flueck, the big cheese at Marriott Rewards (his business card says something more prosaic) yesterday.  He filled me in on the timeline for the merger of the SPG and Marriott programmes.

This is what we already knew:

During August there is a ‘big bang’ day when the two programmes effectively become one.  The two scheme names – Marriott Rewards and Starwood Preferred Guest – will continue and there will be two websites, but they will be clones of each other.  

The new reward chart kicks in from this date – we talked about the new chart here, highlighting the best and worst of the changes 

The new elite tiers kick in – we discussed those here 

Your existing Starwood points balance gets multiplied by three

The new benefits package kicks in – for example, top tier elite members will start to get free breakfast at brands such as Moxy and JW Marriott Resorts where they do not get it today.

In January, there will be a 2nd round of changes when the new scheme name will be unveiled, a new website launched and the existing Marriott Rewards and SPG sites closed.

Pretty much everything you need to know is in my article from March here and my article from June on the new Marriott / Starwood redemption chart here.

What we didn’t know is the date.  Now we do.

The new combined scheme will launch on Saturday 18th August.  It will cover 6,500 hotels in 127 countries.

There will be a substantial period of downtime whilst the databases are moved across – and 20 million new lines of code added and tested, apparently – so it isn’t clear exactly when on Saturday 18th August you will be able to make redemptions.

This is important if you are planning to jump in on some of the 60,000 point bargains which will be available.  These are hotels which will jump to as much as 105,000 points per night from January when the new Category 9 and peak pricing begins.

At the extreme, hotels such as St Regis Maldives will drop from the equivalent of 270,000 points per night now to 60,000 points if you book between 18th August and 31st December, for stays up to 31st December 2019.

The new combined programme will have 110 million members.   If the new scheme was a country, it would be the 12th biggest by population.

Marriott and Starwood loyalty scheme merger 18 August

The new scheme name will not be revealed until January 2019.  Just to make life awkward for people like myself who need to write about it ….

From 18th August you will be able to formally merge your current Marriott Rewards and SPG accounts.  Once you have done, you will see a combined points balance and combined elite nights total when you log in to either website.

All SPG members will receive a new 9-digit account number that aligns with the specifications of the new system.  The new account number will appear through a pop-up when they log into their account. Passwords will stay the same unless you decide to change it. Some members of Marriott Rewards will also receive a new account number. These members will receive an email with their new account information.

What happens if you don’t trigger the merger? You end up with two accounts in the ‘new Marriott’ scheme.

I took the opportunity to ask David about the two key merger questions that I am always asked:

Is it now 100% certain that anyone who has Marriott Gold from a Starwood Gold match, and whose Starwood Gold came as a credit card perk, will be Gold and not Platinum in the new scheme?

Yes.

(If you are Marriott Gold because you earned it, you become Platinum in the new scheme.  Platinum in the new scheme is, in terms of benefits, the same as Gold in the old scheme.)

What will happen to existing Marriott Travel Packages which are not yet redeemed?

I did not get the answer that you may have wanted.  Travel Packages are well down the list of priorities at the moment.  Marriott will NOT be telling people before 18th August what will happen to their existing unused package.

David’s recommendation is to redeem now if you want to be certain of getting a specific hotel, but of course that is no use if you want what is currently a Starwood property.

If you are on the fence about getting a Travel Package, I can’t help you decide.  You won’t know before 18th August if you will get a better deal or not by waiting.

After 18th August, redemptions of existing Travel Package hotel certificates will be suspended.

David specifically said to me that Marriott is considering voiding all outstanding Travel Packages after 18th August and refunding the hotel part.

This may not happen.  It is possible that they find a way of mapping existing packages across to the new categories.  However, be aware that – after 18th August – you will not be able to book a hotel using an existing Travel Package certificate until they have made up their mind. You are at the mercy of Marriott as to whether they decide to reimburse your points (less the value of the airline miles you’ve already had) or find a way of letting you book a comparable hotel to the old category system.

For clarity, if you buy a Travel Package after 18th August based on the new pricing chart you won’t have any problems.  You can redeem that without issue.

Most people sitting on Travel Package certificates were hoping to redeem for Starwood hotels.  This may well not happen now and they will be disappointed.

But …. it is possible that some people may be happy to get a large part of the cost of their package refunded. I will look at why in a future article.  For the brave, there could be an interesting gamble here.


How to earn Marriott Bonvoy points and status from UK credit cards

How to earn Marriott Bonvoy points and status from UK credit cards (April 2024)

There are various ways of earning Marriott Bonvoy points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

The official Marriott Bonvoy American Express card comes with 20,000 points for signing up, 2 points for every £1 you spend and 15 elite night credits per year.

You can apply here.

Marriott Bonvoy American Express

20,000 points sign-up bonus and 15 elite night credits each year Read our full review

You can also earn Marriott Bonvoy points by converting American Express Membership Rewards points at the rate of 2:3.

Do you know that holders of The Platinum Card from American Express receive FREE Marriott Bonvoy Gold status for as long as they hold the card?  It also comes with Hilton Honors Gold, Radisson Rewards Premium and MeliaRewards Gold status.  We reviewed American Express Platinum in detail here and you can apply here.

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

You can also earn Marriott Bonvoy points indirectly:

and for small business owners:

The conversion rate from American Express to Marriott Bonvoy points is 2:3.

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which can be used to earn Marriott Bonvoy points

(Want to earn more hotel points?  Click here to see our complete list of promotions from the major hotel chains or use the ‘Hotel Offers’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.)

Comments (166)

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  • tracy says:

    If I buy a travel package for category 7 now as that is as high as i can get based on my points but want to book a marriott category 9 hotel and the hotel has availability now loaded for july 2019, can I put the certificate towards the hotel and book it and owe marriott the difference in points from category 7 to 9 or do i need to wait until I have the extra points and upgrade the certificate and then book the hotel?

    • Peter K says:

      The latter.

      • Tracy says:

        not the answer i was hoping for……

        • RK says:

          Again, I think it is possible in theory under the current setup to book this hotel now as a points redemption now(doesn’t matter that you don’t have enough points and you dont need to do anything with your existing cat 7 travel package) and then apply your cat 9 travel package against the booking when you earn it. After August 18th, who knows if this will be possible.

        • Tracy says:

          But I will struggle to earn the points again to pay back the standard redemption if I use all my marriott points now for the travel package and it doesn’t go favourably after 18th……the avios are of no use to me if I need hotel points, decisions decisions 🙂

  • Jack says:

    Does anyone know if there’s a marketplace website for buying Marriott points? Have reached my max purchase limit but need some more to top off for a reward.

    • Mark says:

      buy some spg?

      • AndyW says:

        Or if you can’t buy anymore SPG can you buy AMEX MR? Used to be able to.

        • Genghis says:

          IIRC max 10k @1.5p ea making SPG 3p ea. Too rich for my blood.

        • AndyW says:

          Generally I agree, but if you need a small number to book a redemption before the program changes the cost per point may become less significant.

  • Bill says:

    OT I booked europcar one way 1 GBP and got charged over GBP 100 when I dropped off. I perhaps foolishly told the drop off location to email my invoice. I’ve raised a customer service case. Be aware!

    • AndyK says:

      What’s the charge for?

      • bill says:

        Fuel – 35 litres of the stuff
        delivered back to the branch full
        126 miles driven

        • Lady London says:

          If you kept the receipt for the fuel you put in and send them a copy you should be fine, they should cancel the charge immediately.

    • @mkcol says:

      I did the £1 rental too – from Milton Keynes to LHR.

      All was fine on drop off. Later I got a £20 cleaning service fee. I raised a customer service case and they sided with me as there was no notes on it needing extra cleaning when it was booked in. Got £21 refunded!

      Sounds like they’re trying to sneak in an odd charge here or there.

    • the_real_a says:

      Always, always take photos guys…

  • Concerto says:

    My Europcar GBP1.00 offer from Edgeware to Heathrow was delivered yesterday. There was bumper damage, which was reported and written on the contract at pickup, but it wasn’t in the system at Europcar Heathrow. Two other items of damage, also noted on the contract, were in the system. They photographed the contract (with the notes on it) and the damage and I hope that’s the last I hear of it. Should have taken photos myself, but the guy was with me making notes, so I thought it was ok.

    • AndyK says:

      I think it’s a pattern. I was given a car without spare wheel which I noticed only later. Heathrow office had to call them to get the confirmation

    • Mr Dee says:

      These rental companies always look like they are doing things but genuinely miss things all the time, then when you drop the car off to someone else they go on a sheet which may not have been updated again, last time I missed something was a cracked wing mirror which would have been hard to spot or expect.

      Take photos always, I have often had claims completely dismissed straight away when I said I took photos and showed the people.

      • Lady London says:

        I tried a new rental location in Milan that is getting very bad reviews for trying on things like this when people return cars. It was a nightmare experience and I won’t be using them again for a variety of different reasons. One thing I did was make sure to mention when picking up the car, and again when dropping the car back, that I had made photographs of the car all round and inside and nothing was missing/damaged. I also proferred a copy of the fuel refilling receipt timestamped 15 minutes earlier and asked them to note they had seen it, its timestamp and how much fuel had been replaced into the car by that fill.

        The person wrote that down on the record – especially the fact that I had photographed the car – when I returned the car . Miraculously there were no attempts to charge me for the usual things above. Given that location’s reputation, I consider I did well to get out of it without a fraudulent claim being made by the rental company. (Forced to use them as where I go cant be reached without a car, and every other company had sold out.)

        • the real harry1 says:

          My £1 Europcar went fine in this respect but we did take photos of all damage and got quite a bit added to the form to cover anything dodgy. As it happens, the LHR team were very happy to issue the £1 final invoice (Ie no further damage) so I left feeling relaxed (got charged the mug’s £300 20 years ago for damage I didn’t cause but I hadn’t forced the company to note every last scratch).

          They did initially try to charge me £67 but that was simply because some newbie put the wrong number plate in when closing the contract! All innocent & I got the thumbs up from the Polish guys running the desk when they saw my £1! 🙂

  • jason says:

    OT do we know if Platinum quests get access to the club level lounge at Ritz branded hotels going forward

  • Jumble Tales says:

    OT again re: Amex PRG charge cards. For existing holders, will Amex automatically replace charge card holders’ cards with PRG credit cards at cards’ expiry dates or even at the end of a membership year? As it is a different product are charge card holders entitled to the first year fee waiver on the credit card ?

  • Memesweeper says:

    Any news on the re-launch of the Creation / Marriott CC?

    • Rob says:

      No. I have made my interest very clear to Marriott and I know the Creation guys – not that I have got a penny out of them! – so let’s see.

  • RK says:

    I believe you can book a 7 night points booking even if you don’t have the points and then apply a travel package to that booking later – in the same way that you can book a reward before you have the points and then apply the points to the booking when you earn them.

    I have not done this though, just been told that it is possible on FlyerTalk.

    • Scallder says:

      I have done exactly this (twice) so works absolutely fine.

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