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Virgin Group, Virgin Atlantic and Delta Airlines have announced their intention to launch a brand new pan-Virgin loyalty programme with reward opportunities across all Virgin brands.

You can find out more here on the Virgin Atlantic website.

This is a further attempt by Virgin Group to bring all of its brands closer together, something which has been challenging in the past because each business has separate ownership and different shareholders.  Virgin Trains, for example, is owned by Virgin Group and Stagecoach whilst Virgin Atlantic is owned by Delta, KLM, Air France and Virgin Group (now just 20%).  Virgin Money is a PLC although it is in the process of being taken over by the parent of Clydesdale Bank and Yorkshire Bank.

Back in 2015 Virgin Group launched Virgin Red, an app which lets users earn points and prizes through quizzes, challenges and reverse auctions. By ‘getting to know’ the user, the app enables relevant Virgin products to be promoted. Virgin Red will be integrated into the new company.

An interesting ownership structure

Virgin Group and Delta Air Lines have founded a new entity, Virgin Group Loyalty Company (VGLC), which will own and manage the new loyalty scheme.

What is interesting is that Virgin Atlantic is not a shareholder.  The airline has effectively sold its loyalty scheme to the new company, although it is not known if any money changed hands.  Some deal must have been done to keep KLM and Air France happy, as they presumably invested in Virgin Atlantic assuming they would also be owning a profitable loyalty programme.

In general, moves like this are often done when an airline is in serious financial trouble.  You may remember how Etihad bought the Air Berlin loyalty programme, topbonus, at an inflated price – this was a backdoor way of injecting money into the airline without breaking EU rules on foreign investment.  There is no indication that this is being done for the same reason.

Who is running Virgin Group Loyalty Company?

VGLC will be launched in 2019 and headed up by Andrew Swaffield.  Swaffield is the well regarded former CEO of Avios Group (he was replaced by Gavin Halliday, who left to run Etihad Guest and Etihad Holidays, and who was replaced by the current CEO Drew Crawley).  VGLC will hopefully be a happier job than the one he left Avios Group to do – become CEO of Monarch Airlines ……

Andrew Swaffield said about the new programme:

“Virgin is one of the most admired brands in the UK and across the world, serving 53 million customers each year across 60 companies. Customers expect to be rewarded for their loyalty to Virgin and we want to ensure Virgin customers get the very best rewards possible. Our ambition is to bring the Virgin companies together and combine their appeal to customers, working together to create a truly outstanding offer”

Virgin Atlantic has said that there will be no changes to Virgin Flying Club for now, and that in the future members will have an expanded range of ways to earn and spend miles via the new Virgin loyalty programme.

Oli Byers, SVP Global Sales and Customer Loyalty, Virgin Atlantic, said:

“Today Flying Club offers Virgin Atlantic’s customers compelling and valuable rewards for flying on Virgin Atlantic, Delta and a range of Flying Club partners. This will continue to be the case, but at the same time we’re excited to work collaboratively with Virgin Group to build a stronger loyalty programme and unleash the power of our shared brand to reward customers for their loyalty to Virgin. We’ll be giving customers more reasons to join Flying Club and fly with Virgin Atlantic and our airline partners.”

It is important to note that Virgin Flying Club miles will be the ‘currency’ of the new scheme.

My initial concern here is how the relationship between Flying Club and Virgin Atlantic will work.  As they will soon be totally separate companies, the airline will effectively be selling reward flights to the loyalty programme.  It is fair to say that Avios Group and BA already work like this, but at the end of the day both companies are owned by the same parent and should be pushing in the same direction.  That is not necessarily the case here.

My other worry is that Virgin Flying Club moves towards revenue-based redemption once it is legally separate from the airline.  After all, it is highly likely that all of the other redemption options with Virgin Trains, Virgin Active, Virgin Media etc will be revenue-based at around 0.5p per mile.

I am also intrigued as to why Delta Air Lines is a shareholder in Virgin Group Loyalty Company but Virgin Atlantic (49% Delta owned) is not.  It is worth noting that we do not know the exact split of ownership between Virgin Group and Delta.

It will also be interesting to see how the arrival in 2019 of KLM and Air France as Virgin Flying Club earning and redeeming partners is impacted by this.

With Virgin Group as a shareholder, I am confident that VGLC will be a success.  Virgin Group will be able to put pressure on Virgin-branded businesses to sign up, and it could become a contractual requirement for new partners.

We will keep you updated as we find out more …..

The Virgin Atlantic website has the full statement here.


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 15,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

15,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

A generous earning rate for a free card at 0.75 points per £1 Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 40,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 40,000 Virgin Points.

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

(Want to earn more Virgin Points?  Click here to see our recent articles on Virgin Atlantic and Flying Club and click here for our home page with the latest news on earning and spending other airline and hotel points.)

Comments (83)

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  • jinkssick says:

    OT: I read somewhere on this site (cant find it now) about experiencing WC long-haul aircraft on route LHR-DME. Does anyone know the exact flight numbers for my first CW experience? Thanks.

    • Genghis says:

      The aircraft change a lot on this route depending on date. Have a look on expedia to see aircraft type for your dates but don’t rely on this.

    • Alex says:

      B-787 now flies the first flight of the day (8.35 departure). It got technical mid-air 10 days ago or so, and returned to LHR after 2.5 hrs into the flight.
      I personally enjoy business class on ex-BMI A-321 – relatively new seats that turn into flat beds with tons of room around you, if you choose a stand-alone seat.

    • Alex says:

      WC long-haul 😀 Revealing slip of the keyboard?

  • Save East Coast Rewards says:

    It’ll be interesting to see how things work as this was the intention of Virgin Red to unite Virgin under a single loyalty platform and it didn’t quite work out that way. If they do improve the rewards and benefits for (now just west coast) Virgin Trains users I wonder if this will encourage LNER (formerly Virgin Trains East Coast) to improve their loyalty offering.

  • RTS says:

    Hmm guess I better use my stash of Virgin miles next year.

  • Scottydogg says:

    OT question

    Im very near to hitting the £10,000 spend on my black BA amex for the 2 for 1 , until very recently it had a count down of how much i still needed to spend to get the voucher but it seems to have disappeared ? anyone know where else on the site you can find it ?

    • JohnT says:

      Sure you haven’t hit it already – Can lag behind a bit and also take a few days to appear! Usually on membership tab on app/online?

    • Frenzie says:

      You will see the countdown for sure if you log into the web version.

  • Sam says:

    Andrew Swaffield is a joke. Just look at Monarch Airlines and his criminal mismanagement of their operations. I, ethically, cannot support any product supported by a man who knowingly assisted in the asset stripping of a previously profitable airline.

  • Rich says:

    I will see how this plays out but I am quickly coming to the stage where I am seriously thinking of leaving the points game. The reason for this is that too many schemes have been gutted or about to be gutted and it is change after change all the time. I mean last week we found out Marriott had pulled the rug out from under TP holders by a) not allowing the to upgrade their vouchers b) puttting a devaluation in on exsisting holders of Cat 6, 8 and T1 as a number of top properties in those bands are now in the new higher category c) Reduced the Amex conversion from 1 to 1.5 to 2 to 3.

    We also know Avios is soon to make new changes, with my money being on 1 Avios = 0.5p across the board since Cruz throught it was so amazing how people could use their Avios like that a few months ago, whilst lets face it this Virgin change is going to do exactly the same thing as Virgin are always just the one step behind.

    The only out is possibly IHG and Hilton if they keep their schemes the same and their new/current credit cards stay the same.

    • Genghis says:

      There’s been no change to Amex MR conversion to SPG / Marriott.
      I think you need to accept that the only constant is change in this game and try to manage the risks the best you can. I do that by earning and burning. I’d hate to have a huge stash points and to then have them devalued.

    • Marcw says:

      You have to accept that the key to success in the game is to adapt to the changes, and take advantage of promotions. It’s like Darwin’s evolution theory: adaptation is the key.
      It’s wrong to expect that everything stays the same.

  • Nigel says:

    It will be interesting to see what effect it has on Amex Centurion card holders? (they get Flying Club Gold as a benefit).

    • Colin Jones-Evans says:

      Interesting, pity Virgin don’t offer FC Silver (at least) to Amex Platinums! That would sell it for me, then I could use my Virgin Money 2-4-1 certificate for a semi-decent seat. Am I mistaken, or is Amex Centurion only by invitation?

      • Rob says:

        Yes, invite only and bad value for money. Better to pay a mate with one £500 to add you as a supp.

  • Howard says:

    I have not flown Virgin for a number of years mainly due to the BA 241 voucher where we use two a year flying BA.

    However, we have collected Virgin points taking up offers on cards over past four years and we currently hold around 250,000 Virgin Points. I was hoping that the KLM and Air France scheme would have been announced by now.

    Not sure what to do.

    • Relaxo says:

      Can always transfer some over to Hilton/IHG if you dont want to use them on flights. You take a small hit on the conversion but at least you get some utility out of the redemptions.

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