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Curve Card introduces 0% foreign exchange fees – and more change to come

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Curve Card has announced a new benefit for cardholders today – 0% foreign exchange fees.

There is another major announcement to come in around 8 weeks, but you will have to wait for that one ….

(EDIT:  Curve has changed since this article was published.  Please do not rely on the information here.  Instead, please click here to read our detailed 2020 Curve review, which includes a link for a free £10 credit when you sign up.)

Curve has always been a good deal for making payments abroad.  Historically it levied a 1% fee on foreign transactions, which it recharged to any linked Visa or Mastercard.  If you didn’t have a separate 0% FX fees credit card then using Curve was better than paying 3% to your standard credit card provider.  Even if you did have a 0% FX fees credit card, it was often more valuable to pay Curve’s 1% fee and pick up miles or points from your linked credit card.

From today, Curve will drop its foreign exchange fee to 0%, albeit with a small weekend surcharge.  It is important to note that it is using the interbank rate and NOT the official Visa / Mastercard rates – which are a tiny bit away from the spot rate – so there is absolutely no FX loss at all.

This means:

If you currently have a 0% FX fees credit card which comes with no rewards, you should definitely consider switching to Curve

If you currently have a 0% FX fees credit card with 0.5% cashback (Aqua or Tandem), you should consider switching to Curve if you have a Visa or Mastercard credit card with more valuable rewards

If you currently have the 0% FX fees Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, you should consider switching to Curve when your Lloyds Avios Rewards card is closed (the replacement you will get charges a 3% FX fee)

Curve introduces 0% foreign exchange fees

The only snag is that Curve is imposing limits if you have the free card:

If you have the free Curve Blue card:

You can spend £500 per month in foreign currency at 0% FX, after which a 2% fee applies

You can withdraw £200 per month from an ATM in foreign currency at 0% FX, after which a charge of 2% or £2, whichever is higher, applies

Like Revolut, there is a weekend surcharge of 0.5% for £, $ and € (1.5% for other currencies) to reflect the currency risk taken by guaranteeing the closing Friday rate

If you have the £50 one-off fee Curve Black card:

You can spend an unlimited amount (subject to a potential fair use charge of 2% beyond £15,000 per year) in foreign currency at 0% FX

You can withdraw £400 per month from an ATM in foreign currency at 0% FX, after which a charge of 2% or £2, whichever is higher, applies

Like Revolut, there is a weekend surcharge of 0.5% for £, $ and € (1.5% for other currencies) to reflect the currency risk taken by guaranteeing the closing Friday rate

Curve Card 0% foreign exchange fees

If you are abroad a lot, the £50 Curve Black card now looks attractive.

Let’s imagine that you have £10,000 of annual foreign spending.  You would be paying £300 in fees on a standard credit card.  You could use a 0% card with 0.5% cashback like Tandem and receive £50 back.  Alternatively, you could a premium Mastercard or Visa – at the top end, the Virgin Atlantic Reward+ card – and pay 0% in FX fees and earn 15,000 Virgin Atlantic miles.

This new Curve benefit is also a good way of helping to trigger a long term spending bonus, such as the free night on the IHG Rewards Club Premium Mastercard (requires £10,000 of spending) or the 2-4-1 vouchers on the new Virgin Atlantic credit cards (require £10,000 – £20,000 of spending).

If you were thinking of upgrading to Curve Black, I recommend doing it sooner rather than later.  This card will see a substantial change to its benefits package and fee in a few weeks, but by upgrading now you will be locking in the £50 fee for 6 months.

Curve Card 0% FX fees

What is Curve?

If you’re not familiar with Curve, this is how it works.  Curve is a Mastercard DEBIT card that recharges every purchase you make to a linked Visa or Mastercard credit or debit card.

This is why Curve Card is worth having:

You make your debit card purchase – including tax payments – using Curve Card

Curve recharges it to your linked Visa or Mastercard credit card

It goes through your linked Visa or Mastercard credit card as a purchase

It therefore earns points from your linked Visa or Mastercard

You have just earned credit card points from making a debit card transaction

And the best bit is that Curve Card is free.  In fact, it is better than free – Curve Card will pay you £5 for taking it out.

It actually gets even better, due to two additional Curve Card benefits:

You can withdraw £200 of cash per month from an ATM and have it charged to your credit card as a purchase – this means it earns miles and points.  This benefit may go away soon as credit card companies can now see what you are doing following a change in how these transactions are processed, but for now it is business as usual.

Foreign currency transactions made on Curve are recharged to your linked Visa or Mastercard in Sterling with a 0% foreign exchange adjustment as we discussed above.  This makes it a better deal than using the underlying card which is likely to have a 3% FX fee.  There ARE FX fees for transactions at weekends and if you go over £500 per month.

One thing you CANNOT do with Curve is pay a financial services institution.  As with Billhop, HMRC is NOT treated as a financial services institution so you are fine.

Curve Card has an annual payment limit of £50,000.  This is fine for most people.  You won’t get this ‘out of the box’ however – you need to use the card for a few months until your limits build up as the company begins to trust you.

The Curve Card is FREE so there is no harm in trying it.   Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.

The Curve website is here if you want to know more.  You need to download the Curve app for your phone and order a card from there if you want to try it out.

Conclusion

Depending on whether £500 per month covers your foreign currency spending or not, this new development is either a major benefit or just a small tweak to the Curve package.

If you are a heavy foreign spender who would benefit from the £15,000 per year of 0% FX spending – and you have a suitably rich Mastercard or Visa rewards card to recharge your spending to – then you may want to upgrade to Curve Black for £50.

As I said earlier, there are other fundamental improvements to Curve coming in a few weeks which will be of strong interest to Head for Points readers, so it is definitely a product to keep on your radar if you do not have one already.


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Comments (362)

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  • Mikeact says:

    Should I change the underlying card to the local currency? I’m away at present, but my card is still £, change it to $ ?

    • RTS says:

      No, unless your underlying card offers 0% FX.

    • Callum says:

      Depends on the card. I have my Lloyds card linked to it and on the rare occasion I use it I have it set to whatever the local currency is.

      If you don’t have a card with 0% FX you should keep it in £s.

    • the_real_a says:

      This is what i do – presumably moving forwards there will continue to be no limits via this route since you are not doing any FX.

  • @mkcol says:

    Is there a way to tell whether you’ve got the free or paid-for card, other than the colour of it?

    I’m sure mine was fee-free but its colour is black – colour me confused!

    • RTS says:

      You App. If you only have 3 reward partners you have the freebie one.

      • Roger1* says:

        I’ve got 4 on my ‘free’ black card – should I delete one?

      • @mkcol says:

        Thanks, I’ve a huge long list. Annoyingly I can’t see a way to contact support in-app anymore otherwise I’d have asked them.

        • Natalie says:

          go to the first tab on the app at the bottom and click on report a problem – it opens an email dialog box. message them from there

        • Matt says:

          Ahhh!

          So it’s not just me who’s lost the “contact support” facility inside the app…! 🙂

      • mr dee says:

        Don’t get the 3 reward partners means your free as there is a whole list when you click reward partners

        • Genghis says:

          I thought the free card get access to the same rewards partners, just at a lower earnings rate? 1.5% vs 3%?

        • David says:

          I’ve a black card, but never paid a fee when I took it out. My app shows a whole bunch of rewards partners, with rates of both 3% and 1.5% available, depending on card type. I think I got 3% for a transaction back in February (I never shop at partners), so would assume I have the premium card, but ???

      • RTS says:

        The freebie card only allows you to “add” 3 earning reward partners. Whereas the fee’d black card allows up to 6.

      • Alex Sm says:

        They replaced my blue one with the black one FOR FREE when I kindly asked to refund a £35 fee they charged from “early adopters” (in Amex-compatible era). But I didn’t expect to start paying £50 annual fee from next year 🙁

    • Lee says:

      So no easy way to see if you are black or blue?

      • Simon says:

        Pretty much. I’m running Android and can’t tell what version of the card I have. While the physical card is black I didn’t pay a fee, so it’s the free one? Yet all Curve info says the free one is blue! All very confusing.

    • Dan Evans says:

      They comped me a black one for free so if it’s black it’s black.

  • Chris says:

    Spoiler alert – I’m fairly confident that the major announcement in 8 weeks lime might have something to do with a financial services and charge card company with UK offices in Brighton…

    • ankomonkey says:

      Rob mentions big changes coming to the premium card benefits. I hope this doesn’t mean Brighton card use will only be possible on the fee card, only Visa/Mast on the free one…

      • Julian says:

        I suspect its very likely that Amex card recharging will only be possible on the fee based version of Curve. So I suppose its probably going up to say £100 or even £150 per annum but with the major attraction that the card you present to the retailer is always a Mastercard that is taken everywhere and by everyone.

        But if you have to pay £150 for this fee based Curve card and then £195 as well for the BA Premium Plus card that kind of gets rather expensive in card fees……………………

        Also Curve would be mad not to allow current fee free Curve card users the opportunity to upgrade to the paying card at the current rate (£50 per annum) for a limited period if they want to get any kind of decent number of subscribers for the fee based version of the card. As clearly most of us with the free card are the obvious seeding base for the fee based card once there is actually a reason to bother to start paying the fee (which there isn’t on the current fee paying version)

        • Julian says:

          Oh and just to add that the water now seems to be getting even muddier with the Lloyds Avios Rewards Card as they took another annual renew fee from me for the card for £24 in late August (my renewal date) and the nice Zimbabwean lady on the dedicated queries team about the change over in Basildon (who I have spoken to more than once) says there now seem to be some kind of rethink going on about how quickly they are shutting down the paying version of the card and it won’t necessarily happen in early November as originally expected.

          However she couldn’t offer me any clarity on how long I had to rack up another £10,000 in expenditure to earn another flight class upgrade voucher when redeeming Avios. Also the staff on the normal Lloyds Avios bill paying enquiries line have no clarity on that issue either and tried pushing me over to the Avios call centre (who obviously don’t control the issue but merely redeem the vouchers that are issued)

          However she did comment that the vast majority of people phoning in had the annual fee free Duo version of the Lloyds card and those paying for the fee based card versions of the care were the vast minority. So may be there is going to be a rethink in terms of those of us who have the fee based version of the Lloyds cards and for whom the new fee free Mastercard version of the card is clearly not good enough compared to the alternatives (eg fee free BA Amex or even the £195 annual fee based version).

        • Ken Middleton says:

          I am very interested in your comments about the Lloyds Avios Rewards Card, Julian. They took my £24 fee just last week. I have contacted them on numerous occasions and they have never been able to give me a clear answer. I too am undecided about whether to start spending to get the upgrade voucher. I really got a great deal from BA with it earlier this year. I would like to try again next year. But, of course, I don’t want to spend thousands on that card only to find that it cancelled just before i get the upgrade voucher. This was and is certainly my most useful card. If you get any further info would you please post it. Many thanks.

      • Craig says:

        But if it means I can replace my HSBC WE at £195 a year, well thats a different story.

      • Polly says:

        Worth it if fee is only £50

      • Chris says:

        I suspect it’ll be fee only for the Brighton functionality, and at a higher fee (monthly perhaps rather than annual) than currently even the black card attracts.

        Also talk of ‘extras’ like insurance, but frankly why anyone would pay for that who already has the Brighton card is beyond me.

        Also also vague talk about a metal card (so rather cheaper than the Centurion on the plus side, but if I’m not mistake, Revolut already trialled 10,000 of those to their fee paying customers?)

        Of course last week’s bombshell on MCC transparency (vis. ATM withdrawls and HMRC) makes the Brighton option slightly less exciting, but still..

    • Dwadda says:

      Now that Curve reports the type of transaction, will the underlying cc issuer honour their insurance? For example, there is car rental company at PMI that essentially gives away rental cars and hard sells insurance, but thay won’t accept my card from Brighton that would otherwise cover car rental.

      • Yuff says:

        Do you mean they won’t accept it for petrol, taxes and insurance as the one I use at PMI does take the hire charge using Amex 😉
        I pay the excess and have a platinum Amex….

      • Julian says:

        If the company at PMI airport you are talking about is Record (or possibly also Goldcar) they will take the Brighton card (i.e. Amex) as long as you take the ripoff extra full extra insurance. But I am sure their policy in this regard violates their merchant agreement with Amex where they must have agreed that all Record customers can pay with an Amex.

        Although compliance with the rules seems fairly rare in the land of the Bandito. OK Rentacar in particular commits serial theft with false damage claims against anyone at all who doesn’t buy the full insurance (something Record doesn’t do to any regulars who they reckon know the score but I believe does do with one off family types in July and August who they think they will never see again) but a few quid in the pocket of the local Policia National, Policia Local or Guardia Civil representative (never have figured all that out in terms of who does what) seems to ensure they are never prosecuted.

        Although it is hard for foreigners who don’t speak the lingo to complain anyway (and there is always the Spanish vs Catalan dilemma in Mallorca) OK seem to thieve from Spaniards from Madrid too (I have stood at their counter and seen it happening one after another as I wanted to check out if they were really as bad as all the Reviewcentre reports suggest and they are even worse than I imagined) and I would have thought a Spanish national normally knew better how to work the system (although my general observation is that customers have almost no enforceable rights with retailers in Spain and that EU Directives are widely ignored with total contempt).

        Anyway Record now has a General Manager from I think Hertz in charge and if you check their rates I think you will find the days of renting a car for 50 to 100 Euros a month but without full insurance (so you have your own policy instead) are now sadly at an end.

        • Yuff says:

          Have to say I have had no issues with goldcar or record, and have used them at least 6 times this year with another 4-5 to be booked before the end of the year.
          What more annoying is when mrs yuff goes on her own as doesn’t pay the excess and pays the full insurance ????

        • Mike says:

          Wow, you do reek of hatred now, don’t you, Julian?

      • Mikeact says:

        Easy enough to buy global hire car insurance to cover all excess charges.

        • PhilW says:

          Yes though I have been waiting for Mapfre to pay one for 5 weeks now. They haven’t even look at it.

  • BlueHorizonuk says:

    I think this Black Card issue needs clering up and quickly. Many who were on the original £35 card were offered refunds when they removed Amex but gave free upgrades to Black if we stayed. So are we on the black card that currently attracts a £50 fee or not?

    For a fintech they are not very communicative.

    Not sure announcing something through Head for Points (which has been picked up by other blogs) is really acceptable (no offence to you Rob). A email of some kind should have been ready to go overnight seeing as they knew (I presume) that Rob would publish this news today.

    • Alastair says:

      Not helpful but – as one of the original £35 payers, I read this comment and felt angry that I hadn’t been given the black one, I always remembered the card to be blue. However I recently got and have been using the updated debit one, and having actually checked it, it looks black!
      I don’t think I’ve paid the fee and have had it for a couple of years, time to start making the most of it…

      • Owen Rudge says:

        I signed up to the original £35 Blue card. My debit card replacement is physically black, but I still earn rewards at the blue rate (e.g. 1.5% at Argos, not 3%), so I assume I don’t have the black card privileges.

    • Marie says:

      Hi,
      That you for putting this clearly on our radar. I’ve passed the feedback onto our product team. We will make it possible for you to check whether you have a Blue or Black card account in the app.

      • David says:

        Is HfP an official support channel for Curve now?!

        • Julian says:

          HfP always seems to have been a commission earning official reseller of the Curve product so it seems logical the company would provide customer support directly on this website too…..

          • Rob says:

            Curve appears to be just over 2% of our revenue this year, looking at the numbers. Hardly moves the needle.

    • Alex Sm says:

      Same question here!

  • Scottydogg says:

    I applied for the free card yesterday , but i’m about 800th in line , anyone know how long this takes ?

  • Jack says:

    Question for the HMRC / Self Assessment crowd.

    This’ll be my first time paying HMRC directly. I’m hoping to pay via Curve (assuming the changes in 8 weeks have nothing to do with HMRC), but it looks like the amount to pay is higher than my Curve limit.

    Do HMRC let you pay by debit card in multiple transactions or do you have to pick another method like bank transfer if you can’t pay it all in one go?

    Depending on that answer I’ll either be paying 2 transactions with VS card via Curve, or opening a tesco account and settling for VS miles via clubcard points, if there’s no better alternative.

    • Julian says:

      Although I don’t run a self employed business I’m pretty sure you can pay HMRC any amount you like multiple times.

      The thing that determines whether you get a penalty or pay interest is whether you file the return by the required deadline (for avoiding the penalty) or still owe them any money after the deadline (in terms of interest being charged).

      But why not ask HMRC and ask them as I’m sure they will be able to tell you.

      Curve limits often don’t seem to be enforced. For instance if I take out £400 of cash in the UK in a month they still don’t levy any fees on the second card withdrawal. No doubt they would on someone who withdrew £2,000 a month.

    • Daniel says:

      Do multiple payments based on what your daily limit is, works fine.

      • Daz says:

        Can confirm, have done this for a while now.

      • Natalie says:

        Works a treat. Easy.

      • Leo says:

        As per what Daniel says. I sometimes pay over a few days up to the daily curve limit. Income tax and VAT. You do have to have had your curve card up and actually running for a bit though as Rob says.

    • Alex W says:

      @jack I paid HMRC in 2 card transactions last year, no issues. Got me 2x IHG free nights

      • Mr. K says:

        Whoa, how much was the bill? 100K?

        • Rob says:

          £20k would get you two IHG nights if you were triggering the ‘free night for £10k spend’ bonus across two cards.

        • Alex W says:

          It was actually £20k on one card across 2 transactions:
          20k sign-up bonus
          40k points from spending £20k
          Free night voucher for £10k spend.

          As the points are elite qualifying Mrs W also managed to hit Spire Elite by year end.

          I had to have a fight with my solicitor though as they were adamant they had to pay the stamp duty on my behalf via bank transfer. I ignored them and sent the receipts once I’d paid. Required me to order a special form though from HMRC… will email the details to Rob at some point.

    • Rob says:

      Multiple transactions on the SAME card are ok.

  • Sol says:

    Hi,
    Can somebody explain the difference between the Curve and Revolut?
    Or are they the same product?

    Thanks

    • Zana711 says:

      Revolut is effectively a prepaid Mastercard that needs topping up. Curve is not a “card” in itself and requires that you link your Curve to an underlying debit or credit card for the transactions to go through. You can link and unlink cards using the Curve app.

      • Pangolin says:

        They issue VISA cards too. It’s pot luck as to which one you’ll get when you order a new Basic card, but with the Premium service you always get M/C.

    • Yab says:

      But as Harry said best to stick yo gold and MR

    • Mikeact says:

      For goodness sake, do a search on here before asking.

  • Charley Whiskey says:

    Very odd that the Curve website still says they will charge 1% on overseas spend. ……

    • Julian says:

      Nothing new here.

      The Lloyds Rewards card application page could still be foun for some weeks for those who knew where it was, even after Lloyds had removed the marketing and link for it from their main credit cards page.

      It just often takes a while for all the bits of the operation to catch up with the changes initiated by the eager but usually not detail oriented marketing men.

    • Marie says:

      Hi Charley,
      Thank you for spotting it. We have now updated the webpage.

      • Julian says:

        So clearly HfP is an official point of customer service for Cuve as well as an official retail channel for signups to the card………..

        • BlueHorizonuk says:

          Calm down mate. Not sure you can regulate who visits this site and who doesn’t. Your ire should be directed to Curve (who are possibly on here to gauge the reaction of their changes).

          If you don’t like something then either delete the email straight away or go the hundreds of US blogs who hawk their credit card wares on every single line of every single article without disclosing that they are actually owned by said credit card companies. Hardly independent.

      • Andrew L says:

        Be careful what you say here…..Big Brother Curve are watching!! lol

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