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Why even peak-time Economy Avios redemptions have become poor value

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The general mantra about using airline miles, especially those like Avios which impose hefty fuel surcharges, goes like this – ‘redeeming for Economy flights is a waste of miles’.

In general, of course, this is true.  If you try to use Lufthansa Miles & More miles for an economy short-haul flight from Heathrow to Frankfurt, it wants £82 in tax – plus an astonishing 35,000 miles – for an economy short-haul redemption, a truly ludicrous figure.

British Airways managed to knock this problem on the head for short-haul redemptions by introducing Reward Flight SaverBA rarely gets the credit it deserves for being the only European airline to tackle the problem of ‘taxes and charges’ on short haul.

By capping taxes on European flights at £35 in Economy / Euro Traveller, you will usually be getting around 1p per Avios of value.  This is ‘real’ value as you would otherwise have bought the ticket for cash – not ‘finger in the air’ value based on some notional value of how much you would pay for a business class seat.

Is it true that long haul economy redemptions are a terrible use of Avios?

Almost three years ago, I ran an interesting experiment which showed that – in many cases – redeeming Avios for peak season Economy / World Traveller long haul flights was often decent value.  Not every route, by a long way, but there were some deals to be had.  The widely held view that all long haul Economy redemptions are rubbish was wrong.

Today I thought we would see what has changed.  The answer is ‘quite a lot’ – and not in a good way.

Here is a sample of British Airways pricing from their Low Fare Finder tool.

These are the CHEAPEST Economy return tickets available during August 2019 at the present time.  Remember that these flights may be at inconvenient times or inconvenient days of the week.  In reality, the flights most convenient for you may be pricier, so it is possible that in reality the results will not be as bad.  These are also ‘hand baggage only’ fares, and Avios tickets come with a free suitcase.

I compare the cash cost to the ‘Avios plus taxes’ cost.  To be fair to BA, I only looked at flights departing between 1st August and 24th August 2019.  Prices tend to dip in late August because of the Bank Holiday but this is too late for anyone with children who return to school in the first week of September.

New York – £428 or 40,000 Avios + £375

Miami – £499 or 50,000 Avios + £375

Las Vegas – £709 or 50,000 Avios + £375

San Francisco – £481 or 50,000 Avios + £375

Barbados – £574 or 50,000 Avios + £336

Mumbai – £609 or 50,000 Avios + £324

Hong Kong – £719 or 60,000 Avios + £347

Singapore – £598 or 70,000 Avios + £362

The ‘pence per Avios’ score comes out like this:

New York – 0.13p

Miami – 0.25p

Las Vegas – 0.67p

San Francisco – 0.21p

Barbados – 0.48p

Mumbai – 0.57p

Hong Kong – 0.62p

Singapore – 0.47p

British Airways 777 300ER

Have long haul Avios redemptions always been such poor value?

No.

I ran this same example almost three years ago.  In general:

the price of cash flights is generally the same or a little lower on most routes (I am comparing August 2016 flights booked in March 2016 vs August 2019 flights booked in January 2019)

the taxes and charges on economy redemptions have crept up by about £75 for the US and £35 elsewhere

More importantly:

in 2017, BA made ALL of August ‘peak’ in terms of redemption pricing.  Until then, ALL Tuesday and Wednesday flights were treated as ‘off peak’ irrespective of the month.  Here is the 2019 peak and off-peak Avios calendar.  This makes a MASSIVE difference.  New York, for example, jumps from 26000 Avios – if you could have travelled on a Tuesday or Wednesday in August – to 40000 Avios.

The net result is that using Avios for BA Economy flights has become substantially poorer value over the last couple of years.  When I ran this test in March 2016 I concluded that we had potentially been unfair in writing off all economy redemptions as poor value.  Today, I am less convinced.

The list below compares:

the value per Avios for a BA economy flight for travel 1-24th August 2019 (taking the lowest BA cash fare on sale in January 2019 and using peak rate Avios pricing as August is now ‘all peak’)

versus

the value per Avios for a BA Economy flight in August 2016 (taking the lowest BA cash fare on sale in March 2016 and assuming the Avios redemption was done on a Tuesday or Wednesday to pay the off-peak rate)

There are three caveats to this data:

Cash pricing is for ‘hand baggage only’ fares, so the Avios option improves if you are taking luggage

Avios tickets are refundable for a £35 fee whilst cash tickets are non-refundable

On the other hand, cash tickets will earn Avios back when you fly

Here we go:

New York – August 2019 value per Avios: 0.13p   August 2016 value per Avios: 0.50p

Miami – August 2019 value per Avios: 0.25p   August 2016 value per Avios: 0.74p

Las Vegas – August 2019 value per Avios: 0.67p   August 2016 value per Avios: 1.37p

San Francisco – August 2019 value per Avios: 0.21p   August 2016 value per Avios: 0.92p

Barbados – August 2019 value per Avios: 0.48p   August 2016 value per Avios: 0.91p

Mumbai – August 2019 value per Avios: 0.57p   August 2016 value per Avios: 0.75p

Hong Kong – August 2019 value per Avios: 0.62p  August 2016 value per Avios: 1.28p

Singapore – August 2019 value per Avios: 0.47p  August 2016 value per Avios: 0.60p

This is shocking.  Not just in terms of the appalling ‘pence per Avios’ value received – even the ‘best’ route I looked at doesn’t come close to a level where I could justify redeeming, unless I wanted flexibility to cancel – but also how the value has been slowly chipped away.

Like a frog boiling in a saucepan, the combination of:

flat or lower cash fares, partly from the launch of ‘hand baggage only’ on long haul

higher taxes and charges on Economy redemptions, and

the removal of off-peak Avios dates during August

…. has cumulatively crept up on us without being fully noticed.  It has wiped out much of the value of the Avios scheme for the ‘average’ customer looking to redeem during the school holiday for long haul economy flights.

Of course, on certain higher priced dates and factoring in luggage fees, the value you get can be a lot better but the base line valuation for long haul Economy redemptions is now pretty darn low.


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You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

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Comments (165)

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  • Andrew says:

    Rob – I’d be interested in your views on using economy long haul redemption at peak time with Amex 241 ….
    For example last year I flew with the family over Christmas using 2×241 LHR-JNB when the cash fare was 1400. As a GCH I was able to easily get 4 economy seats, and saved a lot of money… Over 9p per Avios…

  • Alastair says:

    Happy New Year All! – From a snowy Finland.
    This article was interesting to me – as I mentioned to some at the Christmas party, work arrangements have landed me with a free second week of January by myself and I wanted to take a trip somewhere for a few days…
    In the end I’ve booked Boston, usign a combination of Virigin and BA, BA as a redemption in economy. The pricing worked out as 13 000 Avios + £160 WT (no availablility in CW or WTP) one way back from the states, and 17 500 + £330 Virgin Premium on the way there. For cash though, BA wanted about £1200+ for the same dates in Jan (booked the week before Christmas) return in economy. Obviously there was no way I’d pay that so I can’t claim to have gotten this in value from the avios, but for me this lesiure trip did become possible through using the redemption – so I would put higher value on the points because of this. I regulary tell others that economy redemptions are not the smartest use based on the solid numbers in this article, and I felt strange going against this, but occasionally they can be a useful tool. That said I’m aware what I was doing was atypical and the value is completely qualitative.
    I’m also a Virgin, erm, Virgin, and am worryingly excited to try out their Premium offering 😉

    • TripRep says:

      That’s a big cash saving over BA, hope you like VS PE, I rate the product quite highly, esp. for a day flight.

      Did you investigate any US carriers for redemptions from Boston, like Delta/AA/United and/or Aer Lingus?

      • Alastair says:

        Thanks – yes I’ve heard good things so very excited to try it out.
        I did have a look into Aer Lingus but sadly they had no availabilty, and also there was only one flight that I could’ve realistically made work with the timings. Similarly for American although I think they had some PE availability but would’ve meant changing in NYC – I nearly went for it actually though but in the end didn’t think it’d be worth the hassle.
        I didn’t think to look into Delta and United, to be honest most of my travel has been to the east or in Europe so I don’t really have them on my radar, but thanks for the tip and I’ll definitely give them a look in the future.

    • Lev441 says:

      Happy new year! Enjoy your trip to the states, glad you got something booked!

      • Alastair says:

        Cheers Lev, hope you’re having a great christmas and new year!

    • Polly says:

      Glad you got a trip booked. Nothing like nyc and Boston around Xmas and new year time. Great atsmosphere everywhere, pubs, shops, restaurants etc.
      Our take on Y avios is TATL example, very useful for last minute dash to SFO, friend had v ill relative. Cash price was £1100, she got it on avios, so very worth while redemption. Think it was a days notice or something. Plus v useful for RFS last minute notice trips too. Best value there, l think in any FFP.
      Didn’t think AY was as flexible as BA on RFS, whoever mentioned it, tho.

      • Alastair says:

        Thanks Polly! Yes really looking forward to it – happy new year, hope to see you again at the summer party 😀

  • RyanAirs says:

    Rob and everyone, I’d appreciate some S uggestions on how to get best value from 100,000 FC miles and a 2-4-1 (Red Tier). It’s for two weeks with partner. Low taxes etc and long haul comfort being key. Thanks all!

    • TripRep says:

      Unless VS buy FlyBE we are unlikely to see zero tax redemption opportunities

      Some thoughts…
      2x Delta One Suite o/w off peak from NYC to Dublin for 100k + $10

      1x Virgin off peak UC rtn to Florida for 95k miles + £500
      Buy PE for yourself and treat you partner to UC, join them for dinner at their seat and/or a drink at the bar if you ask permission from the VS FSM

      .

    • Doug M says:

      What do want, sun, beaches, city? Isn’t much better to go somewhere you want, and do something you like, as opposed to spending two weeks somewhere random congratulating yourself on some perceived value per mile? I can only speak for myself but in my experience 2 weeks of hotel costs will make any value from those miles seem a lot less.

    • RyanAirs says:

      Thanks for those ideas. Asia comes to mind. Or west coast of states. I hear people getting all kinds of value but it seems to be about buying cheap economy fares and using miles to upgrade. I suppose I’m also wondering about redemptions with other Virgin partners.

      • Lady London says:

        Remember that British Airways will only let you upgrade 1 class. So if you want to upgrade to J you already have to be in PY not Y.

        Work round with award tickets is that you can cancel legs at cost of £35 and rebook J award seat when available, at no more total miles cost than you would have paid using miles to upgrade.

  • Paul says:

    Happy New Year all
    On the subject of Economy to New York, why is Virgin approx £100 less than BA in taxes etc ?
    Surely taxes are taxes
    Or is BA just greedy ?
    PJJ

    • TripRep says:

      Detail the “Taxes” here please and we’ll tell you.

      • Paul says:

        Appears ‘taxes, fees & charges’ for both BA and Virgin are only a few pounds different, however, BA ‘Carrier Imposed Charges’ are £200.00 whereas Virgins are £100.00
        SAYS IT ALL REALLY
        Greedy BA

    • Polly says:

      Difference is greedy BA surcharges which they keep..

    • Lady London says:

      Clue: I call those so-called taxes the ‘carrier greed’ charge.

      It comes to something when the so-called ‘taxes’ demanded by British Airways for people to use their award miles, are even more than the full cash price of an Economy ticket. As illustrated by Rob’s examples in this article today.

  • Alan says:

    OT (no Bits) – reminder to cancel Virgin Life Insurance D/Ds – T&Cs required 6 consecutive monthly payments and for many of us that has now happened. Points due 60 days from 6th payment.

    • Optimus Prime says:

      Are you going to cancel asap or wait till points are posted?

      • Alan says:

        T&Cs seem pretty clear in what they say so can’t see an issue with cancelling D/D, what are others thinking?

        • Tom1 says:

          At £1 per month I’m tempted to leave it until I get the points. But you’re right, the t&C’s are clear.

          I did something similar with Beagle Street recently and they declined initially because I had cancelled my policy despite paying the required number of payments. They paid out in the end, but the hassle factor isn’t with £2-3 extra in my view.

        • Liz says:

          I paid my 6th one at the beg of Dec but decided to wait till the points post – only paying £1.17 and £1.97 so worth it I feel.

      • Matt says:

        At 78p per month, I’m keeping mine going until the points have posted. Also I need to take advantage of the will writing service.

    • Mr(s) Entitled says:

      £1 a month for £20k coverage. I’m going to keep mine going. Hardly seems worth the agro of cancelling.

  • Steve R says:

    Living north of Watford Gap the only time we use London Airways is during the summer hols & RFS.
    The cost of the petrol and the tedium of that car park to get to LGW is more than covered by the price you would pay a LCC for the suitcases about £20 each way per suitcase alone
    Going west, is Virgin all the way

  • FlyUpTop says:

    I found WT fares to MLE back in Feb to be £1550 for 2 x RTN. Avios redemption – 50k + £550 taxes, surely this is good value…

    • Polly says:

      And it wouldn’t be a bad use of a 241 either, in that case, as you can see the actual saving in this case.

    • Alex W says:

      Poor value. You are using 100k Avios to save £450 = 0.45p per Avio. Even with 241, less than 1p per Avio.

  • @mkcol says:

    Finding it hard to book BA given the following results for a trip planned to IAD on 9th October for 10 nights:

    BA HBO £561.02
    BA with bag £641.02
    Avios with bag £375.32 + 33000 points

    OS (operated by UA) HBO £336.62
    OS with bag £446.02

    KL/AF (from BHX) HBO £377 or with bag £457.52

    However if I whack the equivalent seating & fast track onto the OS/UA option that I can get with my BA Gold then the fare goes up to £777.

    Does that now “value” my 33000 Avios at £331 or £402?

    • @mkcol says:

      If I’ve got my valuation right, then maybe I will be booking BA after all!

      • TGLoyalty says:

        Cash on ba with a bag booked with amex plat with £200 off £600 spend.

        That’s just me though 🙂

        • @mkcol says:

          I don’t have that offer on AMEX.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          Then id chose the best direct route.

          If your dates are firm then seems a waste to use Avios.

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