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Curve Card relaunches (Part 2)

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This is Part 2 of my article about the new Curve Card subscription plans which launched on Monday.  Part 1, which reviews the flagship Curve Metal product, is here.

To summarise the changes:

The basic Curve Card remains FREE – in fact Curve will pay you £5 for trying it out if you use my referral code of OQB4J

Curve Black costs £9.99 per month and allows £1,000 per month of free American Express top-ups (0.65% thereafter)

Curve Metal costs £14.99 per month or £150 per year and has unlimited American Express top-ups, a choice of three cool metal cards to choose from and some travel and insurance benefits

(EDIT:  A couple of days after this article ran, American Express withdrew from Curve.  This article is now only useful as a history lesson.  Our most recent introductory article on Curve, reflecting the split with Amex, is here.)

What are the three different type of Curve Card?

Part 1 explained what Curve Card is all about and reviewed the £14.99 per month Curve Metal card.  In this review I will look at Curve Black and the free Curve Blue.

Are you an existing Curve Black cardholder?  If so, you will get three months of ‘new’ Curve Black membership for free (see 4.2.1 of the T&C’s).  People who were on the Amex ‘beta’ trial will get six months.  After that you can either switch to a subscription or you can drop back the ‘old’ set of Curve Black benefits with no fee.  Alternatively you can upgrade to Curve Metal and get four months for free, but in this scenario you lose the option to drop back to a free ‘old’ Black card.

What are the features of Curve Black?

This Curve website compares the three different types of Curve Card.

Fee: £9.99 per month, no annual option

Card:  Plastic, not metal

Availability:  UK and various other EEA countries

Amex usage cap:  £1000 per month for free, with a 0.65% fee thereafter

Foreign exchange fees:  Unlimited transactions with no fee (0.5% fee $ or € and 1.5% fee for other currencies applies to transactions made on a Saturday or Sunday)

ATM withdrawals:  Overseas: £400 per month for free, 2% thereafter (can only be charged to a Visa or Mastercard) / UK: 10 free withdrawals per month (max £200 per day, fair use policy applies), 50p fee thereafter

These are the key benefits.  There are other benefits which I do not value highly but which some readers may find useful:

Travel insurance underwritten by AXA  (this looks OK, and with an age limit of 70, although the rules are stricter than many policies in terms of, for example, sports you may not play on holiday. Baggage and personal belongings are not covered for Black cardholders.)

Gadget insurance (maximum value £800 with a £50 excess)

1% cashback from six premium retailers for the first 90 days of membership.  This is on top of the rewards you will earn from your underlying card.

This card has the possibility to be attractive to Head for Points readers.  Let’s look at a couple of key areas:

Your ATM withdrawals (10 per month in the UK for free, £400-worth per month in foreign currency) will earn you miles and points on any underlying Visa or Mastercard.  This will also count towards spend-based bonuses on those cards.  This can offset a lot of the annual fee.

You can charge all of your foreign spending to a miles or points earning card – including an Amex – whilst paying 0% FX fees, which should lead to a sharp increase in your points earning

You can charge some day-to-day debit card spending to Curve and turn it into spend which earns miles, points and ‘spend-related target bonuses’

However, I would argue that Curve Metal is a better package than Curve Black.

Is Curve Metal worth paying £2.50 to £5 per month more than Curve Black?

That’s a good question.  If you pre-pay for Curve Metal at £150, the difference in cost is only £30 per year or £2.50 per month.  For your extra £2.50, you get:

  • Unlimited Amex usage (Curve Black is capped at £1000 per month for free and charges 0.65% afterwards)
  • CDW car rental insurance (not part of Black)
  • £600 vs £400 of free overseas ATM withdrawals (this in itself is worth £1 or so in extra Visa or Mastercard rewards)
  • Travel insurance includes lost baggage and personal belongings (Curve Black does not)
  • No ability to pay £15 per visit for LoungeKey airport lounge access

You also get the novelty of a metal card. On this basis, I think Curve Metal justifies the extra fee.

Finally, let’s look at the free Curve Blue card.

What are the features of Curve Blue?

Curve Blue is free – free to apply and free to operate.  American Express usage is charged, but for low spenders you may find it cheaper overall than paying the monthly fee for Curve Black or Curve Metal.

This page of the Curve website compares the free different types of Curve Card.

Fee: None

Card:  Plastic, not metal

Availability:  UK and various other EEA countries

Amex usage cap:  No free Amex usage – you pay a 0.65% fee on each transaction

Foreign exchange fees:  £500 per month for no fee (0.5% fee $ or € and 1.5% fee for other currencies applies to transactions made on a Saturday or Sunday) with a 2% fee thereafter

ATM withdrawals:  Overseas: £200 per month for free, 2% thereafter (can only be charged to a Visa or Mastercard) / UK: 10 free withdrawals per month (max £200 per day, fair use policy applies), 50p fee thereafter

1% cashback from six retailers for the first 90 days of membership.  This is on top of the rewards you will earn from your underlying card.

One key Curve feature is unchanged, however.  Even users of the free Curve Blue can pay any debit card bill and have it recharged as a purchase for free to a linked Visa or Mastercard.  There are no usage limits except for the day / month / annual limits imposed by Curve which are increased as you become ‘trustworthy’.  It is only Amex transactions which are charged.

A free Curve Blue holder can also do 1 x £200 free overseas ATM withdrawal each month and pick up a few points for free on their linked Visa or Mastercard.  You get the same allowance of UK ATM withdrawals (10 per month for free) as Black and Metal cardholders.

Charges only kick in when you start recharging purchases to an American Express card.  For a lot of HFP readers, the free Curve Blue will be good enough.  If you find yourself needing to charge a few thousand pounds of Visa or Mastercard debit or credit card spend to your Amex to, for example, hit the BA Premium Plus Amex 2-4-1 voucher, you can do so for just £6.50 per £1,000.  Unless and until you do this, there is no charge for getting or using Curve Blue.

If you value all of the ‘extras’ attached to Curve Metal at £zero, you could recharge £23,000 per year to an Amex via Curve Blue at £6.50 per £1,000 before it becomes cheaper to have Curve Metal at £150 per year.

Conclusion

The ability to recharge your Visa or Mastercard debit or credit card payments to an American Express card is, for many HfP readers, a game changer.

That said, Curve is doing its best to annoy people with odd little rules which also make the product unreasonably complex.  The 0.5%-1.5% weekend FX surcharge, for example, means that it may still make sense to have a separate 0% FX fees credit card in your wallet.  Stripping luggage and personal possessions coverage from the Black travel insurance will remove the value for many people.  Having different ATM rules for UK and overseas transactions is another unnecessary complication.

To be honest I am not overwhelmed by the benefits of Curve Black and I’m not sure it will survive long term.  If you pre-pay for Curve Metal then it is only £2.50 per month more than Curve Black and the extra benefits are well worth that.

At the other end of the scale, Curve Blue remains freeBlue is a risk-free introduction to Curve and you can easily upgrade via the app to Curve Black or Curve Metal if you choose to do so at a later date.  A lot of HfP readers will be perfectly fine with the free card, preferring to ‘pay as they go’ for American Express transactions. 

If you will recharge less than £20,000 per year onto your American Express card via Curve then – if you don’t need the travel insurance, CDW car rental waiver, the ‘cool’ value of having a metal card in your wallet and the 0% Monday-Friday FX fees benefit – free Curve Blue is probably good enough.

How to apply for your Curve Card (free if you choose Blue)

Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.

I am interested to see how the new-look Curve Card goes down with the wider market.  For miles and points people like us, especially those in thrall to American Express products, it is great.  It remains to be seen how it goes down outside our circle.


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Comments (299)

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  • Anna says:

    I’m sticking with the free card as I don’t need any of the paid benefits. I had to re-install the app and sign in to my account, but I can now add Amex cards. I’ve just done a top up and paid OVO Energy with it which all seemed to go through smoothly. Aiming to trigger a sign up bonus by close of business today!

    • Nick_C says:

      I will be sticking with Blue as well.

      The ability to pay Council Tax etc will be useful for hitting sign up bonuses, but I wouldn’t be using it otherwise. I pay my utility DDs from a Santander 123 Lite account, so paying my Council Tax with Amex/Curve will cost me 1.65%, and paying Ovo would cost me 2.65%. So as you say, good for achieving sign up bonus, and cheaper than BillHop, but not necessarily always the best way to pay utility bills.

      • RTS says:

        You can actually pay CTax with your Amex card direct via paypoint @ Coop.

        • Mark2 says:

          at our council, but not all

        • Nick_C says:

          Our Council offers payment with an “Allpay” card. I’ve only just realised this means you can pay at a Paypoint! (Why they advertise it as Allpay when Paypoint is much better known is a mystery).

      • Anna says:

        How would paying OVO cost you 2.65%?

        • Alan says:

          I’m guessing they mean because they’d miss out on 1% from their Santander 123 Lite account?

        • BJ says:

          Except, like me, most people probablh use their CT amex payments at co-op to hit one or more spend targets. The points/miles those yield far outweigh the financial value of Santander 123 benefits for paying any UK CT bill.

  • EvilDoctorK says:

    Are the fee free foreign exchange purchases on the basic curve card per rolling 30days or per calendar month ? .. I guess calendar month but anyone know for sure ?

  • Samuel says:

    This sounds interesting: So would I be able to pay my rent using this card? It’s a sizeable chunk of my outgoings so if I can get my Amex spending going up (and get the Avios that come with it), it seems an interesting proposition. So if I go to a shop that does not take Amex, I can use this card and it will be charged to my Amex?

    • John says:

      1 – Yes, if your landlord accepts debit cards.

      2- Yes, but remember the fee, you are actually spending money to buy avios at 0.65p each (and technically borrowing money from Amex to do it)

      • Docklandsguy says:

        Your 0.65p per avios assumes you hvae the free Amex, otherwise it comes to 0.43p…

        • John says:

          Only if the £195 is a sunk cost, and I admit I did make an assumption based on the wording of the question

        • Alex says:

          @John, the 195 GBP fee is sunk when you trigger your 2-4-1 (in my calculations anyway). Return to US West Coast you would save 180k Avios, so that would be 1.8k in the 1ppA valuation.

        • John says:

          Depends if you need Curve to trigger it

    • Rob says:

      This obviously assumes you are paying your rent by debit card now – you would need a corporate landlord to be able to do this. You cannot make a payment directly into someones bank account via a debit card (and even if you could – and some savings accounts let you top up via your own debit card – Curve is blocked for that).

      • MD says:

        You can top up Revolut using Curve to get points on your credit card, and can then make bank transfers from your Revolut account like a normal bank account, so you could pay your rent that way 😉

        • John says:

          Have you tried it with Curve-Amex?

          You can just top up revolut directly with V/MC which is what I’ve been doing for things I can only pay by bank transfer….

        • MD says:

          It’s being inconsistent with Amex. It definitely worked previously when I was in the beta. Took out a new SPG Amex, topped up Curve by the necessary 1k to hit the spend and immediately transferred that to Revolut with no issues. Also worked for a few hundred on my Gold. But I’m trying again now and it keeps failing, with Revolut saying “insufficient funds”. Not sure if it’s a temporary bug (it did that a couple of times before, then subsequently worked), or if Curve are now blocking it deliberately.

        • tartan says:

          Been on the beta for the past 5 days and couldn’t top-up Revolut using Curve when linked to Amex – kept getting the “insufficent funds message” too

        • Alan says:

          Although I suspect you may find Revolut block you if you keep doing that…

  • Neil says:

    Hey Rob, any more information on the Curve limits with the Black & metal cards? I appreciate this is a game changer however it’s a slippery slope once you start chasing the rabbit down the hole (In other words paying for points). Does anyone know if Curve will refund your Amex if you accidentally load it with £10k and struggle to spend it all?

    • Rob says:

      Curve told me that the limits are NOT driven by card type. Someone with the same spending history on Blue and Metal will in theory see the same changes in limits.

      • Neil says:

        Thank you!

      • Mr Dee says:

        For those that are maxed out they will need to up the limits before any upgrade

        • Jon says:

          Exactly. I will message Curve saying that I am thinking about Metal and requesting a limit increase as I am over 48k already. Whether I stay with the free one or upgrade depends on what limit they can go to.

  • VinZ says:

    I have an old black card (paid £50) and I’ve asked to stay with the legacy benefits, ie. the old benefits before 28th Jan 19. This includes same charges for Amex top-ups as a free blue card. I did the same maths you did and I thought it wouldn’t be convenient to swap to metal/new black!

    • pommy ray says:

      yes I think you are right I can’t see many differences for 10pds a month.
      also the lloyds amex could get pulled so that makes the whole thing shaky for me.

  • Johnny Tabasco says:

    All very interesting. Looking forward to all the comments and inevitable problems that now raise their heads!
    Worth noting I am a current Black holder and haven’t been allocated the new Black for a 3 month period. Looks like it’s gone straight to Blue, so perhaps it’s not across the board.

    • Alan says:

      Are you definitely a current Black cardholder though? Quite a few folks received black cards when moving from prepaid to personal debit cards but a lot still had Blue accounts.

    • Russ says:

      It’s a relatively new offering Johnny Tabasco so perhaps queries that need ironing out rather than problems at this stage.

  • Rob H says:

    Great Review Rob – Long time reader (first post) – excellent site! (Is there a form to post suggested articles for the future?)

    I’m interested by the following comment:

    “Even users of the free Curve Blue can pay any debit card bill and have it recharged as a purchase for free to a linked Visa or Mastercard.”

    So do you think it would work to be able to pay my AMEX bill via the AMEX website using the Curve (Free) card linked to my IHG Mastercard – and get both the AMEX points for the original spend and then the IHG points for paying the AMEX bill? (Without spending a penny extra to Curve?)

    Thanks – Rob (another Rob!)

    • Rob H says:

      Just reading Part one (that has just appeared above this one in the list) and spotted:

      “The only exception is that you are not allowed to use your Curve Card to pay a credit card bill, unless your Curve Card is linked to a debit card.”

      So I think that answers the question! 🙁

  • Luke Atkinson says:

    Can you use this debit card to charge your tax bill?

    • Rob says:

      Yes. You always could pay HMRC with Curve even before this upgrade. The only issue is the daily / monthly limits Curve places on you.

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