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Curve Card relaunches (Part 2)

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This is Part 2 of my article about the new Curve Card subscription plans which launched on Monday.  Part 1, which reviews the flagship Curve Metal product, is here.

To summarise the changes:

The basic Curve Card remains FREE – in fact Curve will pay you £5 for trying it out if you use my referral code of OQB4J

Curve Black costs £9.99 per month and allows £1,000 per month of free American Express top-ups (0.65% thereafter)

Curve Metal costs £14.99 per month or £150 per year and has unlimited American Express top-ups, a choice of three cool metal cards to choose from and some travel and insurance benefits

(EDIT:  A couple of days after this article ran, American Express withdrew from Curve.  This article is now only useful as a history lesson.  Our most recent introductory article on Curve, reflecting the split with Amex, is here.)

What are the three different type of Curve Card?

Part 1 explained what Curve Card is all about and reviewed the £14.99 per month Curve Metal card.  In this review I will look at Curve Black and the free Curve Blue.

Are you an existing Curve Black cardholder?  If so, you will get three months of ‘new’ Curve Black membership for free (see 4.2.1 of the T&C’s).  People who were on the Amex ‘beta’ trial will get six months.  After that you can either switch to a subscription or you can drop back the ‘old’ set of Curve Black benefits with no fee.  Alternatively you can upgrade to Curve Metal and get four months for free, but in this scenario you lose the option to drop back to a free ‘old’ Black card.

What are the features of Curve Black?

This Curve website compares the three different types of Curve Card.

Fee: £9.99 per month, no annual option

Card:  Plastic, not metal

Availability:  UK and various other EEA countries

Amex usage cap:  £1000 per month for free, with a 0.65% fee thereafter

Foreign exchange fees:  Unlimited transactions with no fee (0.5% fee $ or € and 1.5% fee for other currencies applies to transactions made on a Saturday or Sunday)

ATM withdrawals:  Overseas: £400 per month for free, 2% thereafter (can only be charged to a Visa or Mastercard) / UK: 10 free withdrawals per month (max £200 per day, fair use policy applies), 50p fee thereafter

These are the key benefits.  There are other benefits which I do not value highly but which some readers may find useful:

Travel insurance underwritten by AXA  (this looks OK, and with an age limit of 70, although the rules are stricter than many policies in terms of, for example, sports you may not play on holiday. Baggage and personal belongings are not covered for Black cardholders.)

Gadget insurance (maximum value £800 with a £50 excess)

1% cashback from six premium retailers for the first 90 days of membership.  This is on top of the rewards you will earn from your underlying card.

This card has the possibility to be attractive to Head for Points readers.  Let’s look at a couple of key areas:

Your ATM withdrawals (10 per month in the UK for free, £400-worth per month in foreign currency) will earn you miles and points on any underlying Visa or Mastercard.  This will also count towards spend-based bonuses on those cards.  This can offset a lot of the annual fee.

You can charge all of your foreign spending to a miles or points earning card – including an Amex – whilst paying 0% FX fees, which should lead to a sharp increase in your points earning

You can charge some day-to-day debit card spending to Curve and turn it into spend which earns miles, points and ‘spend-related target bonuses’

However, I would argue that Curve Metal is a better package than Curve Black.

Is Curve Metal worth paying £2.50 to £5 per month more than Curve Black?

That’s a good question.  If you pre-pay for Curve Metal at £150, the difference in cost is only £30 per year or £2.50 per month.  For your extra £2.50, you get:

  • Unlimited Amex usage (Curve Black is capped at £1000 per month for free and charges 0.65% afterwards)
  • CDW car rental insurance (not part of Black)
  • £600 vs £400 of free overseas ATM withdrawals (this in itself is worth £1 or so in extra Visa or Mastercard rewards)
  • Travel insurance includes lost baggage and personal belongings (Curve Black does not)
  • No ability to pay £15 per visit for LoungeKey airport lounge access

You also get the novelty of a metal card. On this basis, I think Curve Metal justifies the extra fee.

Finally, let’s look at the free Curve Blue card.

What are the features of Curve Blue?

Curve Blue is free – free to apply and free to operate.  American Express usage is charged, but for low spenders you may find it cheaper overall than paying the monthly fee for Curve Black or Curve Metal.

This page of the Curve website compares the free different types of Curve Card.

Fee: None

Card:  Plastic, not metal

Availability:  UK and various other EEA countries

Amex usage cap:  No free Amex usage – you pay a 0.65% fee on each transaction

Foreign exchange fees:  £500 per month for no fee (0.5% fee $ or € and 1.5% fee for other currencies applies to transactions made on a Saturday or Sunday) with a 2% fee thereafter

ATM withdrawals:  Overseas: £200 per month for free, 2% thereafter (can only be charged to a Visa or Mastercard) / UK: 10 free withdrawals per month (max £200 per day, fair use policy applies), 50p fee thereafter

1% cashback from six retailers for the first 90 days of membership.  This is on top of the rewards you will earn from your underlying card.

One key Curve feature is unchanged, however.  Even users of the free Curve Blue can pay any debit card bill and have it recharged as a purchase for free to a linked Visa or Mastercard.  There are no usage limits except for the day / month / annual limits imposed by Curve which are increased as you become ‘trustworthy’.  It is only Amex transactions which are charged.

A free Curve Blue holder can also do 1 x £200 free overseas ATM withdrawal each month and pick up a few points for free on their linked Visa or Mastercard.  You get the same allowance of UK ATM withdrawals (10 per month for free) as Black and Metal cardholders.

Charges only kick in when you start recharging purchases to an American Express card.  For a lot of HFP readers, the free Curve Blue will be good enough.  If you find yourself needing to charge a few thousand pounds of Visa or Mastercard debit or credit card spend to your Amex to, for example, hit the BA Premium Plus Amex 2-4-1 voucher, you can do so for just £6.50 per £1,000.  Unless and until you do this, there is no charge for getting or using Curve Blue.

If you value all of the ‘extras’ attached to Curve Metal at £zero, you could recharge £23,000 per year to an Amex via Curve Blue at £6.50 per £1,000 before it becomes cheaper to have Curve Metal at £150 per year.

Conclusion

The ability to recharge your Visa or Mastercard debit or credit card payments to an American Express card is, for many HfP readers, a game changer.

That said, Curve is doing its best to annoy people with odd little rules which also make the product unreasonably complex.  The 0.5%-1.5% weekend FX surcharge, for example, means that it may still make sense to have a separate 0% FX fees credit card in your wallet.  Stripping luggage and personal possessions coverage from the Black travel insurance will remove the value for many people.  Having different ATM rules for UK and overseas transactions is another unnecessary complication.

To be honest I am not overwhelmed by the benefits of Curve Black and I’m not sure it will survive long term.  If you pre-pay for Curve Metal then it is only £2.50 per month more than Curve Black and the extra benefits are well worth that.

At the other end of the scale, Curve Blue remains freeBlue is a risk-free introduction to Curve and you can easily upgrade via the app to Curve Black or Curve Metal if you choose to do so at a later date.  A lot of HfP readers will be perfectly fine with the free card, preferring to ‘pay as they go’ for American Express transactions. 

If you will recharge less than £20,000 per year onto your American Express card via Curve then – if you don’t need the travel insurance, CDW car rental waiver, the ‘cool’ value of having a metal card in your wallet and the 0% Monday-Friday FX fees benefit – free Curve Blue is probably good enough.

How to apply for your Curve Card (free if you choose Blue)

Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.

I am interested to see how the new-look Curve Card goes down with the wider market.  For miles and points people like us, especially those in thrall to American Express products, it is great.  It remains to be seen how it goes down outside our circle.


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Comments (299)

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  • Craig says:

    Apologies for the confusion – Re the UK ATM withdrawals – am i right in thinking that using the curve metal i can withdraw up to £600 per month (via up to 10 withdrawals) – or am i confusing the foreign withdrawal rules with domestic? I’m trying to work out if i can effectively withdraw £7200 on my Virgin Atlantic Reward+ card over the next year, or if i can do even more than that

    Also, is this per calendar month or each 30 days since I opened the card?

    • Rob says:

      The T&C’s say unlimited UK withdrawals (first 10 free per month, rest at 50p) SUBJECT TO FAIR USE AND THEY WILL CLOSE YOU DOWN AT THEIR DISCRETION plus £600 per month for free from overseas ATMs.

      • Craig says:

        thanks Rob. So do we think if we keep UK withdrawals at less than £600 per month, that would be considered fair use? I know its hard to know, but £600 seems like a lot to me, but if they are okay about that for overseas transactions i don’t see why they would shut you down if you kept uk transactions to be less than that?

      • Filipe says:

        It’s not 10 “UK” withdrawals, its 10 withdrawals where no fx is involved. If I set a card in curve to euro, and I’m in say Germany, meaning curve doesn’t do any fx, I can in theory withdraw an unlimited amount of money, provided I’m within their daily limits and don’t exceed 10 withdrawals

  • Liz says:

    I am going to stick with the legacy black version. The email says with the legacy black you get unlimited fee free overseas spend and increased free foreign ATM withdrawals- how much are we allowed to withdraw from the ATM fee free abroad going forward?

    • Symon says:

      Same. The packages offered by the two fee cards is inferior to Amex or a decent packaged bank account. Curve seem to be chasing a younger market, who have basic bank accounts and want a gaudy metal card to “flex”.

  • Stephan Whelan says:

    I got an email saying as an existing Black member I get Metal free for TWO months not four… Anyone got clarity before I email Curve?

    • MD says:

      4 months metal for beta testers, 2 months everyone else.

      • william says:

        I was a beta tester – download the new app from the app store, but am still on the blue card when clicking on manage your subscription tab. Do you have to ask Curve to manually change it over to black?

        • stevenhp1987 says:

          I swapped to Curve Black… and it charged my card £9.99 despite being a beta member, and the community forums detailing beta members would receive 6 months free Curve Black.

          I have an open support ticket regarding it… Doesn’t appear the free 6 months is actually working at the moment!

          • Alan says:

            Did you make an extra choice? I just upgraded the app from beta and was automatically switched to new Black.

  • Ahsan says:

    How long does the Curve card (blue) take to arrive after ordering? I’ve just ordered mine through the app, and added a card to verufy etc. Just wondering how long to wait now, as I need a pay a bill by this Friday.

    • Anna says:

      Is there still a facility which tells you where you are in the queue for your card to be issued? You might be pushing it for Friday as I expect there will be a lot of interest today.

    • TheSkintTraveller says:

      3-4 days.

      • Ahsan says:

        Cheers, I’ll hold out now till hopefully it arrives in time, otherwise will have to pay on my Debit card, rather than credit card that I wanted.

  • Anna says:

    They do, but that doesn’t mean you have to pay the whole amount by DD…

  • Alan says:

    Nothing new or Amex-specific, they’re just trying to highlight the Curve Rewards benefits.

  • Paul says:

    Am I missing something here in terms of value:

    Family Holiday Insurance – approx £50 per year
    Car Hire Excess Insurance – approx £50 per year
    Gadget Insurance – approx £50 per year

    Doesn’t the Curve metal pay for itself (providing you need all the above) even without considering the additional benefits of linking to Amex Card.

    Additionally, I transfer money into my ratesetter account each month with curve linked to mastercard and also pay off Amex bill and have no problems whatsoever.

    • EvilGazebo says:

      Travel Insurance doesn’t sound like the best overall but has value if it suits.

      CDW Excess is rendered worthless (I think) by the £25k limit on the value of the rental vehicle that Rob pointed out. You really don’t have to get upgraded very much to breach that limit.

      I might be wrong but my quick scan of the insurance docs reads that the Gadget insurance forms part of the travel insurance so you have to be on a trip (defined as > 100k from home with 2 nights paid accom somewhere). So rubbish.

      • EvilGazebo says:

        “100km” oops

      • Andy says:

        CDW Insurance only applies outside of the country of issue – which makes it worthless to me even before the value of the car is considered, annoyingly.

        I don’t remember reading anything about being on a trip in the gadget insurance terms – are you sure you’re not confusing it with the valuables cover of the personal belongings element of the travel insurance? When I read the terms of the gadget cover it seemed pretty simple to me – covered for one claim a year, up to £800.

        • Paul says:

          When you say outside of the country of issue are you referring to UK i.e. car rental in UK is not covered.

        • EvilGazebo says:

          Where are you getting the separate terms for the Gadget Insurance? I’ve only seen it as a section of the travel insurance and governed by those terms i.e. you have to be on a trip.

          Happy to be proved wrong as I would like these benefits to be worth enough to justify the cost, just not yet persuaded they are!

      • Sideshowbob says:

        The travel insurance only covers family members if the cardholder is travelling with them so is not comparable to the usual paid for family travel insurance.

        Trip within the country of residence seems to be defined twice – once with the 100km requirement and once without which is not helpful. But gadget insurance doesn’t mention trip so that’s a moot point.

    • idrive says:

      Paul, for many of us, these may not be valuable as we are already covered by Amex Plat or Gold. It depends on the personal situation.

      how does it work with Ratesetter, you just indicate where to make the payment? how comes Amex accepts that, is the payment coming from an account in your name via ratesetter?

      • Paul says:

        Apologies for not making it clear

        Ratesetter accepts deposits with Debit Card. I use Curve linked to Hilton Visa, transferred thousands and all have gone through ok and never been charged any fee.

  • Mark2 says:

    I just added an Amex card to my Curve although I cannot use it again until 13th March.
    I was pleased that I had to enter the amount of the validation charge rather than an embedded code as this was very difficult to read on some cards. Is this just for Amex or is it the new way?

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