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Curve Card relaunches (Part 2)

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This is Part 2 of my article about the new Curve Card subscription plans which launched on Monday.  Part 1, which reviews the flagship Curve Metal product, is here.

To summarise the changes:

The basic Curve Card remains FREE – in fact Curve will pay you £5 for trying it out if you use my referral code of OQB4J

Curve Black costs £9.99 per month and allows £1,000 per month of free American Express top-ups (0.65% thereafter)

Curve Metal costs £14.99 per month or £150 per year and has unlimited American Express top-ups, a choice of three cool metal cards to choose from and some travel and insurance benefits

(EDIT:  A couple of days after this article ran, American Express withdrew from Curve.  This article is now only useful as a history lesson.  Our most recent introductory article on Curve, reflecting the split with Amex, is here.)

What are the three different type of Curve Card?

Part 1 explained what Curve Card is all about and reviewed the £14.99 per month Curve Metal card.  In this review I will look at Curve Black and the free Curve Blue.

Are you an existing Curve Black cardholder?  If so, you will get three months of ‘new’ Curve Black membership for free (see 4.2.1 of the T&C’s).  People who were on the Amex ‘beta’ trial will get six months.  After that you can either switch to a subscription or you can drop back the ‘old’ set of Curve Black benefits with no fee.  Alternatively you can upgrade to Curve Metal and get four months for free, but in this scenario you lose the option to drop back to a free ‘old’ Black card.

What are the features of Curve Black?

This Curve website compares the three different types of Curve Card.

Fee: £9.99 per month, no annual option

Card:  Plastic, not metal

Availability:  UK and various other EEA countries

Amex usage cap:  £1000 per month for free, with a 0.65% fee thereafter

Foreign exchange fees:  Unlimited transactions with no fee (0.5% fee $ or € and 1.5% fee for other currencies applies to transactions made on a Saturday or Sunday)

ATM withdrawals:  Overseas: £400 per month for free, 2% thereafter (can only be charged to a Visa or Mastercard) / UK: 10 free withdrawals per month (max £200 per day, fair use policy applies), 50p fee thereafter

These are the key benefits.  There are other benefits which I do not value highly but which some readers may find useful:

Travel insurance underwritten by AXA  (this looks OK, and with an age limit of 70, although the rules are stricter than many policies in terms of, for example, sports you may not play on holiday. Baggage and personal belongings are not covered for Black cardholders.)

Gadget insurance (maximum value £800 with a £50 excess)

1% cashback from six premium retailers for the first 90 days of membership.  This is on top of the rewards you will earn from your underlying card.

This card has the possibility to be attractive to Head for Points readers.  Let’s look at a couple of key areas:

Your ATM withdrawals (10 per month in the UK for free, £400-worth per month in foreign currency) will earn you miles and points on any underlying Visa or Mastercard.  This will also count towards spend-based bonuses on those cards.  This can offset a lot of the annual fee.

You can charge all of your foreign spending to a miles or points earning card – including an Amex – whilst paying 0% FX fees, which should lead to a sharp increase in your points earning

You can charge some day-to-day debit card spending to Curve and turn it into spend which earns miles, points and ‘spend-related target bonuses’

However, I would argue that Curve Metal is a better package than Curve Black.

Is Curve Metal worth paying £2.50 to £5 per month more than Curve Black?

That’s a good question.  If you pre-pay for Curve Metal at £150, the difference in cost is only £30 per year or £2.50 per month.  For your extra £2.50, you get:

  • Unlimited Amex usage (Curve Black is capped at £1000 per month for free and charges 0.65% afterwards)
  • CDW car rental insurance (not part of Black)
  • £600 vs £400 of free overseas ATM withdrawals (this in itself is worth £1 or so in extra Visa or Mastercard rewards)
  • Travel insurance includes lost baggage and personal belongings (Curve Black does not)
  • No ability to pay £15 per visit for LoungeKey airport lounge access

You also get the novelty of a metal card. On this basis, I think Curve Metal justifies the extra fee.

Finally, let’s look at the free Curve Blue card.

What are the features of Curve Blue?

Curve Blue is free – free to apply and free to operate.  American Express usage is charged, but for low spenders you may find it cheaper overall than paying the monthly fee for Curve Black or Curve Metal.

This page of the Curve website compares the free different types of Curve Card.

Fee: None

Card:  Plastic, not metal

Availability:  UK and various other EEA countries

Amex usage cap:  No free Amex usage – you pay a 0.65% fee on each transaction

Foreign exchange fees:  £500 per month for no fee (0.5% fee $ or € and 1.5% fee for other currencies applies to transactions made on a Saturday or Sunday) with a 2% fee thereafter

ATM withdrawals:  Overseas: £200 per month for free, 2% thereafter (can only be charged to a Visa or Mastercard) / UK: 10 free withdrawals per month (max £200 per day, fair use policy applies), 50p fee thereafter

1% cashback from six retailers for the first 90 days of membership.  This is on top of the rewards you will earn from your underlying card.

One key Curve feature is unchanged, however.  Even users of the free Curve Blue can pay any debit card bill and have it recharged as a purchase for free to a linked Visa or Mastercard.  There are no usage limits except for the day / month / annual limits imposed by Curve which are increased as you become ‘trustworthy’.  It is only Amex transactions which are charged.

A free Curve Blue holder can also do 1 x £200 free overseas ATM withdrawal each month and pick up a few points for free on their linked Visa or Mastercard.  You get the same allowance of UK ATM withdrawals (10 per month for free) as Black and Metal cardholders.

Charges only kick in when you start recharging purchases to an American Express card.  For a lot of HFP readers, the free Curve Blue will be good enough.  If you find yourself needing to charge a few thousand pounds of Visa or Mastercard debit or credit card spend to your Amex to, for example, hit the BA Premium Plus Amex 2-4-1 voucher, you can do so for just £6.50 per £1,000.  Unless and until you do this, there is no charge for getting or using Curve Blue.

If you value all of the ‘extras’ attached to Curve Metal at £zero, you could recharge £23,000 per year to an Amex via Curve Blue at £6.50 per £1,000 before it becomes cheaper to have Curve Metal at £150 per year.

Conclusion

The ability to recharge your Visa or Mastercard debit or credit card payments to an American Express card is, for many HfP readers, a game changer.

That said, Curve is doing its best to annoy people with odd little rules which also make the product unreasonably complex.  The 0.5%-1.5% weekend FX surcharge, for example, means that it may still make sense to have a separate 0% FX fees credit card in your wallet.  Stripping luggage and personal possessions coverage from the Black travel insurance will remove the value for many people.  Having different ATM rules for UK and overseas transactions is another unnecessary complication.

To be honest I am not overwhelmed by the benefits of Curve Black and I’m not sure it will survive long term.  If you pre-pay for Curve Metal then it is only £2.50 per month more than Curve Black and the extra benefits are well worth that.

At the other end of the scale, Curve Blue remains freeBlue is a risk-free introduction to Curve and you can easily upgrade via the app to Curve Black or Curve Metal if you choose to do so at a later date.  A lot of HfP readers will be perfectly fine with the free card, preferring to ‘pay as they go’ for American Express transactions. 

If you will recharge less than £20,000 per year onto your American Express card via Curve then – if you don’t need the travel insurance, CDW car rental waiver, the ‘cool’ value of having a metal card in your wallet and the 0% Monday-Friday FX fees benefit – free Curve Blue is probably good enough.

How to apply for your Curve Card (free if you choose Blue)

Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.

I am interested to see how the new-look Curve Card goes down with the wider market.  For miles and points people like us, especially those in thrall to American Express products, it is great.  It remains to be seen how it goes down outside our circle.


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Comments (299)

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  • Olly says:

    Is it possible to downgrade back to curve blue at a later date having upgraded to black or metal?

  • Nigel the Pensioner says:

    Im not actually clear now whether the metal card needs to be preloaded for AmEx transactions or not? If so, this could take a while unless you load from a current account and in order to pay for 2 J or F tickets at the drop of a hat, means keeping an inappropriate amount of cash in one’s current account. On top of this top up inconvenience you are paying £15 a month (or £150 pa) simply to pay for your BA ex EU flights on your AEPP card to avoid the Fx fee charged by AmEx. You would have to be booking an awful lot of (premium) flights to be paying £150 of Fx fees to AmEx!
    The style of the article today actually suggests a craving for a metal card rather than the other fringe benefits which most people will certainly have in place currently anyway (“gadget” and travel annual policies still to run). Here’s a hint for any banks wanting to launch a new card!!

    • Rob says:

      No, auto top-up APPEARS to mean that the card is loaded from your Amex at the point of purchase if there is not enough balance. However, the top up needs to be in multiples of £100. So …

      You buy an item for £45. At the point of purchase, Curve loads £100 to your card from Amex and sends off £45 for the purchase. You have a balance of £55.

      You buy another item for £30. Cost comes off your £55 balance.

      You buy another item for £60. Curve loads £100 to your card and you are left with £95.

      The reason for this is simple when you think about. Amex wants NO RESPONSIBILITY for the underlying transaction if it goes down the toilet. If your £30 item breaks, you can’t go to Amex and ask for a refund (you can ask Mastercard) because the transaction never appeared on your Amex statement. All it shows is lots of £100 top-ups to Curve.

      • Rob Walker says:

        Confirmed. I accidentally left Curve set to my Amex Platinum card last night when paying HMRC. There was about £60 in my wallet, but Curve instantly topped up the required amount (in one transaction) and the payment went through as normal.

        Annoying as I wanted to pay on my IHG card!

        • Nic says:

          Can you not use the go back in time feature to retroactively charge it to the IHG?

        • Polly says:

          Rob, it won’t be going through anymore, after last nights curve news, no more amex …nor with Billhop…

    • Big Dave says:

      you need to top up amex ‘wallet’ on all the cards – the top up is instantaneous – and you can set it to auto top-up

  • Ian says:

    The weekend fx charges really stink.

    I do like curve, but I’d expect them to drop the charges for a monthly fee. I’ll be sticking with the existing black card.

  • Max says:

    Legacy black holder here.

    I get to trial the new black for 6 months.

    Is the downgrade automatic or do I need to inform Curve? I assume one has to wait until the last day? Although not 100% sure when that is for 6 months!

    Given the £1000 top up for Amex do you really get 6 if trialling or is it only 5? As 30 days will not be available for the 6th one? Or 2 instead of 3 for non beta testers.

    All a bit confused. Might just be my age….

  • Paul says:

    I consider myself quite savvy and I read these articles with genuine interest however curve seems quite bonkers. To be honest I took it up rightvstbthevstart and when amex walked so did I. I found them difficult and obstructive back then and I have waited with interest for Amex to return.

    I am not paying anyone £150 a year unless there is very obvious benefit and I just don’t see it here. Amex Platinum has all the benefits and Halifax offers fx free transaction 24/7.

    Curve is just too complex and having to remember how many transaction I make per month or what day it is when paying the hotel bill, ex EU flight tickets etc etc, makes it clunky and unattractive to me.

    For the moment I’ll stick with Amex, Halifax and Virgin…. just wish there was a Visa card out there.

    • Rob says:

      Amex Plat has 3% FX fees. Halifax Clarity has no rewards. None of your cards offer rewards on ATM withdrawals.

      • Doug M says:

        The Lloyds Amex will be surely missed when they finally pull it. An awful lot for £24.

  • Nick G says:

    So am I right in thinking if I have a £2.5k hotel bill that I would normally put on Amex. If I went for the blue card I would be charged 0.65% on the whole transaction assuming it’s linked to my Amex? The hotel would be in QAR so it would be 2% of £2000…(first £500 is free) assuming I pay on a weekday?

    • Rob says:

      Yes. You make a small 1% saving on £2k plus 3% on the £500.

      However … remember that Amex Gold offers double points on FX spend so if your linked card is a Gold then you are not much better off doing this (albeit cash in hand is better than points).

  • oonagh cacioppo says:

    I have Gold (2 points £), BA use till 241 in place, and Platinum for benefits and offers.
    As new CURVE appears to match PLAT benefits apart from offers, should I cancel PLAT and go for METAL CURVE linked to Gold and BA?
    Extra question if I have had to pay for hotel (Bon Voyage Prive) with Visa (prior to applying for Curve!!)do the insurance benefits of Plat still apply?
    Thanking you in advance!!

  • Martin says:

    Hi

    Just looking at the Curve T&Cs. My reading of the below is that it is still possible that a card provider could charge an FX fee. Do you read this the same way, or have I missed something?

    14.1. Currency conversion fees may be charged by the Payment Card issuer when you make a transaction using your Curve Card with the Payment Card as the Funding Source, where the transaction is in a currency other than the Denominated Currency of the Payment Card. These fees are not set by Curve. Denominated Currency for the purposes of this Agreement means: the currency that the particular Payment Card was issued in.

    • Rob says:

      Very rarely I have seen this happen – a card provider treats a transaction from overseas as ‘foreign’ even though it is in £. It is most likely to happen if you are stupid enough to select ‘pay in £’ when paying for something abroad – you may still get 3% added on!

      However, as Curve recharges come from the UK and not the country where you are travelling, I don’t see it happening here.

      • Shoestring says:

        Took that as read: when abroad, never elect to pay in GBP – or the retailer will set the exchange rate

      • Adam says:

        Hi Rob…I assume the weekend means a UK weekend? So if I’m in Oz and make a transaction on Monday morning, I’ll get hit by the higher FX fees?

    • Shoestring says:

      What you’ve missed is that if you set GBP, then you’ll only pay Curve’s FX fees.

      If you don’t, you’re stuffed by the card issuer’s FX fees.

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