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American Express suspends its relationship with Curve Card, just 36 hours after launch

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Here’s something I didn’t see coming.  After launching with much fanfare on Monday, American Express suspended its relationship with Curve Card on Tuesday night.

This came just 36 hours after Amex functionality was launched to the public.  Amex cards had, however, been activated for a test group of Curve Card users for a few months before this.

(EDIT:  Curve has now published a lengthy blog post explaining how the split with American Express occurred.  I copied it into a separate article here.)

If you look on the Curve website, none of the cards are showing the option to link to American Express.  This means that the company is effectively back to the position it was in before Monday.

American Express sent me a statement last night which said:

American Express participated in a limited Curve beta test where we enabled a small number of Card Members to load funds onto an e-wallet using their Amex Card in the Curve app. Following this beta test we informed Curve that we would not participate in the further roll out of the Curve e-wallet.”

I spoke with Curve’s CEO early this morning and, whilst for legal reasons I don’t want to repeat what he said, he confirmed the position with American Express.

Curve has sent the following to users:

“We are extremely sorry that the top-up functionality for your Amex wallet is currently disabled.

Like thousands of other UK merchants, Curve has a valid merchant agreement to accept Amex payments into its e-wallet. However, on Tuesday evening, Amex decided to terminate this agreement and block all Amex transactions to Curve with immediate effect.

Amex has given no good or fair reason for their decision and we feel it is entirely disproportionate and discriminatory to Curve and all our (joint) customers. UK payment regulations clearly state that Curve should be allowed to access the Amex payment network on a level-playing field with every other fee-paying and legitimate merchant.

Rest assured that you can still spend the funds that you have already topped up to your existing Amex Wallets. If you have contacted us for support, we apologise for the delay in response and will endeavour to do so as soon as possible. We will update you as soon as we have any further information.

With our customers interests in mind, and our mission to deliver to you a truly innovative product, Curve intends to fight Amex’s decision with its full might. We believe financial freedom is the future and we are prepared to fight for yours.”

If there is any more news during the day I will drop it into this article.

TechCrunch has decent take on the subject here if you want to read more.  It is worth noting that the Amex statement given to TechCrunch – 18 hours after my statement – is a bit different:

“We participated in a limited Curve beta test in which we explored enabling Card Members to load funds onto an e-wallet using their Amex Card in the Curve app. A very small number of Amex Card Members participated in the test. Based on the results, we communicated to Curve that we would not participate in the further roll out of Curve because of concerns related to the overall American Express Card Member experience. Subsequently we terminated our contract with them.”

Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.

PS.  In a separate (or perhaps not entirely separate) note, payment company Billhop – we covered Billhop here – sent the following email to users yesterday:

“Due to guidelines from American Express you will no longer be able to make payments to private accounts with an American Express card regardless if the purpose of the payment is related to a business transaction. This change will come into effect on the 7th of February 2019.

You will still be able to use a MasterCard and/or VISA card for transactions to private accounts relating to business transactions including, but not limited to, payroll, housekeeping, rent, nanny services, etc.

Please note that peer-to-peer remittance is still not allowed regardless of card.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.”

Note that this only covers payments to sole traders.  You can continue to use Amex via Billhop to pay a company, local authority, HMRC etc.


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  • Max says:

    I would strongly advise that everyone spends what is in their wallet asap.

    If curve fold it will be lost.

    • Genghis says:

      V strong statement. I thought the position was that monies should be segregated but there’s no statement to say they are?

      • shd says:

        >> I thought the position was that monies should be segregated

        Just like in every other Ponzi scheme? 🙂

    • Rob Al says:

      Why would it be lost? I assume it’s held in a separate client account.

      • Polly says:

        Never assume….get spending.

        • Shoestring says:

          Correct. No real reason to believe your Amex Wallet money is at risk, but even 1% risk is avoidable, you might have a few £hundred stashed there, no point leaving money idle. Eg council tax is due again in a couple of months and believe me, your council won’t care if you overpay 2018/19 this late in the year, it will just come off 2019/20 CT bill.

    • Alex Sm says:

      Spent most of it on a new suit last night

  • Mackem says:

    Better than car crash TV this one. Take a seat and enjoy the ride..

  • Paul says:

    I know who I trust in this debacle and it’s not Curve. They were difficult about this when it originally launched and Amex must again have some serious concerns about what they are doing. I commented yesterday that I dumped curve when they were dropped by Amex and the complex new set up did nothing for me

  • Dan says:

    Good ridence to Curve is all I say. The left leg doesn’t know what the right leg is doing. Nothing’s changed there then. Glad I binned the card after my previous experiences of dire customer service during the original launch.

    • Jamesay says:

      I’m with you. Dire customer service was my sole reason for ditching it after paying for a card. Oddly they’re still sending me messsges!!! Good riddance

      • Mr Dee says:

        Thanks to their slow customer service and not upgrading my limits I didn’t upgrade, thank you slow support, saved some hassle getting a refund!

  • TripRep says:

    What the literal ….

    Esshhh, this has hit my limit of faff v reward

  • Louise says:

    Wow I had to laugh when I read the email this morning!

    • Bill says:

      Yep sadly that was my same reaction. I laughed out loud at how bad Curve has gotten.

      I feel for Rob who went into great detail with those two articles which I assume picked up a lot of traction on HfP

    • Federico says:

      Same reaction… funny enough I did top up only £10 and used it straight away lol

  • Stuart says:

    RIP curve

  • Thywillbedone says:

    Appears to be a serious management issue if, after previous mishaps, they couldn’t clear their lines properly with AMEX before this major launch.

    • Polly says:

      Am absolutely amazed that contracts were not signed sealed and delivered with Amex by last Friday 5pm, ready to launch Monday. How is it possible they screwed up again….

      Saying that, am happy to continue using it with my HSBC elite, if curve still lives on…

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