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An intriguing hint about the new British Airways Club World business class seat

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As most Head for Points readers know, British Airways is launching a new Club World business class seat this year.

It will debut on the A350 fleet when they are delivered, with retrofitting commencing at the same time on the Boeing 777 fleet.  By Christmas there will be six aircraft with the new seat.  Oddly, they will not be used to fly on ‘flagship’ routes such as New York because there is no First Class on the A350.

My expectations for the seat are not high.  My money has been, at best, that we get the Iberia seat on their A350 fleet which I reviewed here.  BA has confirmed that the TV will be fixed to the back of the seat in front, which supports the Iberia thesis.  Everything we know about the way British Airways behaves leads to that.

British Airways BA 777X 777 9X

And yet …..

British Airways has launched a questionnaire via its Future Lab customer panel to shape the name of the new seat.

Let’s ignore, for a second, the fact that asking people to suggest names for something that they haven’t seen is not necessarily sensible.

Four concepts are presented:

Name it in a way that describes the product

Name it with a model number, like an iPhone (eg Club World XIX as it will launch in 2019)

Name it using a random word pulled out of the air (eg Club World Vector, Contrail, Ventral)

Name it using an evolutionary phrase (eg New Club World, New Generation Club World)

 Here are the examples for the first option:

This is very interesting.

We have to assume that whoever set this questionnaire has seen the new seat.  This means that ‘Club Suite’, ‘Club World Suite’ and ‘Club World Space’ are being seriously considered as names.

Now, there is chutzpah and there is chutzpah.  I doubt even the most confident marketing guru would call the new Iberia business class seat a ‘suite’.  The same goes for the American Airlines seat.

Yes, they are very impressive.  Yes, I like to fly them and I would be happy if British Airways introduced them, but they are not ‘suites’ in the sense the word is used now.

In 2019, a ‘suite’ on a plane, if you follow the definition used by Qatar Airways with their business class Qsuite:

Qsuite

….. has a door which opens and closes.

See also the new Emirates First Class Suite which – spoiler alert – I am flying on Thursday and am quite excited about:

Emirates First Class Suite Boeing 777

Whilst it seems hard to believe, there is a chance that British Airways is really planning to launch a Club World ‘suite’ with a door.  This is a phrase I never expected to write.


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Comments (173)

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  • JB says:

    BA hasn’t ordered any A350-900s. They are receiving A350-1000s this year though

    • Rob says:

      Fixed!

      • Polly says:

        Do you think they will settle for a 1-2-1 config in CW then, would this be only where there is no F class? How will they differentiate between the classes then…maybe drop F from lots more routes?
        Enjoy Dubai…wait till the rest of the hfp ters wake up….

  • Phillip says:

    18 A350-1000 on order!

  • Simon says:

    Find it odd in respect to the 777-300’s that are being refurbished with the new seats this year that they’ll add a Club World ‘Suite’ with a door, but then update First with the door-less seat from the 787 (albeit I suspect with still more personal space then Club World).

    • Ian says:

      American airlines business class and first class seats have very little difference and it works for them. A certain traveller will always pay extra for “first” and points collectors like to be able to upgrade to first

      It would be great if they did something similar to the Q-Suite and the ££ they always say they are spending on investment was to bring the seat fleet wide as quickly as AA did but…. this is BA

  • Ciaran McQuillan says:

    What about a variation of the Delta One Suite which is manufactured by Thompson Aero in Northern Ireland???

  • Russ says:

    Well done on bagging F on EK!

    BA J class is so yesterday on wide bodies and I don’t know anyone who likes flying whilst facing backwards. Good news if suites it is.

    • John says:

      I do not mind facing backwards if with my wife. But I tried it once on my own many years ago and have never wanted to repeat the experience since, regardless of how cheap it might be ex-EU.

  • Laurence Dalby says:

    Q Suites picture is actually Qatar first class.

  • Andrew says:

    Why have you got a picture of QR First Class instead of QSuite?

    • Rob says:

      Fixed. I wrote this very quickly in the Air France lounge in Paris yesterday lunchtime and my flight was being called ….

  • Andrew says:

    Virgin Atlantic have always called their herringbone seat ‘Upper Class Suite’ – and it has no closing doors. So doesn’t necessarily follow that BA are planning to have doors.

    • TripRep says:

      Nice catch, but I think by Suite they mean the whole UC area as it has a bar.?

      • Andrew says:

        “Make yourself comfy in your Upper Class Suite.” is how VS describe it – “your” makes it sound like your actual seat not “the” Upper Class cabin.

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