Flybe adds a new route – Guernsey and Jersey to Newquay

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• TripRep says:

  27 Feb27 February 06:27

  Another FT BA article.
  https://app.ft.com/content/d2a98b34-2f81-11e9-8744-e7016697f225?sectionid=companies

  Rob – do you know Josh?

  • Thomas Howard says:

    27 Feb27 February 07:36

    The comments by Ivor Badfeeling on the FT article (if true) on operational cuts at BA sound similar to many of the examples set out in “The Men Who Killed Qantas”. Coupled with their Brexit regulatory preparations it gives you the impression they’ve lost touch with the world they’re inhabiting.

    https://www.ft.com/content/3da640e2-2ee4-11e9-8744-e7016697f225

  • BSI1978 says:

    27 Feb27 February 08:05

    Unless I am doing something wrong, both of those links appear to be firewalled TripRep

    • Optimus Prime says:

      27 Feb27 February 08:22

      Try this one: https://outline.com/XF9ghn

  • George K says:

    27 Feb27 February 09:39

    I do

• Yuff says:

  27 Feb27 February 06:44

  How do you book Flybe flights with avios?
  I have done 6 Flybe flights in the last 3 months and have given up trying to get the avios as when I log in to the avios account I set up on flybe it just does nothing 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Oh Matron! says:

    27 Feb27 February 08:53

    You might have missed the Virgin consortium takeover of flybe…

    • callum says:

      27 Feb27 February 10:19

      Not really relevant when you can still book Flybe flights with Avios, as the article says.

      As to the question, you book it the same you would book any other Avios flight – on BA.com and, presumably, on Avios.com.

  • Rob says:

    27 Feb27 February 10:12

    Via BA.com

• nigel whitehouse says:

  27 Feb27 February 06:49

  I was on a BA business class flight coming back from Dubai last week, Air Belgium metal, flight cancelled 1 hour before departure. Fiasco. Very little practical help from BA. No help to get us on flights on alternative airlines. BA rebooked me on flight next day, other business class passengers still waiting for find out what flights they were rebooked on. Economy passengers rebooked for 2 or 3 days later. Shambles. Rubbish 🙁

• James says:

  27 Feb27 February 07:17

  BA’s First class can’t even be considered the best business class product anymore 🙁

  This airline is becoming more of a national embarrassment than the lack of Brexit planning.

  • Mark2 says:

    27 Feb27 February 07:28

    I think that it is becoming clear that we shall not even be pretending to leave the EU.

    • Cat says:

      27 Feb27 February 07:31

      Fingers crossed!

      • Anna says:

        27 Feb27 February 08:09

        If you want to stay in a club where nearly 1 trillion euros is embezzled from EU funds by some of our fellow members each year…

      • Simon says:

        27 Feb27 February 08:20

        Anna, if you’re referring to the accounts being qualified then compare the EU’s accounts with DWP. The level of fraud is not dissimilar.

      • Bazza says:

        27 Feb27 February 08:53

        Sounds like fantastic argument for staying? Really?

      • Combatjohnny says:

        27 Feb27 February 09:02

        Its not like people voted to leave or anything…

      • SteveD says:

        27 Feb27 February 09:47

        I’m confused. 1 Trn EUR embezzled each year from a total budget of c. 150 Bn EUR?

      • callum says:

        27 Feb27 February 10:29

        What on Earth are you talking about Anna? I know the majority of Brexiters are rather dim, but that takes the biscuit! I really hope you’ve mis-typed that and do actually have a tiny bit of common sense! The only trillion euro stories I can find are about tax evasion – which, if anything, leaving the EU will make harder to stop.

        Combatjohnny – A large proportion of those who voted to leave are complete idiots, many of which now recognise that they were just gullible. Everything indicates that now it’s common knowledge that the leave campaign arguments were mostly lies, and Brexit is therefore going to be absolutely nothing like what leave voters were promised, the majority want to stay. It’s somewhat staggering that so many people think that the public shouldn’t be allowed to change it’s mind (yet still support regular general elections – why?).

      • Anna says:

        27 Feb27 February 11:42

        https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/corruption-costs-eu-990-billion-year-rand-study-fraud-funding/amp/

        This is a good start but you can also read the reports compiled by organisations such as Transparency International. Maybe before you start hurling abuse.

      • Genghis says:

        27 Feb27 February 12:24

        @Anna corruption in the EU (area) isn’t the same as corruption in the EU (political organisation). Aboloshing the EU wouldn’t necessarily decrease the amount of corruption.

      • Bazza says:

        27 Feb27 February 13:08

        Keep ya hair on callum. Clearly the genius to help us idiot’s see the light? Anything new or same old remainer crying? I’m still waiting on that emergency budget and the interest rates ti fly through the roof? Gospel so I heard?

      • the_real_a says:

        27 Feb27 February 13:10

        I see Callum`s self appointed position of HfP moral preacher is alive and well, and of course anyone who holds different opinions to him must be an idiot. Depending on peoples position in life that they may conclude differently. Brexit was never about net benefit, it was about relative benefit to individuals and that within 10 street of where they live both economically and culturally.

      • RussellH says:

        27 Feb27 February 16:19

        Combatjohnny says: on 27 February 2019 at 09:02

        > Its not like people voted to leave or anything

        Some people did. Some others did not. Still others did not bother to vote, so they certainly were not desparate to leave. And quite a lot were banned from voting, for various reasons.

        Population of UK 2017 estimate: 66,040,229 (from ons.gov.uk)
        The number voting to leave was less than 18 million, so around 27% of “the people”.

        Clearly, “the people” did not vote to leave the EU.

      • Lady London says:

        27 Feb27 February 18:10

        What’s DWP?

      • Fenny says:

        27 Feb27 February 19:43

        @RussellH, the population does not equate to those able or registered to vote. Even if everyone over 18 registers to vote, that doesn’t come anywhere near the total population.

        But don’t let a poor argument get in your way when you’re having a good old rant.

      • callum says:

        27 Feb27 February 20:33

        The Real A – it takes a lot more than disagreeing with me to be an idiot! I care about the truth so am wrong less often than the average person, but I guarantee I’m wrong on many occasions. That one billion euros a year is embezzled from the EU budget is a flat out lie however is not one of them. The reason that infuriates me is that liars like Anna, people who are otherwise perfectly respectable and knowledgeable, are exactly why we are in this mess. Being someone who has abandoned ship, how this turns out doesn’t really affect me any more – but it’s people like her who are directly responsible for me losing 15% of my savings following the referendum due to the pound’s fall so I feel I have every right to be angry at them!

        Bazza – I don’t understand the question? Anything new?

        Finally Anna, if saying that many Brexiters are dim and that I hope the obvious falsehood was a mistype and that you’re not one of them is “hurling abuse”, you need to either get off the internet or stop writing nonsense.

      • Shoestring says:

        27 Feb27 February 20:37

        @Callum – if you decided to go live in Ireland, then it *is* affecting you every day

      • Charlieface says:

        27 Feb27 February 21:27

        Hey guys, let’s all calm down. All should recognize there are two sides to these debates. Those who voted remain did so probably because of economic reasons, so economic arguments are on their side. Those who voted to leave did so for non-economic reasons so economic arguments are useless. Leave was majority of votes, remain was maybe majority of people. Basically everyone should just shut up and get on with whatever they’re supposed to be doing in life, because whatever you say on this forum or any other is unlikely to make any difference to the situation.
        My understanding is Rob doesn’t comment on it because it has little relevance to topics here.
        If anything, I want to hear on here what changed in your points collection style or valuations because of Brexit, not ideological arguments rehashed from 2016.

    • Michael says:

      27 Feb27 February 09:52

      It’s pointless worrying about leaving or staying…there’s more to life. I can’t see things changing either way. I’ll still be getting up in the morning and going to work.

      • bill says:

        27 Feb27 February 10:24

        lucky you. many others won’t be…

      • Michael says:

        27 Feb27 February 10:29

        only as stressful as you make it

      • callum says:

        27 Feb27 February 10:33

        Indeed. What could possibly change when radically altering how the entire UK economy works overnight…

      • SimonW says:

        27 Feb27 February 11:22

        The “entire” UK economy workings are radically changing overnight?? Calm down Callum, calm down.

      • callum says:

        27 Feb27 February 11:49

        I’m genuinely curious what your game here is Simon? Do you think you’re funny, or are you trying to annoy me?

        If it’s the former you just come across as pathetic to me (maybe the regulars like it?), if it’s the latter then…. I guess, step it up a bit!

        There’s a distinct difference between what I wrote and what you claim I wrote, I’ll happily explain more dependent on the answer to the above question should you want to know!

      • Paul says:

        27 Feb27 February 12:00

        The article makes no sense. moreover refers to countries in the EU rather than the EU being responsible for corruption and admits that it’s an estimate with a range of 200bn to the the figure you (and the article) cherrypicksvif 1bn. More Project Fear from a selective and contradictory source.

      • Anna says:

        27 Feb27 February 12:42

        Agree Michael but Ghenghis, the point is that whoever is committing the fraud, the money is coming from EU funds, to which we currently contribute a disproportionate amount. The EU as a political entity is totally failing to deal with it, and this is (just) one reason I personally don’t want to be part of it any more.

      • Anna says:

        27 Feb27 February 12:45

        Paul, if you bothered to read my original post, I referred to fraud committed by member states, so the article is absolutely relevant to my argument.

        I have 2 degrees (including a PhD) in European languages, I have lived and studied in the EU so I think I am qualified as well as entitled to have my opinion!

      • Simonw says:

        27 Feb27 February 13:14

        Callum is over tired. Someone will put him back to bed in a minute and he will settle down again like Rob did with his crying about curve fees. Hahah

      • Evan says:

        27 Feb27 February 15:16

        I’d say this to both Anna and Callum. Please keep your own political views on Brexit off this site. I don’t come here for a Brexit fix but keep up to date with points and travel. And I’m not going to indicate which side I fall on that particular debate because it isn’t relevant to my request.

      • Genghis says:

        27 Feb27 February 17:55

        @ Anna “Agree Michael but Ghenghis, the point is that whoever is committing the fraud, the money is coming from EU funds, to which we currently contribute a disproportionate amount”
        The article doesn’t say the money is coming from EU funds.

      • Fenny says:

        27 Feb27 February 19:45

        Well, if parliament ever get past their endless ranting about Brexit, they may get round to deciding the future of my organisation. We are probably going to cease to exist on 1 April 2020, but have no idea who will keep their jobs and who won’t. Brexit is merely a speed hump on the road to my lack of employment.

      • Shoestring says:

        27 Feb27 February 19:48

        speed bump, I think you’ll find

        speed hump is something I regularly did as a student before age slowed me down

      • callum says:

        27 Feb27 February 20:38

        SimonW – What on Earth are you twittering on about now? Curve fees?

        Your obsession with me is moving from childish and pathetic to flat-out creepy.

    • Alan says:

      27 Feb27 February 11:42

      Here’s hoping!

      • Paul says:

        27 Feb27 February 12:59

        Totally entitled to your opinion. However the EU budget is smaller than the lower estimate of corruption in the article. The EU is not a corrupt organisation and the member states are amongst the least corrupt in the world. Corruption is a red herring in this debate. And as you have a phd you will know that quoting the highest number from an estimate range is not academically very rigorous.

      • Russ says:

        27 Feb27 February 13:39

        I’m sure Rob will write an article on how Brexit affects points collectors when it does. Perhaps we should wait till that time and restrain our Brexit thoughts and emotions to other, non point collecting outlets. 🙂

        • Alan says:

          27 Feb27 February 14:00

          Given it had come up in discussion I don’t see why I shouldn’t comment – regardless of Brexit or not the way it has been handled (from the vote to the process thereafter) has been a total shambles that is having a major impact on many (for example in healthcare with EU colleagues leaving, no clarity on medicines or device regulation, major upcoming issues for availability of radioisotopes for diagnostics and treatment).

      • SteveD says:

        27 Feb27 February 14:17

        Russ, I’d argue the time for such an article might be now – once an actual Brexit outcome is crystallised, we could see some wild currency swings. Holding points in certain schemes could be seen as a hedge.
        OK, not the kind of hedge that will make us all (even more) millions 🙂 but even so…

        I see a problem for Rob though, and for any other business figurehead. In writing the article, he has to tiptoe delicately along a dividing line. If he is seen to put his foot in one camp or the other, with the country / readership so deeply divided (as we’ve seen today), he risks alienating half of his customer base.

        • Alan says:

          27 Feb27 February 14:38

          Agree, SteveD – I’ve upped my points valuation as a result of Sterling weakening.

      • Cat says:

        27 Feb27 February 16:16

        My crossed fingers may have touched a few nerves!
        Sorry!

      • Lady London says:

        27 Feb27 February 18:17

        I’ve upped my valuation of hotel points for sure due to the effect on the value of the UK Pound that is caused by the uncertainty surrounding Brexit.

        For airline points there just seems no salvation…. Even when the UK Pound has fallen about 1/3rd again EUR, airline miles value just seems to keep going down

        • Alan says:

          27 Feb27 February 18:50

          @Lady London, yes I’m finding hotel points generally much more valuable.

      • JimmyB says:

        27 Feb27 February 18:45

        Less than 5% of the entire NHS work force comes from the EU, now thr percentage of that thst have already left is having a major impact? Strange. We are not noticing a significant impact at Uclh.
        What radioisotope are you concerned about exactly?

        • Alan says:

          27 Feb27 February 18:54

          Perhaps you’re fine in London, but elsewhere recruitment can be more tricky and a higher number of staff may come from the EU. We’ve lost 2 anaesthetists recently due to this.

          Re radioisotopes – I don’t work in Nuc Med but see this comment as an example https://www.bmj.com/content/360/bmj.k1020.full – leaving Euratom definitely an issue.

      • David P says:

        27 Feb27 February 23:00

        @JimmyB: the most obvious isotope of concern is 99Tc. That’s synthesized from 99Mo, which is a decay product from certain designs of old nuclear reactor. We don’t have any of that particular reactor design in the UK so we’re entirely reliant on importing 99Mo from the EU in order to generate 99Tc. Once we leave the EU, and Euratom with it, we won’t be able to import 99Mo without putting in place a huge amount of paperwork to comply with EU regulations surrounding the transport of radioactive material. Not to mention the loss of radiochemical yield if (when!) the 99Mo gets held up in the inevitable import chaos at ports and other points of entry to the UK. There are other isotopes of concern including 223Ra, but these tend to be niche isotopes with relatively few treatments requiring them.

• Cat says:

  27 Feb27 February 07:30

  Has anyone booked and paid online yet? Just curious if the checkout spend only rule is working this time.

  • TGLoyalty says:

    27 Feb27 February 08:14

    Comment yesterday saying they had triggered the offer booking a non refundable rate online.

    I suspect Checkout rule is only there to make it clear the charge must be made before the expiry of the offer and not just booked as hotels can charge you whenever they like.

  • Craig says:

    27 Feb27 February 08:35

    It’s always worked for me before using non-refundable cumulative rates which usually take a couple of days for the hotel to charge.

  • George K says:

    27 Feb27 February 10:00

    I’m tempted to do this for a stay that’s in July. I’m a bit concerned though as pre-paid stays don’t always get charged at the time of booking (for example, just came back from Frankfurt where I had a booking since late last year, which was charged a couple of days before I checked in..)

    • Alan says:

      27 Feb27 February 11:44

      If you contact the hotel they’ll normally be happy to put the charge through early.

    • Cat says:

      27 Feb27 February 16:14

      Thanks all, I may go ahead and book then!
      I was about to say fingers crossed again, but that doesn’t seem to have gone so well above…

    • Tom1 says:

      28 Feb28 February 07:10

      I used it for pre-paid rate and got the agreed confirmation the next day, at the same time as Hilton charged my card.

• Mark2 says:

  27 Feb27 February 07:37

  I am not a wine expert and I do not fly very often.
  But when we flew to Boston in F last October I was impressed with the wines in the Concorde Room and on the plane. I particularly liked the A2Z wines from Oregon to the extent that I went to Whole Food Markets and bought some to take home.
  We are flying to Vancouver in F in May and expect to be pleased again; with the wine and the whole experience.

  • Mr(s) Entitled says:

    27 Feb27 February 10:18

    And that is the key…. when it comes to wine people often confuse price with quality. Now, I’m not saying that BA wines are the best in the sky, but you can get some fantastic wine for less than £10 a bottle (retail price) and some awful wines for ten times that. It’s all down to personal taste.

  • Paul says:

    27 Feb27 February 11:15

    You might be able to get very nice wine at £10 a bottle retail but BA should not be serving it in 1st. It’s a super expensive product and you should be getting premium quality wine. I think the quality of wine served in 1st has fallen off a cliff in the last five years. It’s now at a level with the food which is also appalling. Thank god they have not enhanced LPGS away.

    • Dev says:

      27 Feb27 February 11:58

      Completely agree with Paul, although I did have an excellent dinner served on the SIN-LHR sector recently. It made me reconsider my view that BA F is getting to rock bottom!

• Crafty says:

  27 Feb27 February 07:43

  OT: Best PP lounge at Singapore Changi T1?

  I believe we can access Dnata, Sats or Plaza Premium.

  • Justas says:

    27 Feb27 February 10:26

    Premium Plaza – nice views of the runway, freshly cooked Laksa, good quality snacks, beer and wine for free. Btw, Terminals 1-2-3 are connected airside, so you can also go to TGM restaurant. Decent choice from a list of set menus with Asian offerings. Food only though.

  • The Lord says:

    27 Feb27 February 11:12

    Dnata for me, but did not try the others. Was very impressed though

  • Lady London says:

    27 Feb27 February 18:20

    PP. Good massages at a reasonable cost too.

• Crafty says:

  27 Feb27 February 07:46

  The company that supplies BA First Class wine makes an enormous operating margin on this contract, far higher than any of its other customers bar one.

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