British Airways releases four teaser photos of the new Club World seat

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• AlexT says:

  16 Mar16 March 14:54

  That’s the B/E Aerospace / Rockwell Collins Superdiamond, as expected. Qatar’s seat…

  Now let’s see what customisations BA has done. That seat does have a suite variant with a door that’s not yet in use by any airline.

  • Leo says:

    16 Mar16 March 16:21

    How can you tell? You must seriously know your stuff! All I can see is a blankest and a bit of upholstery lol.

    • Hector says:

      16 Mar16 March 22:15

      The armrest is absolutely identical. The Diamond seat has a much narrower one which suggests it has to be the Super –

      https://onemileatatime.com/could-this-be-british-airways-new-business-class-seat/

      • Shoestring says:

        16 Mar16 March 22:23

        Not very comfortable if you’re a big’un? 6’2″ megoodself, squashed feet/ spine.

    • Marcw says:

      17 Mar17 March 08:54

      Armrest is key. Educated guess

  • G Flyer says:

    17 Mar17 March 11:36

    Sadly BA won’t be installing the variant with the door. Strangely, BA think that their passengers won’t like the added privacy. I disagree, and think that’s fuzzy logic: if a passenger feels too cocooned, they can just leave the door open!

• Phil G says:

  16 Mar16 March 14:55

  Are the staff in the galley going to be quiet so you can sleep now ?

  • John says:

    16 Mar16 March 15:06

    So funny you should say that. Flew back from Miami last Saturday, seats 53KJ on the A380 and we couldn’t get any sleep because despite ear plugs and noise cancelling headphones, we could hear them chatting, giggling, opening draws, banging doors… and I wondered if it was me being too difficult or them being too noisy!!!!!!!

    • Dimitri says:

      16 Mar16 March 15:57

      It’s not you. It’s them and it’s uniquely a Self entitlement thing – How dare you disturb their conversation with your sleep! I have experienced this from first class trains to air-planes in the UK.

    • CV3V says:

      16 Mar16 March 16:04

      Nope its not you, had the same experience. In my case on overnight flights its usually not an issue, but on one flight it was due to a staff passenger talking non stop to the crew. It was resolved 🙂

      • Shoestring says:

        16 Mar16 March 16:28

        Raffles could maybe take notes 🙂

    • Andrew says:

      16 Mar16 March 19:12

      “Opening Draws”

      Prize draws?

      • David says:

        17 Mar17 March 09:53

        Heh, well done!

        To be fair, I imagine that might generate some noise…

  • the_real_a says:

    16 Mar16 March 16:24

    They are too busy trying to get the cabin to resemble a sauna… i wouldn’t be surprised if they open the oven to aid the heating process.

    • Alan says:

      16 Mar16 March 16:54

      Hahaha love it!

    • Artimus says:

      17 Mar17 March 15:29

      Flew BA 210 upper deck and I kept waking up cause it was way too hot (and I for one am easily cold). Even with blankets aside, socks removed, joggers rolled up to my knees I was still miserable 🙁

      • Doug M says:

        18 Mar18 March 07:25

        Hard to control temp on a 747. Good thread on FT about it. Newer planes better temp and humidity controls. No doubt 787 and 350 reduce jet lag through better cabin air.

  • Chris James says:

    17 Mar17 March 04:07

    Ditto even in first they seem oblivious!

• James says:

  16 Mar16 March 15:03

  Yea defo the super diamond seat. Well that is good news! I cant see them installing a door though. But the seat alone would be a huge improvement.

• Will says:

  16 Mar16 March 15:07

  My money is actually on the Elements seat by Rockwell Collins. Runway Girl blog had some pics.

  It is essentially a Super Diamond with a door.

  BA would be the first carrier to install the seat which would mean that their claim in the investor day presentation to be introducing a world class new club world seat (or words along those lines) would hold true.

  Of course it would arguably mean that the new CW seat would be better than the F seat albeit they won’t be on the same aircraft for a while.

  • Will says:

    16 Mar16 March 15:12

    See here for images and The blog post I mentioned: https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2018/06/08/rockwell-collins-explores-bulkhead-business-plus-first-minus-market/

    The pics at bottom of article are the best given the top ones are of how the seat can be adapted for first class.

• Cat says:

  16 Mar16 March 15:13

  👏
  How long before you’re allowed to comment Rob?

  • Genghis says:

    16 Mar16 March 15:16

    I’d imagine not until announced on Mon / Tues

    • Cat says:

      16 Mar16 March 15:31

      Bring it on!

• David says:

  16 Mar16 March 15:13

  Why are you not allowed to comment on them?

  • Whizz68 says:

    16 Mar16 March 15:17

    Presumably, he signed a non disclosure agreement?

• Robert says:

  16 Mar16 March 15:21

  More importantly, when will we see it installed, first routes etc, and will it be rear facing and 8 across like the current layout. For the record I’m in the minority who really like the current CW when travelling with others.

  • Will says:

    16 Mar16 March 15:29

    Current CW certainly has a niche offering when traveling as 2 or more in the right seats, it’s sociable.

    It’s also pretty frustrating when you have a centre seat next to a stranger as per my most recent trip.

    • Rob says:

      16 Mar16 March 15:44

      This is partly why I was always a bit conflicted by CW. It stinks in SO many ways, but if you’re travelling with two tiny kids (and my kids are not that tiny any longer) there is NOTHING on the market more suitable than the middle block of a BA 777 / A380.

      Similarly, 2-4-2 has some value for couples who want to be together and by a window.

      • Will says:

        16 Mar16 March 16:58

        Agree, I’m travelling with 3 friends to the rugby later this year and the middle 4 on a 777 will be far more sociable for us than anything else in any other first or business product on the market except q suite which I’ve not had the pleasure of trying.

      • shd says:

        17 Mar17 March 15:51

        > if you’re travelling with two tiny kids…

        I don’t understand this. On our family trips we’ve always loved a row of single window seats (ideally 1A 2A 3A 4A) on QR’s 787 or A350.

        Why would anyone want a group of seats in middle of the “dorm” with no-one having a window?

        • Rob says:

          17 Mar17 March 17:05

          Because a 3-year old doesn’t care about a window but does want somewhere to play.

      • Shoestring says:

        17 Mar17 March 16:06

        because tiny kids don’t appreciate the window as much as being next to mum?

        tiny being under 7, I guess. I started booking columns of window seats (same as you) not long after that, as much as to stop them arguing as anything else

        nowadays – we are 5 – quite often we get 3 window seats and 3 in a row, that’s what they ask for so that’s what they get

        • Rob says:

          17 Mar17 March 17:02

          No, the middle block effectively gives you blocked-in floor space where you can put toys etc.

  • ChrisC says:

    16 Mar16 March 21:36

    As Rob has previously reposted the first planes will have it later this year – A350s will come with this pre installed – plus a couple of 777s on a phased upgrade plan

    747’s apparently won’t get the new seat.

    As the first batch of A350s won’t have F that automatically excludes routes like LHR-JFK

    The race is between who will get their new seats into passenger service – BA or VS/

    • Matt says:

      16 Mar16 March 22:31

      I also agree that CW is great when travelling as a couple

      • Phil Gollings says:

        17 Mar17 March 07:03

        It’s not even the best over the Atlantic, let alone going east. AA & Delta are far better products. Qatar, Emirates and many others knock them out the park. Are much cheaper too

    • Robert says:

      17 Mar17 March 22:26

      thanks for the updates, I’ll be booking a trip on whatever is available as close to launch as possible. I like the Finnair A350 biz product, looking forward to comparing.

• CV3V says:

  16 Mar16 March 16:07

  This attempt by BA at some hype frankly pees me off! They are years behind everyone else and their usual artsy marketing pics of an armrest, a table release logo, some stitching and someone asleep is a touch patronising. (yes I have had a bad day!)

  • Shoestring says:

    16 Mar16 March 16:46

    you can’t blame BA marketing people for putting a little playfulness back into what had become a very staid/ boring proposition

  • Susan says:

    17 Mar17 March 08:01

    +1 BA marketing never knowingly undersells but making a big thing of playing catch-up is pushing it even for them.

    • Rob says:

      17 Mar17 March 08:38

      Ironically they are NOT making a big push of this. There is no launch event. They are worried because it is good but your chances of getting it are virtually nil in 2019.

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