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The (leaked) new Avios partner flight pricing looks OK if true …. so why is BA keeping shtum?

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British Airways, as we covered yesterday, has announced increases in Avios pricing for flights on partner airlines.  This is basically all airlines except BA, Iberia, Aer Lingus and Vueling.

Our main article on the Avios partner changes is here.

The official ba.com announcement is here.

As we pointed out, British Airways has deliberately kept the price increases secret.  All we have been told is that we need to book by 30th May or we will be paying a ‘different’ amount – it won’t even admit to increasing the prices.

As a PR exercise, this is a pretty low move.  As you would expect, the internet decided that things were going to be very bad indeed.

And yet …

Apparently it turns out that, if you ring British Airways to make a telephone booking for a flight after 30th May, the call centre agents can see the new pricing on their screen – although the booking goes through at the old price.

Based on reports I have pulled together from elsewhere – I think Seat 31B had it first – this is what is happening:

Distance flown:  Economy one-way / PE one-way / Business one-way / First one-way

0 – 650 miles:  WAS: 4500 Avios / 6750 Avios / 9000 Avios / 18000 Avios

0- 650 miles:  WILL BE: 6000 Avios / 9000 Avios / 12000 Avios / 24000 Avios

651 – 1,150 miles:  WAS: 7500 Avios / 11250 Avios / 15000 Avios / 30000 Avios

651 – 1,150 miles:  WILL BE: 9000 Avios / 13500 Avios / 18000 Avios / 36000 Avios

1,151 – 2,000 miles:  WAS: 10000 Avios / 15000 Avios / 20000 Avios / 40000 Avios

1,151 – 2,000 miles:  WILL BE: 11000 Avios / 16500 Avios / 22000 Avios / 44000 Avios

2,001 – 3,000 miles:  WAS: 12500 Avios / 25000 Avios / 37500 Avios / 50000 Avios

2,001 – 3,000 miles:  WILL BE: 13000 Avios / 26000 Avios / 39000 Avios / 52000 Avios

Note that the leaked numbers only reflected Economy pricing and we are assuming that the Business / First multiplier remains the same.

The change here is modest, especially at the higher levels.  I mean …. going from 50000 Avios to 52000 Avios for a 3,000 mile First Class flight is not exactly a huge increase.

Even at the lower levels, going from 4500 Avios to 6000 Avios for a short hop on a partner airline is not a massive devaluation in absolute terms.  The jump from 18000 to 24000 Avios for a sub-650 mile flight in First Class is obviously tough, but realistically who books one of those?

It is possible, although we need to wait for the small print, that short-hop flights in the USA will actually become cheaper.  Could the rule of charging at least 7,500 Avios per sector for US domestic flights, however short, be removed?

There has been no word to Iberia Plus members of any increase in Avios pricing.  This doesn’t mean anything, however, as Iberia has different pricing and mileage bands for partner redemptions.  Airline partner redemptions booked via Iberia Plus are also non-refundable, so I don’t recommend booking them.

BA Avios changes to partner flights

So …. what was BA playing at on Monday?  Assuming that the numbers above are true – and this has yet to be confirmed, I did ask BA but they had not replied by last night – it scored a PR own goal by not revealing the numbers.

If the email had been worded differently – “we are making some modest increases, some as low as 4%, to our partner redemption prices to reflect the increased cost to us of funding these flights” – then everyone would have been fine about it.

The BA PR machine has been working a lot better lately, especially with the success of the four retro liveries and the sensibly low key (given the roll-out timetable) Club Suite announcement.  The 100th anniversary TV ad has grown on me too.  This bodged announcement just seems like one step backwards, assuming the numbers above are true.


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Comments (147)

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  • Mike says:

    “The jump from 18000 to 24000 Avios for a sub-650 mile flight in First Class is obviously tough, but realistically who books one of those?”

    Somebody who books DOH-MCT just to get into the Al-Safwa lounge LOL

    • Rob says:

      Yes, I agree, that is the only possible reason you (and indeed I) would do it! Although until the blockade lifts Muscat is about the only possible option.

      • Russ says:

        Is it ever going to lift, it’s been dragging on and on and on. The last I read they were thinking of digging a canal effectively turning Qatar into an island. If so Rob you may have to change the name from ‘Head for Points’ to ‘Head for Punts.’

    • John says:

      £180 + return for Al Safwa seems a bit excessive, not to mention £240.

      Sure the 60 TPs are nice, but just wait for an ex-MCT sale… did MCT-DOH-BKK in F/J for £600 last year

  • Mark says:

    I did a return to JFK last week and managed to fly on the two retro 747’s

    • Julian says:

      Presumably the cabin interiors, food and staff uniforms aren’t retro though and its just the external colour scheme that is that way?

      • David says:

        I dunno, are there any un-refurbed 52J 747s still flying the JFK route? The interiors on those are rather retro, especially the IFE…

  • KSB says:

    Any idea if this will impact multi-carrier reward flight table?

    Also, does anybody know if the multi-carrier award table works for a one way trip (i.e. not coming back to UK)? Am thinking about moving to NZ and want to take my family on a 6 month trip through Europe/Asia/Australia on the way there.

    • Rob says:

      Multi-partner is very flexible, there may be rules about back tracking but even those don’t seem to be applied by some agents. I know people who come back to the UK and then add on a quick return to Europe to use up their allowance.

      • KSB says:

        Thanks – will plan a dream itinerary and give them a call to see if it prices up as expected….may have to add in US/Fiji to get the miles close to the 20k sweet spot.

        Will just be limited by end of UK school year in July to beginning of NZ school year in Feb

  • PaulC says:

    Sorry O/T
    How long does a friend referral normally take to show on your account?

    • BJ says:

      For amex? Usually posts same day as card arrives, usually 3-4 days after applying.

      • PaulC says:

        Cheers, yes it was BAPP. I was expecting instant like when you do a supplementary card but fair enough a few more days to wait then.

    • Rob says:

      Within a few days of acceptance.

      • Ben says:

        I cancelled my BAPP card 4 months ago (waiting for the 6months). But with the recent changes, if I get the card again now does anyone know, for sure, if I will get the 241 voucher after spending the £10k

      • Mark Henwood says:

        Hmm. I still haven’t seen the bonus for a referral I made 2 weeks ago and when I chatted with Amex online about it they said it can take up to 90 days.

  • Nick says:

    This has happened because the contracts with partners are expiring… AGL (who negotiate the rates) haven’t yet completed the renegotiations with all carriers, which is why the full price lists can’t be released yet.
    This isn’t BA trying to make a wholescale devaluation (this will come later…), more a typical reprice like you’d expect to see every few years. The problem is that marketing (who control these emails) wanted to get something out anyway – a classic case of left hand/right hand.

  • Alex says:

    OT – out of my Amex, Curve, Revolut & Virgin cards, only the amex works with Apple Pay. Anyone managed to get any of the others to work?

    • guesswho2000 says:

      The card issuer in question has to actually support/offer Apple Pay functionality, it’s not a case of getting it to work.

      Amex do, Curve/Revolut don’t. No idea about Virgin, but I assume they don’t either.

  • Ruth4325 says:

    O/T Could anyone explain why the taxes flying F to NYC are around £400 more for 2 pax if flying from EDI instead of London? If I booked it as two separate flights the avios would be the same and taxes lower…but it wouldn’t be a through ticket. Is there any way around this?

  • Julian says:

    Bit of a bore that the more interesting comments on Page 1 have already disappeared on to the Older Comments page at only 11.24am

    That means Shoestring might never see my reply on the meal deal issue:-(

    Oh for the introduction of normal properly threaded HfP discussion forum where we can be sent emails updating us on reply messages to our own posts………….

    • Shoestring says:

      I shall never know 🙂

      • PaulC says:

        Sorry I started that at the top. haha

      • Julian says:

        The Older Comments button is your friend.

        Just be very careful never to accidentally pick up a regular size Mars, Marathon, Maltesers or Wispa (instead of the large size, which is usually hidden away and the only one that qualifies in the Meal Deal, contravening all government anti sugar health advice in the process) when buying the Tesco Meal Deal or it will end up costing you £5.75 or so rather than just £3!!

        I’m also beginning to feel as though the mantle of head forum comments page addict could be beginning to slip from Genghis’s brow in favour of Shoestring…….

        • Shoestring says:

          haha! been stuck in front of my computer this week doing something important but which entails a lot of waiting around…just signing & scanning & sending right now & I’m off to see the Obby Oss stuff (May 1st) 🙂

        • Rob says:

          Head of Comments should be judged on quality not quantity 🙂

        • Julian says:

          Shoestring

          Does this mean that you live near Padstow then?

          See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Obby_%27Oss_festival

          Only May celebrations in Surrey are in Guildford this Saturday morning…………

        • Lady London says:

          Brilliant tip about the Mars Bar @Julian

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