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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • Kenneth says:

    I received my letter from Lloyds in early March. I used my Lloyds Amex card only yesterday to book a hotel in Atlanta. It still works fine. However, as I do have a trip to the US in a couple of weeks, I rang Lloyds to find out when the Amex card would actually stop working. They told me that it won’t work from 15th June, as long as I don’t activate the new Mastercard that they will be sending me this week. The person I spoke to seemed to be knowledgeable on the matter, which, of course, is not always the case when telephoning Lloyds. I shall be taking multiple backup cards with me on my trip.

    • John says:

      Thanks for this, my letter also came in early March and it said 2 months, so I assumed it would stop working in early May but it didn’t.

      No new card or fee refund yet, so I won’t be activating it when it does com as 1.25 Avios is better than 0.4 and I hope my Amex continues to work until around 15 June

      • Kenneth says:

        Just called Lloyds again. Spoke to person who really seemed to have a full grasp of the situation. She confirmed that as long as I don’t use the new card (which has been issued but I have not yet received), the Amex card will continue working until 15 June. It will continue to give 1.25 Avios and will not incur FX fees. They have to give 30 days after the new card is issued so as not to leave the customer without a useable card.

  • Tony says:

    Lloyds really are a joke. I rang to say i’d like to close my credit card, to which they immediately cut the credit limit to £500, well below the outstanding balance, triggering some aggressive letters from Lloyds about overspending. Took three calls to get someone who understood that the fee was to be repaid pro-rata but even to get that back, I’m going to have to make a 4th call.

    They upheld my complaint over the cutting the credit limit without advising me and paid me a whole £20 for the hassle. Sorely tempted to refer to the ombudsman, but their forms aren’t exactly quick to fill in either….

  • Neil P says:

    Currently on holiday in China. My Lloyd’s Avios Amex card was declined at the Ritz Carlton in Shanghai but my Lloyd’s Avios MasterCard on the same account was accepted.

    I have not had a letter but my wife has.

    I cannot see on the Lloyd’s App whether I have been charged a 3% fee.

    Any views from anybody whether I should switch to using my Halifax clarity MasterCard account.

    Whilst I may be contractually better off sticking with my Lloyd’s card and arguing afterwards perhaps it’s better to avoid the fx charge and forego a few Avios anyway.

    It’s ironic that I am here courtesy of two Lloyd’s Avios upgrade vouchers from previous overseas spend on these cards.

    Any thoughts and advice welcome.

    Neil

    • John says:

      In China it’s more important to make sure you didn’t get DCCed (i.e. they forced you to pay in pounds at the hotel’s poor exchange rate). Amex doesn’t allow DCC but that seems to not have been an option for you any more.

    • Jovanna says:

      The fee will show as a separate charge on your statement. It will say ‘NON-STERLING TRANSACTION’. If charged, you’ll see it in the App.

  • JB says:

    Chased Lloyds for an outstanding upgrade voucher and they tell me to call Avios, who in turn tell me it’s Lloyds responsibility to issue them.

    Does anyone know who I should persist with?

    Thanks

  • iain says:

    according to my online banking, I have a new card. New card is showing all my old transactions, including ones from yesterday.

  • Anna says:

    Amex still working this morning – booked tickets as I’m venturing down to that London next year for the Tutankhamun exhibition, which ties in nicely with my 50th/retirement celebrations!

    • Rob says:

      Come say hi, our house is literally 2 minutes away.

      • Anna says:

        Would love to… will be looking for hotel recommendations nearer the time as well!

        • Rob says:

          Sloane Square Hotel
          myHotel Chelsea
          Millennium Sloane Street
          Jumeirah Carlton Tower (but closing for refurb)
          Belmond Cadogan (very plush post refurb)

          Cheapest walkable and decent option is probably the Pestana Chelsea Bridge which is technically in Battersea.

          • Jim says:

            You forgot to add…

            “Don’t even think about staying in my house!!!!”

          • Rob says:

            You wouldn’t want to, with my kids on full power …

  • Cwyfan says:

    Just been online, and a transaction on 15th incurred FX fees. Really annoying as I phoned them before going abroad to check when I would be changed over and was told that I would receive notice.

    Not received a new card either, so stuck.

    Guess I have to start action against it now!

    • Shoestring says:

      That’s actually a good thing, Lloyds are generous with compo & you’ve been inconvenienced

      • Shoestring says:

        & the compo has already started…you need to complain (if inconvenienced), though

  • Mike says:

    My online account still shows my Amex number, I assume that will change if the card has been replaced?

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