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You’ll soon be able to redeem Virgin Flying Club miles on Air France KLM

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It looks like your ability to earn and spend Virgin Flying Club miles on Air France and KLM flights – or, indeed, your ability to earn and spend Flying Blue miles on Virgin Atlantic flights – is closer than ever to going live.

The US Government has approved the restructuring of Virgin Atlantic’s shareholding and the creation of a new transatlantic joint venture with Delta Air Lines, Air France and KLM.  It is subject to a 14 day consultation which is now underway.

Virgin Atlantic joint venture

A little backstory …

Back in 2013, US airline Delta bought a 49% stake in Virgin Atlantic and secured a joint venture across the Atlantic.  This allows both airlines to better compete with British Airways despite a limited slot portfolio at Heathrow and the lack of a short-haul UK feeder network.

Delta also owns a 9% stake in Air France KLM, and both groups are part of the SkyTeam alliance.  It is no surprise that all three airline groups – Delta, Virgin Atlantic and Air France KLM – have been seeking to collaborate more closely.

Two years ago, Virgin Group signed a deal to sell Air France KLM a 31% stake in Virgin Atlantic, diluting Sir Richard Branson’s share to 20%.  In 2018, the three companies announced that they were filing for a transatlantic joint venture. In March 2019, Virgin Atlantic and Air France KLM announced new codeshare routes, the first stage of deepening integration between the airlines as they waited for regulatory approval.


The EU antitrust regulator gave its blessing to the expanded joint venture in February, whilst the US Department of Transportation has taken a little longer.

The US regulator has now given approval for the joint venture pending a fourteen day consultation period which should just be a formality.  Jet Blue does not appear to have succeeded in getting any slots at Heathrow released despite running a high profile campaign which it claimed would increase competition.

What is an airline joint venture?

Joint ventures are regulatory-approved partnerships that allow multiple airlines (in this case Delta, Virgin Atlantic and Air France KLM) to act as one, co-ordinating on pricing and scheduling.

Crucially, joint ventures also pool revenue. Regardless of which particular airline’s aircraft you find yourself on, the revenue generated from you as a passenger is distributed between the co-operating airlines.

Virgin Delta joint venture gets US DOT approval

British Airways has, for many years, operated a transatlantic joint venture with Iberia, American Airlines and Finnair.  Aer Lingus has also applied to join this JV.  BA also has a joint venture with JAL on flights to Japan and with Qatar Airways on flights to Doha.

No matter which airline you actually fly with across the pond, British Airways receives a portion of the revenue.  This is one of the reasons that British Airways maintains such a tight grip on transatlantic flying.

Whilst Delta already had joint venture agreements with Virgin Atlantic and Air France KLM individually, this expanded agreement closes the triangle and allows Virgin Atlantic and Air France KLM to co-ordinate too.

How will the joint venture benefit you as a frequent flyer?

It is obviously debatable whether allowing Delta, Virgin and Air France KLM to jointly set fares and share revenue on transatlantic routes is beneficial for the customer or not.  To the extent that the BA / AA JV already exists, it arguably creates a 2nd grouping which is big enough to challenge.  That said, prices would probably be lower if both joint ventures were shut down.

Ignoring any impact on ticket prices, the joint venture is hugely beneficial for your frequent flyer account.  You will soon be able to earn Virgin Flying Club miles on ALL Delta, Air France and KLM flights, whilst at present your Air France KLM earning is restricted to codeshares. The reverse is true for Flying Blue and Delta SkyMiles members.

You will also have the ability to redeem Virgin Flying Club miles on Air France and KLM flights. We asked Virgin how quickly they were planning to get this live but we did not receive any comment.

This opens up Virgin Flying Club redemption opportunities and makes it a far more interesting loyalty scheme.  You will be able to fly to many, many more places around the world thanks to Air France and KLM’s route networks, and it will make a radical difference to your redemption options flying to Asia, the Middle East and Africa.  Short haul redemptions in Europe will also be possible, albeit with a plane change in Paris or Amsterdam.

We will keep you updated with the Virgin Flying Club news as it is announced.  We have no idea what sort of mileage or taxes we can expect to pay for redemption flights with Air France KLM, which is the only potential sting in the tail.  It will be interesting to see how these are calculated and whether they choose to undercut the very high taxes and fees that British Airways imposes ……


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 15,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

15,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

A generous earning rate for a free card at 0.75 points per £1 Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 40,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 40,000 Virgin Points.

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

(Want to earn more Virgin Points?  Click here to see our recent articles on Virgin Atlantic and Flying Club and click here for our home page with the latest news on earning and spending other airline and hotel points.)

Comments (138)

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  • Colin McC says:

    Good update, thanks. I flew SkyTeam for years and have Platinum for Life status and a bucket load of miles. What will this status translate into when I fly Virgin?

  • Peter Taysum says:

    For those of us in the regions; I have to fly NCL to LHR, so going PAR or AMS makes no difference, and AMS is easy to transit usually; though as I tend to hit Gold for two years and soft land to silver and repeat; I may need to rethink. But I like One World, and I understand BAEC. Mind I’m flying LHR to CDG to make use of the CW fare HfP advertised to go to Seattle over New Year; with a stop off at the Hilton. I’d need to invest a lot more time to get up to speed with the other alliances again; and I need to status match again. I’ve lost status in the other two alliances…

    Hawaiian First (domestic) no lounge; I knew I was earning Avios but no TP thanks to HfP but thought I’d have access to AA with BA Silver (about to hit Gold again); but no….

    *sniffs* 🤣

  • SydneySwan says:

    I hope being able to redeem on KLM / AIr France happens sooner rather than later and with reasonable availability / redemption rates (no doubt too much to ask). I still have 140k of VS points left over from when Virgin decided to cancel their HK – Sydney route shortly after encouraging us to move our Amex points over with a promotion and leaving us in the lurch. I have been struggling to keep them alive ever since.

    • Shoestring says:

      Amex MR transfer, Tesco Clubcard points, Shopsy Away, Virgin Wines are all pretty painless ways to get a few miles

      eg have you signed up for the auto-convert free 1000 Virgin miles this Tesco quarter?

      • SydneySwan says:

        None of those options are available if you live in Sydney as far as I know. Aldi have been here since 2001 but no sign of Tesco arriving anytime soon.

        • Guesswho2000 says:

          The Tesco conversion free 1,000 points works to keep them alive. Of course you need a clubcard account (easily creatable online). I used exactly this to keep my relatively small VS balance alive from Australia.

          Still easy to keep them alive here anyway, Amex MR transfer. If you want to burn them, NZ or SQ are our best bets. Failing that, cash them out into Hilton Honors and use them for hotel stays.

          • SydneySwan says:

            Unfortunately you cannot create a Tesco clubcard account from outside the UK. You need to be accessing the site from within the UK.

          • guesswho2000 says:

            Nothing a VPN can’t circumvent ;o)

          • guesswho2000 says:

            In all seriousness though, Amex Membership Rewards are your easiest bet, as long as you have MR Ascent (Platinum Edge), Ascent Premium (Platinum Charge) or David Jones (for some reason Gateway doesn’t allow transfers to VS – this is the scheme attached to Explorer and Essentials, the black and white Amex cards).

    • Harry T says:

      Just use a VPN service to access the Tesco website via a UK based VPN.

  • NickAnon says:

    Good news for Mrs Anon and I with our trip to OZ… 3 flights each way via Air France, KLM, Qantas, China Southern. Just need to decide where to credit the China Southern miles. Apart from using the where to credit website, any real tips on that?

    • Lady London says:

      Does anyone have any feedback on those China Southern longhaul flights? Also can anyone remind me where can I get an up to date look at safety records for airlines including latest info on the 3 main Chinese ones?

      • Lady London says:

        Agree with you Nick. Plus I detest CDG especially if requiring to change terminals so a change there is bad too.

      • marcw says:

        All Chinese, operating long haul flights, fly into EU and USA. Therefore we can asume they are safe. If you would jump on a Thai flight, any chinese airline should be more than fine. [[ Thai Airways, for instance, is not allowed to fly to the USA…]]

        • ankomonkey says:

          Wasn’t that an issue with Thai airport security rather than with Thai Airways specifically?

  • Nick says:

    With Flybe being acquired by Virgin Connect (Virgin Atlantic / Stobart) it is likely that we will see new routes from regional airports to Manchester, Paris and Amsterdam to connect with the Virgin Atlantic, Air France, KLM and Delta Long Haul services. The downside is changing at Amsterdam Schipol which is an ancient airport at which you need to allow a long transfer window but is good if you are trying to hit your 10,000 target on the Fitbit.

    • Oh! Matron! says:

      I’ve never walked so much in my life than at Schipol! Changi comes close, though!

      • Guesswho2000 says:

        Once you’ve been through HKG a few times, or even DOH, that’ll seem like nothing.

    • Harry T says:

      I actually enjoy the walk. But every time I look at booking KLM flights that connect in Amsterdam, I am worried by their tight connection times – often less than an hour.

      • Spaghetti Town says:

        So do I, flying into DOH from the UK you’ve been sitting down for 6 hours….

  • ankomonkey says:

    Nobody’s mentioned yet the biggest benefit of the JV being approved – redeeming VS miles on KLM to get the delicious stroopwaffels they serve(d) onboard.

    • Rob says:

      And the little ceramic gin containers!

      • Mikeact says:

        I have the complete, unopened set, 99 all told with No 100 out shortly . Makes a good talking point with visitors!

    • Lady London says:

      Amazon sells the stroopwaffels cheaper.

    • marcw says:

      I’ll happily send some troopwaffels over to you, in exchange of Virgin miles.

    • Harry T says:

      KLM has the best milk and stroopwaffels

  • Mikeact says:

    And this is the KL version….easier to read etc.

    https://www.flyingblue.co.uk/en/flights/promo-rewards

    Note, all long haul awards include the connection from the UK with no additional miles required.
    Rules have recently changed re Short/Midhaul…you have to book from Paris or Amsterdam.

    • marcw says:

      But short haul promo awards are really pointless unless you want to go, or live in AMS/PAR. You can travel all the way from EDI to ATH for 10 k miles, even in peak summer. Problem is, you need to monitor the miles value, and book when you think “it’s good value”.

      Interestingly, Flying Blue has also “Miles&Cash” options. however, it’s not available in promo awards (sadly).

  • AAlsc says:

    Amazing, even more people now going after the already limited VS availability!

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