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The new HFP chat thread – Tuesday 21st April

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We have decided to run this new daily chat thread on Head for Points.

Historically, the daily ‘Bits’ articles were the defacto repository for random comments and questions.  It is unlikely that the news flow will be so big over the next few weeks that we will need many ‘Bits’ articles, however.

The comments under this article are where you should post questions about travel and, indeed, anything else on your mind.  At this tricky time, and given that many of you are stuck at home self-isolating, we want the HFP community to have a place to chat.

Please only comment under the main articles on the site if your comment is directly related to the topic of the article.  This has long-term benefits as its keeps the commentary relevant for people who read those articles in the future.

By default, HFP shows the last page of comments under the article.  If you want to see the first page of comments and read them all from beginning to end in order, click here: The page will refresh with this article but the comments will now show the first page and not the last page.

We will continue to monitor how this is working:

we could potentially split it into a daily travel and non-travel chat thread

we may install some basic forum software

we may start suggesting potential topics for daily discussion

Let’s see how it goes.  Take care!

Comments (134)

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  • Ross Alexander Mitchell says:

    Looking for advice on my cancelled BA 2-4-1 voucher booking to CHS for May 7th.
    Ideally I just want to rebook the same trip for the same dates next year, but if I get a voucher it needs to be used before May 7 next year, and if I get a refund my 2-4-1 voucher will only be valid until end of the 2020 (inc. 6 month ext.).
    Any advice?

    • AJA says:

      Ross, not sure what advice you want? The problem with the e-voucher is that you have to call up to redeem it and travel has to be completed within 12 months of the date of the voucher (which is based on the outbound flight) which means you can’t just rebook for the same dates next year and you would also be reliant on finding reward seats anyway.even if you choose the same or a different destination with Avios in the same zone.

      You won’t be able to use the 2-4-1 again for the same dates as you state it will expire even sooner.

      I think it’s still best to cancel and get everything back rather than take the e-voucher. At least you could use the 2-4-1 on another trip entirely (assuming flying is back to some normality by the end of the year). You would at least have the avios and cash the meantime.

      • Ross Alexander Mitchell says:

        I’m almost certain we won’t find flights / destination we want to go to as a young family later this year based on what we know so far, and don’t want to lose the 2-4-1 due to Covid.

        I’m hoping if I call BA they will help me rebook for next year, but the voucher rules and 355 days rule obviously make that difficult.

        if only they were offering a 12 month extension to the 2-4-1 vouchers!

  • Sam Kennedy says:

    Hi all,

    Is anyone else is in the same position as me? I requested a refund of an Avios 241 flight using Antonio’s workaround on Chrome 20 days ago. I received a cancellation confirmation email but haven’t received the Avios or cash yet. The Avios came from a household account and I did change the date of the outbound in January, well before the current situation was in place.

    How long are people finding it takes to receive their refunds, both cash and Avios?

    • h2d says:

      I was in a similar position – transpired that despite the workaround and automated email at the BA end nothing was in process i.e. they were waiting for me to request a refund or voucher. I suggest you ring BA and check that the refund is in process and if not ask them to action. After doing this my avois were redeposited in 2 days and cash component returned in ca. 7.

  • The Rooster says:

    Am I correct in thinking that I can’t use a BA 241 voucher to fly from LHR – MCO then LAX- LHR?

    I haven’t collected Avios before only Virgin and trying to “diversity” my portfolio

    • Matt says:

      No, that would be fine. For open jaws, so A to B then C to A, the distance between B and C has to be less than either A-B or A-C. In your case LHR-LAX is 5456 miles and MCO-LGW is 4353 miles, which are both bigger than LAX-MCO which is 2218.

      That itinerary would be fine.

    • Anna says:

      Just remember you will either have to call BA to make the entire booking, or get fleeced for inflated “taxes and fees” if you book separate legs online. (Or you can book the outbound online then call BA to add the return). Availability might be an issue if you don’t jump on the seats as soon as they are released depending on your travel dates.

    • Anna says:

      Also I think BA flies to MCO from LGW but could be wrong. I think you can still do this with a 2 4 1 though.

  • Vit says:

    IHG Reward Club card (free one) — got 10k points overnight after hitting £200 total spend. Gonna hit £500 by the end of this month. Based on people’s past experience here, how soon will the additional 10k points be awarded/posted?

    • BigSi says:

      @Vit. How long after spending the £200 did the points post?

    • Youllnever says:

      Have any of those been Curve spend?

      • Travel Strong says:

        Does it matter? (Asking as most of my IHG spend has been CRV transactions!)

        • Youllnever says:

          Was just wondering because the Rev. Top-ups I’ve done didn’t trigger the welcome bonus. Wasn’t sure if payments to places like the gulls via Curve would trigger it.

          • stevenhp1987 says:

            Curve is fine with IHG.

            Limited to £700pw on MCC 6012.

            MCC 9399 is great though!

          • Heathrow Flyer says:

            How do you find out the MCC on these transctions?

          • Youllnever says:

            @stevenhp1987 Am I right in saying 6012 transactions need to be paid off immediately to avoid interest?

          • stevenhp1987 says:

            @Youllnever 6012 is a purchase with creation. So no interest accrues.

          • Youllnever says:

            @stevenhp1987 thanks! Out of interest, have you tried IHG with investment platforms like Vanguard? How well do they get along?

      • Vit says:

        Nope. I don’t have Curve anyway. 🙂

    • Pierre says:

      While the initial 10k points posted straight away, the bonus 10k took a while. Posted for us around 2 weeks after the next card statement, which was in total around 5 weeks after the spend had been done.

    • Secret Squirrel says:

      4 x weeks straight into ihg account and not into your creation acct.

    • Dezbez says:

      Initial 10k showed very quickly onto the app once I’d hit the spend, the second 10k went straight into my ihg account, but took 2-3 weeks after hitting £500 spend to do so. Seems a pretty slick/integrated process still though.

    • LewisB says:

      I don’t have this offer on my gold but I do have a 9,000 offer for referrals instead until June 29th.

    • Matthew says:

      My extra 10,000 were posted direct into IHG account about 10 days after reaching the spend threshold.

  • Andrew M says:

    I attained 115k Flying Club miles this week and redeemed them for a return flight to Johannesburg.
    Assuming I can fly in March next year – does anyone have any experience of row 1 ? One blog suggests that there is 5 inches more legroom. And I need the legroom!
    Thank you in advance

    • Nick says:

      On the A350-1000? I’d recommend row 1. Slightly different layout and a bit more roomy. No significant galley noise either. (Although I do sleep with earplugs in flight).

  • Steve says:

    I’ve just logged into Amex Platinum and seen a promotional rate for statement credits: 1,000 Membership Reward points = £9 credit, which is 0.9p per point (it actually works out at almost 0.91p when I click through). These cash credits are usually poor value – I think around 0.4-0.5p normally. I’m not sure if I’ll be a taker – I’m not immediately dismissing it as I do have a relatively large MR balance, and obviously no travel opportunities in the near future in which to use transferred airline points, which is how I normally redeem. Thoughts?

    • Jon says:

      Good deal in my book: bite their hand off!

      Unlike Rob I don’t value an Avios at 1p, more like 0.5-0.75p based on cheap cash fares and expensive fees with redemptions.

      • Rob says:

        I agree, that’s not a bad offer. Let’s see if we all have it.

        • BigSi says:

          I have the offer on AMEX platinum but can’t use it. I think its because my account is in credit from all the flight refunds 🙂 Will use up the credits and check again.

    • Tony says:

      Just checked my Gold and I am still having the old £4.5 per 1000 MR

    • H7_Inthis says:

      I have it on my Platinum as well – for those who were trying to find it in the “My Offers” section it won’t appear there. Go straight to your statement and click on “Use Points towards purchases” – the new rate should appear.

      Think I’ll cash in some of these points…

  • mark2 says:

    Am I missing out?
    I have not received any notifications from Curve when I use my card.
    Is it because I am running the app under BlueStacks on a desktop?

    • aDifferentSimon says:

      no, they are flaky for everyone – see the posts on the first page of today or the thread on the curve community bug reports

  • Baji Nahid says:

    Hi there,

    anyone had any experience in dealing with disputes with their IHG Credit Cards and could possibly tell me how the experience was. I sent an email back with a lot of information and screenshots (wrote an essay) and hopefully i get my money refunded under section75.

    Also does anyone know how long it takes for amex to credit back an amount after a successful section75 claim? I done one against ryanair for taking ages to refund.

    Sorry for the repetitive questions but i am very thankful for you all for your generosity in sharing knowledge. I have learnt a lot.

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