The new HFP chat thread – Sunday 10th May

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We have decided to run this new daily chat thread on Head for Points.

Historically, the daily ‘Bits’ articles were the defacto repository for random comments and questions.  It is unlikely that the news flow will be so big over the next few weeks that we will need many ‘Bits’ articles, however.

The comments under this article are where you should post questions about travel and, indeed, anything else on your mind.  At this tricky time, and given that many of you are stuck at home self-isolating, we want the HFP community to have a place to chat.

Please only comment under the main articles on the site if your comment is directly related to the topic of the article.  This has long-term benefits as its keeps the commentary relevant for people who read those articles in the future.

By default, HFP shows the last page of comments under the article.  If you want to see the first page of comments and read them all from beginning to end in order, click here: The page will refresh with this article but the comments will now show the first page and not the last page.

We will continue to monitor how this is working.  Let’s see how it goes.  Take care!

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  1. OK, actually want to go to Denver. See the availability isn’t until July now. Don’t want to go in July – possibly not allowed either!

    Definitely will want to go in either October or March, probably March – and definitely want to go in F or upper deck CW (if 747 still running?) . So because of 747 query, would be F in case of substitutions.

    I know Mrs Colin won’t last any longer than March away from grandkids in the flesh!

    (but I have been saving up avios for a multi-partner round-the-world – dear alone knows when that will happen. And I don’t want to break my Amex cycle by getting another BA card, for another 241, just yet)

  2. Stephen says:

    Any positive Lufthansa refund stories, when flights are still operating but ONLY for residents? E.g. New Zealand / Hong Kong?

    • marcw says:

      Nope. As a passenger, it´s your responsibility to know and adapt to entry requirements. Check you insurance.

      • Stephen says:

        Unfortunately, insurance have said they won’t cover it. Booked prior to these restrictions being added.

        • Lady London says:

          Have you definitely checked the insurance terms you were provided on the day you bought the policy?Even if for newer policies your insurer may have changed its terms,they can’t change away from what you bought on the day you bought for the period of cover that you bought.

  3. Baji Nahid says:

    Has anyone done a S75 with IHG/Creation?

    I emailed them all the evidence but i bet you they are probably swamped right now.

    • Michael says:

      I contacted their disputes department about an issue not related to an S75 claim. I was advised both on the phone by the agent and via email that disputes are taking at least 4 weeks to process.

  4. So Boris has confirmed quarantine on passengers incoming to the UK. Now what?

    • Air passengers – not Eurostar / Eurotunnel / ferry.

    • Travel Strong says:

      Other countries restrictions on incoming Britons is what I will now be monitoring.

      We have been ‘given notice’ of a non-specific quarantine requirement for incoming air passengers, when our infection rate is lower than elsewhere.

      But this is only one half of the puzzle. The border restrictions of the country (or countries) you are visiting or passing through is equally important (especially if considering a land-based return route)

      • TGLoyalty says:

        Given notice of what exactly?

        Sea and Train won’t be restricted therefore outside EU/EEA only? Who knows.

        Guess we will actually find out what his blabbering meant when it starts going through Parliament.

        • Lockdown Larry says:

          It won’t apply to France apparently. Does that mean that the government don’t think anyone could bring the disease in from France but they could from other countries?

          • Anna (the original) says:

            So we can go to France, but not Spain? (In theory, I don’t necessarily want to go anywhere in the short to medium term.) Are we less likely to infect the French than the Spanish?

    • He didn’t confirm anything. He just said soon. Soon can easily turn into never.

    • Mr(s) Entitled says:


      Fly direct to the UK = quarantine
      Fly to Paris and hop on a train = no quarantine

      And lots of other examples.

      I think the Gov’t has largely been in an impossible situation where they are damn if they do and damn if they don’t whilst constantly being judged by hindsight. But whatever fig leaf of credibility they had is slipping by the day.

      • Anna (the original) says:

        Well exactly. Fly direct from Paris – 14 day quarantine. Drive the same distance, stopping at every small town and petrol station possibly shedding virus – fine.

  5. Unsavage gerbil says:

    Totally Unenforceable.

    Given he didn’t bother to show for the COBRA meetings, and heed the advice of the experts warning of a pandemic,and therefore is in large part responsible for more deaths. Why should we believe a word he says, he has a charge sheet of lying when it suits him going back decades.

    • Travel Strong says:

      You do not have to ‘believe’ Boris. Believe things written into legislation and FCO advice that impacts any contractual terms relevant to you (if any).

      • TGLoyalty says:

        FCO advice is exactly that “advice” there’s nothing enforceable about it.

        ATOL registered Holiday firms do have to listen to it though and insurance may or may not pay out based upon it and your type of cover.

  6. Optimus Prime says:

    Looks like Avianca has entered bankruptcy

  7. Ronald Jeremy says:


  8. FloriGuy says:


    Some people are mentioning this. How are people topping up if they cannot do PO for top-ups? Surely if people are using Curve there are better outlets for that?

    • The Urbanite says:

      Top up methods shown here –

      • What is a PO?

      • Any account I can top up with credit cards? I don’t care about cash fee. I am blocked from revoult.
        I am using curve for Isa fund
        Someone kindly advise

    • Ashish says:

      Curve works I have done this.
      I think they are using apple or Google but I am unable to discover how.

    • ashish says:

      Some of these people manage £100’000 limit and some £500’000 so they have lots to use with monese and pay Amex and all this other things

      • Thanks Ashish. Think Amex now properly blocked for curve repayments (Or pay fronted fee)
        Are You saying can pay to load from Credit card onto Monese via curve still? Can you Amex onto monese at post office?

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