The new HFP chat thread – Friday 22nd May

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We have decided to run this new daily chat thread on Head for Points.

Historically, the daily ‘Bits’ articles were the defacto repository for random comments and questions.  It is unlikely that the news flow will be so big over the next few weeks that we will need many ‘Bits’ articles, however.

The comments under this article are where you should post questions about travel and, indeed, anything else on your mind.  At this tricky time, and given that many of you are stuck at home self-isolating, we want the HFP community to have a place to chat.

Please only comment under the main articles on the site if your comment is directly related to the topic of the article.  This has long-term benefits as its keeps the commentary relevant for people who read those articles in the future.

By default, HFP shows the last page of comments under the article.  If you want to see the first page of comments and read them all from beginning to end in order, click here: https://www.headforpoints.com/2020/05/22/the-new-hfp-chat-thread-friday-22nd-may/comment-page-1.  The page will refresh with this article but the comments will now show the first page and not the last page.

We will continue to monitor how this is working.  Let’s see how it goes.  Take care!

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Comments

  1. Peter North says:

    Play Priti Patel bingo.

    Absolutely,
    Movin forward
    Let me be clear
    Quite Frankly
    Goin Forward
    The key Thing
    The Fact of the Matter is
    Committed to Doin
    But Also

    • Michael says:

      I hear far more people from a similar background on the Left speaking like this. Priti is gorgeous. A handsome craft. She’s almost 50! I want her surgeon…even her face cream.

    • Heathrow Flyer says:

      I’m not sure she properly answered one question that was put to her.

    • mr_jetlag says:

      “Let me be clear ” anytime a politician ejaculates this phrase I know the next words out of their mouths are a waste of oxygen

      Whoever trained the twits at Oxbridge PPE must have had a bet going on how many times they could get this phrase on PMQs…

  2. What is the situation in the Republic of Ireland? Are they also quarantining anyone who enters the country – if not a UK quarantine is doubly pointless?

    • Apologies, just read that Eire is also imposing 14 day quarantine. However, this means that the UK and Ireland will have to review this at the same intervals and agree on whether to continue or not, otherwise it is definitely pointless!

      • It still is pointless, you fly to Dublin, you tell immigration there you’re entering the UK, then you enter the UK via the CTA arrivals route (therefore you don’t go through immigration in the UK). If you’re worried about Ireland passing your details to the UK just book a night at a hotel near the airport and give that as your address, then travel to the UK the next day.

      • Bit more complicated than that.

        There is an existing form to fill in and – unless on transit, including to N Ireland by road, or GB by air/sea – you’re supposed to hand it over at Dublin airport, and then self-isolate for 14 days:

        https://www2.hse.ie/file-library/coronavirus/covid-19-public-health-passenger-locator-form.pdf

        But most recent published figures showed more than a third of passengers didn’t bother to complete and return the form before leaving airport. And not all who did, were actually contactable on address/mobile number they supplied.

        This led to Michael O’Leary saying whole exercise is pointless. But…

        Presumably coordinating with Patel, Leo Varadkar regime today said failure to complete form will soon be illegal:

        https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0522/1140009-travel-to-ireland/

        Although travel advice has yet to be updated:

        https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/e885b2-covid-19-coronavirus-travel-advice/

        Theoretically, somebody could indeed fly JFK-DUB or CDG-DUB on still operating Aer Lingus service, then fill in form before hopping on DUB-LHR service. But likely Border Force at LHR would literally make the connection.

        However, taking train or aircoach to Belfast and then flying EI’s BHD-LHR shouldn’t be automatically flagged. Then there are the ferries…

        Basically UK and ROI both went into travel lockdown too late, and are trying to remain in it too late, for political reasons.

      • Trivial I know but I find it really weird that anyone uses the word Eire these days.

        • I just thought it was Gaelic for Ireland, like you might say La France or Espana. But come to think of it I haven’t heard it referred to like that for a long time,

          • It’s the official name of the country in Irish Gaelic (thus on stamps, banknotes etc). In English, it’s Ireland. Not a big issue though.

  3. Simon Shchus says:

    I’m a UK Citizen who lives outside the UK… and I like to visit the UK for a few days at a time: 3 days, 2 days, 4 days. I’ve got a place I can quarantine easily – and that was actually my plan for my next trip. From airport, the my place of quarantine – stay in that place for 3 days – and then head back to the airport (I’ll have no need to leave the house, other than to go to/from the airport!). I’m not going to be in the exemptions list of critical workers. In those circumstance, I presume that I would be breaking the rules if I travelled back to the airport to head ‘home’ after Day 3… rather than after Day 14. If I got a call on Day 5, Day 8, Day 10… I’d be breaking my quarantine as I’d have left the UK!

    I’ll keep looking at the guidance when it is published in more detail – to see if there is anything pertaining this this type of circumstance, but I doubt it.

    • mr_jetlag says:

      Duh… you’d be breaking quarantine as obviously you’d be in an airport / plane / other public place before your 14 days were up.

  4. Mike P says:

    I think the point is that an awful lot of people will either stick to the rules or, more likely, simply not travel because of these new measures. The general public is neither as interested in, or as knowledgable about, international travel as the average poster on HFP or Flyertalk.

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