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British Airways has unveiled its revised pay proposal today for cabin crew.

This is, it has to be said, an improvement on the original package.  The winners are current Mixed Fleet crew who will see a modest increase in their total earnings.  This should be enough to finally put to bed any threat of strike action by cabin crew.

It does, of course, still represent a sharp cut in pay for legacy crew members.  Legacy crew who accept the new package will also have to commit to mixed long-haul and short-haul flying with poorer working conditions.

British Airways new cabin crew pay package

This is how the proposed new package looks:

Cabin crew:

Total target earnings: £28,000

Comprising:

  • Base salary – £17,000 (£16,000 for new entrants)
  • Duty pay based on hours flown – £3,000 to £5,000
  • Incentive pay – £1,000
  • Flex allowance – £850
  • Per diem – £3,500 to £5,500

Remember that the ‘per diem’ includes payment that normal employees would consider expenses such as meal allowances when away.  The incentive payment is target based.

’Flex allowance’ is a sum which cannot be taken as cash but can be used towards certain employee benefits or paid into a pension plan.

Realistically …. if you assume that crew spend 75% of their ‘per diem’ money on living expenses whilst away, and that the bonus is not triggered, you are looking at £17,000 + £4,000 average duty pay + £1,100 ‘profit’ on the per diem, which is £22,100, plus the £850 of non-cash benefits or additional pension contribution.

For comparison, based on the latest numbers I could find, Virgin Atlantic crew start on £17,000, rising to £18,500 after four years.  They receive additional ‘trip pay’ of £96 per return trip, with five to six trips per months, plus an overnight allowance.  This is a different sort of role, of course, as it is exclusively long-haul flying.

British Airways cabin crew new pay deal

Lead cabin crew:

Total target earnings: £31,000

Comprising:

  • Base salary – £20,000
  • Duty pay based on hours flown – £3,000 to £5,000
  • Incentive pay – £1,000
  • Flex allowance – £1,000
  • Per diem – £3,500 to £5,500

Manager:

Total target earnings: £39,000

Comprising:

  • Base salary – £32,000
  • Incentive pay – £2,000
  • Flex allowance – £1,600
  • Per diem – £3,500 to £5,500

On top of this, all crew will receive pension contributions of up to 11% and staff travel concessions.

British Airways says that this is a ‘market leading package’.  It will still be a tough pill for existing legacy cabin crew to swallow, however – even £39,000 for a Manager represents a 33% pay cut for most legacy Cabin Service Directors.  For standard cabin crew on a legacy contract, the drop would be similar.

In the short term I reckon that British Airways needs at least 50% of legacy crew to remain with the business if it is to run a 60% schedule. Will enough stay?


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Comments (295)

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  • Helen Turley says:

    Of course they are offering Mixed fleet more money, they earn so little any increase would be better than the rubbish they are paid. My brother works on mixed fleet, and for a good many years, he has not been furloughed and is flying, putting his life on the line, flying to India and other places No social distancing of passengers, no extra pay for that !and flying. traveling miles to get to work, and all while many are getting paid for doing nothing, at 80%, So now they are offering the furloughed staff (only the mixed fleet,) extra pay for the flight money they have missed ! Don’t you realise they are trying to Divide and Conquer ?? They are offering you this increase so that you accept it, and they then are then able to continue to put on flights with ‘ happy staff’ who have been given a pay rise !! You know what they will do in a few years time? Reduce your wages again, Willie will be gone by then, but he will have achieved what he wanted to do, cut Ts and Cs and reduce the pay of many, because years ago, when he tried the same ploy, staff went on strike, he had to back down, he didn’t succeed. You will be working for a company who will have lost a lot of credibility which was grown through those staff who are going to be having their wages slashed and their lives ruined.
    You have done so much in the last few weeks to try to ensure you stop this disgraceful treatment of a work force. Everyone needs a decent wage and the Ts and Cs you deserve. Don’t just accept this because there is a bit more money on the table for mixed fleet, you need to stand united to fight for what you all deserve, so that once again you are proud to work for a company that cares about its workforce, a workforce who have always cared about the passengers , and hopefully once the CEO and Willie are out, a board who care about you !

    • Wendy Robinsex says:

      The best comment I’ve read in months – and from someone that clearly has an insight as to what is happening within BA. Well said Helen !

    • Briandt says:

      No sympathy, he’s been flying for many years and has put up with it ? Doesn’t make sense..should have moved on years ago.

      • Briandt says:

        It’s not a question of not being compassionate ….my comment stands, he’s obviously unhappy and should have changed jobs…a long time ago…easy

        • Capt Hammond says:

          Briandt – give up now before you embarrass yourself even more. Perhaps stick to writing your uninformed comments on tHe Daily Mail website. You’ll be very welcome there.

        • Ralph says:

          I hate to say it, but you are totally right. Having a constantly moaning employee is a fiasco both for the employee and the employer. If you really don’t like your job you need to find another one that suits you better. In my 30+ working years the whingers were all highly dispensable.

    • TOM ELLIOTT says:

      I know of legacy friends/ crew earning £52-56k doing 30 hour weeks including all benefits when non legacy same work..same hours…£28-£30k ..

      How can any BA Legacy colleague look their non legacy colleagues in the face and think this is fair..No wonder the carrier is going down the tubes…

      • Rob says:

        They don’t look them in the face because they are separate teams!

      • jim says:

        maybe coz that’s the contract they signed with pay on fixed fleet im sure if you were in the same position you would not be best pleased if you were on legacy fleet now

      • Paul says:

        You’ve clearly go no idea. I know both members of both WW & MF (I’m not in the airline so no axe to grind) WW don’t look down their noses, they have worked many many years to get to where they are, they have fought for their T7C’s over the years, They have given into the likes of Willie Walsh to help the airlines during troubled times and all they have been rewarded with is broken promise.
        BA is not going down the pan, but if they carry on with these draconiun ideas they may well finish up with no crew and no passengers and that will result in no airline and I’m not convinced that isn’t the end goal for IAG. Move everything to Madrid apart from a few valuable slots and shut BA down

        • Ralph says:

          WW has fought for pay increases and improved T&Cs at the expense of passengers (by striking) and the long term financial health which they never considered was ultimately important for their jobs. Most do a great job, but there are also a great many WW crew who display incredible disdain for passengers, clearly don’t enjoy the job but couldn’t earn as much in another role. Essentially, over the years they have negotiated (or overplayed) their way out of a job. Any sensible business that has a group of people being paid c. 50% more than others doing the same job and thus also 50% more than competitors would be taking the same decisions.

          • J says:

            Of course there need to be redundancies while demand is depressed – but as demand recovers BA will go back to being a cash cow. BA have repeatedly cut pay and conditions over the years, demanding good will from their staff while claiming to be in a “fight for survival” – but when the good times return BA still treat their staff with contempt.

          • Lady London says:

            +1 unfortunately an all too frequent attitude of British employers historically. Such rotten employers are unfortunately sustainably supported by the UK’s $h1tty low level of protection for employees.

            I’ve had business owners in my partner’s family tell me they will never pay any more than minimum wage and only the minimum contract required as they know they can do this and the employee has to claim benefits while working to support their families. So the rest of us must subsidise quite a lot of jobs and employets in the UK. Employees witbout children often get nothing.

    • Paul says:

      Very well put.
      You all need to stick together

  • Debra Kirk says:

    What a joke

  • blodge says:

    So it looks like a similar / slightly better contract for existing MF crew. Presumably they would be on board then if it came to a vote. Sounds like a tricky situation for Unite now. They can’t really back down, but asking MF to vote down this kind of proposal seems futile, they would only be doing it to protect the legacy fleets

    • Thumshie says:

      There does seem a bit of irony that MF are on their current poor salary/benefits because the legacy crew decided to allow BA years ago to allow new recruits to be taken on such inferior terms rather than fighting for their fellow crew members or allow it to effect their terms. Seems legacy were looking after themselves then and now expect the MF to look after them now

      • yorkieflyer says:

        Exactly right

        • Nick says:

          Not ‘exactly right’. Please explain how UK law would allow the legacy crew to ‘fight’ for their colleagues. That’s right, it doesn’t.

          • Lady London says:

            At one time in the UK the firemen went on strike for the nurses. It was successful but as this is the UK, strike action on behalf of others has since been made illegal.

          • J says:

            Exactly LL. France and Belgium this is still quite common and unofficial “wild cat” strikes are not punished as severely (or at all). I don’t think this is a model to emulate though – the German model of robust employee protections, employees on the board, Works Council etc seems to serve normal people a lot better. There’ll be big cuts at Lufthansa too but it won’t be such a hard fall for those affected.

      • J says:

        Worldwide/Euro fleet (“legacy” fleets) strongly opposed the creation of Mixed Fleet – and even took industrial action over its creation. But they lost, and a non-unionised Mixed Fleet was created, MF since unionised but are covered by a separate contract and a separate union agreement. Under the UK’s very strict trade union laws (called “anti-union” laws by many of those in trade unions) it would be *illegal* for legacy fleets to get involved in a dispute with MF, they would literally bankrupt themselves by doing so.

        • AJA says:

          @J Wasn’t MF created because legacy crew didn’t want to accept a reduction in their T&Cs 10 years ago? That is what they were striking over.

          They didn’t oppose the creation of MF as long as legacy crews kept their own T&Cs.

          I am not saying I agree with BA’s actions or motives at the time or today in levelling down rather than levelling up but it created the problem that BA is now trying to resolve.

          That said it really makes sense from an operational perspective to have all crew on one contract.

          I think if BA set the base as they’ve done above but also flexed it to take into account length of service that would make it more acceptable.

          Will MF crew who have been working for 10 years have their salary reset to these new T&Cs? In other words are some MF crew going to see a salary reduction albeit much smaller than legacy crew? It is presented as a slight salary increase on their previous contract.

          • J says:

            They did oppose the creation of MF – the union wasn’t stupid and obviously knew that down the line there’d be pressure to bring the two together with the same pay and conditions. I believe there even was a legal challenge at the time but they lost.

          • Paul says:

            Everybody bar new recruits would be on the same contract and when you read the small print it is a pay reductions for eveybody, they’ve just worded the headline to suggest otherwise. BA trying their usual tactics. Making announcements through the press rather than speaking to their staff directly.

  • John Livermore says:

    The self-entitlement in some of these messages from BA crew is astonishing.

  • Mikeact says:

    What a contentious subject. I can’t get my head around who’s right and who’s wrong, who’s telling the truth and who’s telling porky pies. Just where does the truth lie?
    Every comment seems to elicit counter arguments, which all seem to make a bit of sense.
    And so it goes on…..

  • John says:

    Not good news, sadly, at IAG’s (actually better on N America longhaul, about the same EU/domestic) EI subsidiary:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0619/1148502-aer-lingus-job-losses-covid/

  • Opus says:

    For like the 1099th time. There are no zero hour contracts.

  • BJ says:

    Over 20 million people accounting for over 40% of the UK working population pay no tax because they earn less than £12,500pa. Personally, I think this is a scandal and instead of bickering about entitlement of BA legacy crew (virtually all of whom will be basic rate taxpayers) to their terms and wages, it would be more fitting if we concerned ourselves with addressing fundamental issues relating to the distribution of wealth in our country. Current trends are unsustainable and our society will become increasingly dysfunctional and divided unless there is a rebalancing of wealth from highest and higher rate taxpayers towards basic rate taxpayers like BA crew, and particularly to those that do not pay tax at all. I just feel comments begrudging BA legacy crew their basic-rate wages is a bit unseemly, as is the behaviour of BA towards its employees.

    • Erico1875 says:

      Many of these szub 12.5K earners will be having their earnings topped up with benefits/ universal credit etc.
      This is a scandal. If a business can not afford or doesnt want to pay their employees enough to live on, then that business is not a viable business.
      The taxpayer is subsidising all these minimum wage employers.
      This money should be clawed back from any profits before any share holder dividends

      • BJ says:

        Unless they have kids then they are probably not getting all that much in benefits. A lot must be young people or single people who probably get a small working tax credit, and housing bebefit which will often be to pay for substandard accommodation. But, AFAIK, people on substantially higher incomes also qualify for child- and housing -related benefits. Agree on companies exploiting the system to pay minimum wages.

        • Josh says:

          Housing related benefits on much higher incomes?

          • BJ says:

            Not knowledgable as to how the benefits system works Josh but I was under the impression that support for rent reflected both income and average rents in the areas people live but I could be wrong.

        • Lady London says:

          +1 BJ, on everything you’ve said

      • Anuj says:

        I know someone who makes roughly £13k and they get no universal credit.

        • Rob says:

          My brother gets tax credits IIRC – he is a full time physio and his wife a teacher, probably £50-55k between them. Two kids and mortgage though.

    • Ralph says:

      BJ, I assume you are just trying to wind people up as you know your ‘stat’ is total nonsense. If you worked 40 hours a week at minimum wage in 2019 you had a salary of over £16,000. If you want the facts, look at the HMRC website:-

      https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/personal-income-by-tax-year

      which breaks down the figures in multiple ways. You seem to forget also that there are a great many people (Eg students) who choose to work part time so earn less on annualised basis.

      The 2019 median wage in the UK was just over £30k.

      BJ is not wrong about inequality, but you should bear in mind that the top 10% of taxpayers pay over half of the total income tax paid.

      • Richard says:

        Of course the top 10% by income pay loads of the *income* tax they have loads of the income!

        When you consider *all* taxes, so capture the effect of VAT, duties, NI, dividend and cap gains rates etc etc many different studies have found the tax burden in the UK to be essentially flat across every point of the income distribution.

      • BJ says:

        No Ralph, I’m not trying to wind anybody up. Those figures were widely reported in the media last year, and IIRC they came from the IFS. Obviously the numbers will vary depending on whether they are based on total number of taxpayers, working population, adult population or whatever. I don’t know how they were determined but given they were widely reported it seems likely they were reliable gor what they are.

        • BJ says:

          And I should add too that many likely work less than 40h/w at minimum wages but unlike the students you refer to, do not do so by choice.

        • AJA says:

          BJ If someone on the current national living wage of £8.72 per hour works 40 hours per week for 52 weeks a year they will earn £18,137 per annum Therefore must be a fair number of people working part-time included in that 20million figure you quote.

          Whether they work part-time at their own request or whether it is imposed upon them is a different argument and probably the one we should be having. It is the same argument for and against zero hours contracts..

          And they should be being paid the national minimum wage This has increased from £5.93 per hour in 2010 to £8.72 per hour since April 2020, an increase of 47% over that time. It must also be remembered that the reason they don’t pay any tax is because the personal allowance has risen by 93% since 2010/11 when it was only £6,475 per annum.

          • BJ says:

            Changes nothing though AJA, the big picture remains the same – a huge number of people have a low income. All you are doing is comparing what people have the potential to earn to what they actually earn whatever the reason may be for them earning less. I’m not disputing the extent to which the minimum wage (I refuse to dignify it as national living wage) has increased is a good thing, but that’s mainly because it is shifting more of the burden to employers who should be footing the bill for their staff. . However, it’s not so great for employees who don’t get the full benefit from it because as their wages increase their tax credits decrease so the rate at which their income has grown is less than the rate of growth in the minimum wage. The problem was exacerbated too by George Osborne increasing the taper rate at which tax credits are clawed back IIRC. Anyway, that’s it as I see it but I’m not pretending to understand it in detail although I do think I’m in thd right ballpark. @J undoubtedly has much more facts and figures to hand.

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