The new HFP chat thread – Wednesday 1st July

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Historically, the daily ‘Bits’ articles were the defacto repository for random comments and questions.  It is unlikely that the news flow will be so big over the next few weeks that we will need many ‘Bits’ articles, however.

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  1. Michael says:

    Random one: I have a transferrable voucher which can grant someone S7 Gold status (Oneworld Sapphire) valid until 28 Feb 2022. I’d be willing to sell it on. Let me know if you’d be interested michael . j . reay @

  2. memesweeper says:

    So I was considering cancelling a trip as FCO advice is against all but essential travel, my main concern being lack of medical or other insurance. Astonishingly, although they (rightly) won’t cover cancellation/disruption caused by covid-19, Aviva/HSBC Premier *will* still cover medical expenses right now even if you travel against FCO advice. Or at least that’s my reading of this:-

    • memesweeper says:

      … and if you don’t already have it, this also from the FAQ:-

      I’m thinking about buying a travel insurance policy, will I be covered for coronavirus?
      We’ve decided to temporarily withdraw HSBC Travel Insurance from sale to new customers.

  3. Can anyone fill me in on additional cards on my Platinum Amex in my own name? How do I get one / what should I ask for? Can I have one *in addition* to the rest that I’m allowed. Does anyone have a handy link? I’ve been searching for info for ages – certain I’ve read about it here, but can’t find it.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Just apply for one in your own name.

      Having another platinum in your own name would be useless but you can have 1 gold as well as anyone else who has a gold.

      • Andrew says:

        This isn’t quite correct. The primary member can have an ‘AC’ (additional card) as well as a supplementary Platinum card for someone else. But the AC card won’t come with its own Priority Pass etc. The idea behind the AC card is so that you can split your personal and business expenses more easily if you want to or for any other splitting such as clothes/entertainment and then household expenses, as the AC transactions will be listed separately like the supp transactions are. The other advantage of having an AC card is that it has its own log-in and therefore its own offers, particularly useful if you’re a heavy Shop Smaller or if you were quick off the mark with the £100 offer last month. So you can have two Plats in your name, one in another person’s name and four golds, meaning a total of 7 cards, but only 6 cardholders.

  4. Pat the Postie says:

    OT Just wondering if anyone else has had their IHG card declined today, I suspect I need to phone up although it worked in the morning

    • Paul74 says:

      Used mine in a coffee shop about 15-20 minutes ago, no issues.

    • Andrew M says:

      What were you doing with the IHG card when it was declined?

    • Chrisasaurus says:

      Yep, mine since yesterday – small medium and large txns (Inc 3.34 Ebay via curve) all declined.

      Card is in credit ahead of a (planned) revolut top but camt charge anything to it right now.

      Also have marriott creation card and that one is fine

      • Genghis says:

        Don’t creation tell you off for putting account in credit?

        • stevenhp1987 says:

          I’ve accidentally fine in credit a few times (paid online ready to clear pending balance so I can spend again), they’ve never moaned at me.

          The only annoying thing is you cannot have more than your credit limit as pending.

          So if you overpay you cannot spend more than your limit and have to wait for it to clear before continuing.

          • The Urbanite says:

            The Creation payment system is a wonder to behold – as is HSBC Premier’s! Once you work out those kind of technical aspects you come to appreciate their quirks!

          • Genghis says:

            As in HSBC’s? All I know is that I struggle to lay it off the day a charge hits. If there’s an opportunity, please can you get in touch on Twitter, genghis1232.

        • The Urbanite says:

          They do if you have cause to ring them while your account is in credit – my advice would be not to do that!

          • Nigel says:

            I would be very interested in finding out these HSBC Premier quirks! Anyway of reaching out to you?

          • The Urbanite says:

            Don’t really do Twitter but will see what I can sort out!

          • Genghis says:

            That would be very much appreciated. I’ve the same handle on FT where I see you post (but I don’t).

          • The Urbanite says:

            @Nigel try and message me on FT if you can.

        • Pat the Postie says:

          Yes they will often block the card and start requesting statements to prove where your payments came from, incase you were going to ask for a bank transfer I presume, most definitely not worth the hassle

      • Andrew M says:

        My top up of Revolut was also declined by Creation and the card blocked a few days ago. The IHG card was also in credit so I wonder if that is the common thread?

      • Sanders says:

        I suspect it is curve and their new system that might be causing it as it happens to me

    • Andrew M says:

      Are there any good points earning ways to pay off a balance on the IHG card apart from VS?

      • Lev441 says:

        Lloyd’s Avios?

        • Andrew M says:

          Possible, but not a great points earner. Does anyone have experience of whether cash advance fees or interest are charged?

          • stevenhp1987 says:

            I use the Barclaycard Legacy 0.5% CB card after VS+. Not great, but, better than nothing!

          • Andrew M says:

            MBNA Horizon 0.5% CB might be an option as well. I’d have to do a small test transaction to see how it’s treated – unless anyone has tried it before?

          • stevenhp1987 says:

            It’s MCC 6012, if it works with that then you’re golden.

          • Andrew M says:

            Thanks, I’ll give it a go.

  5. Malaysia Airlines has ‘joined the club’ and extended elite status until March 2022. Also a 2x Elite Miles (tier points) offer on bookings by August 31st for travel until March 2021.

  6. Harry T says:

    It’s a temporary measure due to the coronavirus, from what I understand. I imagine they will scrap this when they realise their economy can’t survive without tourism, and they want to make visiting as seamless as possible.

    • Aston100 says:

      Well lets hope so anyway.

    • Interesting Switzerland is still visa-free, wonder if that’s also the case for Germany/NL/France as I think they were also visa-free before? From South Africa’s perspective – it’s a not a rich country and they don’t have the infrastructure to deal with importing coronavirus from the UK right now so it’s perfectly right to exclude high risk countries i.e. UK, US, Sweden etc.

    • Roger* says:

      Yes, that sounds right.

      The SA Consulate General in the UK is not doing very much consular work at the moment. Working from home, etc.

  7. @mkcol says:

    Nice email from Virgin Atlantic credit card this afternoon.

    Hello @mkcol

    We hope you’re keeping safe and well. As a Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Credit Card customer, we know that these last few months, you won’t have been able to take advantage of your Flying Club rewards in the same way.

    So we’re refunding £40 of your annual card fee. There’s nothing you need to do – just look out for your refund landing in your credit card account in the next few days.

    It doesn’t stop there
    Virgin Atlantic want to make sure that when you can travel again, you’ll still be able to get the absolute most out of all your benefits.

    That’s why they’ve:

    Extended Flying Club statuses by six months
    Extended Flying Club voucher expiry dates by six months
    Stopped Flying Club miles expiring
    You’ll soon be flying again
    Hopefully, it won’t be long until you can enjoy travelling, making memories and earning rewards all over again. And we’ll be here when you do, ensuring you can simply take off where you left off with your Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Credit Card.

    Here’s to brighter days ahead.

    The team at Virgin Money

    • Received the same, a pleasant surprise!

    • Travel Strong says:

      Virgin Red status for another 6 months. Much relief! 😀

    • Munch says:

      Is the status extension only for Virgin Credit card holders? I received an extension of 6 months back in March, I only need 300 points for Gold but my status runs out in September. Hoping for a further 6 month extension but don’t currently hold a Virgin Credit card.

  8. Roger* says:

    Has there been any news of an extension to the DragonPass lounge vouchers bought via RED by Dufry? Mine expire in January 2021.

    I had a quick look at LHR. Most lounges are closed, of course, though Regus is available. I’d hope for better value.

    If they’re not extended, I guess it’s time for a refund.

    • Aston100 says:

      On 06 April 2020 at 11:23 DragonPass Support wrote:

      Good Morning,

      Thank you for contacting DragonPass.

      I can confirm that your membership should automatically renew for another 12 months when it comes to expire, therefor your visits will also renew.

      ​I hope this helps.

      Kind regards,

      Xxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx
      Customer Support Executive
      DragonPass International

  9. Aston100 says:

    Just making sure I’ve understood something correctly.
    I have IHG status, but no Hilton status.
    I’m looking at a Hilton in Luxor, Egypt next year.
    I understand I can get a status match from Hilton, for a short period of time within which I must meet a stay criteria if I want to maintain that status.
    As I almost never stay at Hilton properties, would it be a good idea to book that hotel on a room only basis soon (prices seem reasonable at present with lack of tourism) and shortly before I travel there, I get Hilton to match my IHG status and therefore when I check in, I can try and see if they’ll do a free room upgrade and at the very least I should get breakfast for the five days? Thereafter, it matters not about meeting the criteria since I’m not likely to stay at another Hilton anytime soon.

    Or does it not work like this?

    • Secret Squirrel says:

      IME you will need IHG Plat or to be sure Spire to get HH Diamond. Only works once the status match so use it very well if you can & remember you need proof of atleast one stay at an ihg hotel.
      Best to have the HH status when you book cash rate as I earned status once after booking & was a fair bit of chasing the resorts management to get them to acknowledge my Diamond status.

      • jamie says:

        You won’t get Diamond with IHG Platinum and unlikely with Spire

        • Nobody now gets Diamond, they get Gold and need to complete challenge to retain Gold or get elevated to Diamond. Thus Gold will get Aston free breakfast, and in Egypt I would imagine an upgrade of some sort too. Hower, not everybody applying for the challenge gets it, it is not guaranteed. Aston should apply at least one month before trip so that if he is not accepted then he can fall back in the amex platinum route to Gold by taking out the card for a month.

        • Secret Squirrel says:

          My last Diamond match was from IHG Plat but that was a year ago.
          I think your right, there was talk of only Gold nowadays, I stand corrected but would still recommend do it ASAP as if you make the booking in a low status, many hotels only see from time of booking.
          I had to keep e-mailing my hotel for them to recognise my new Diamond status.

        • Secret Squirrel says:

          As BJ quoted, no longer do Hilton offer Diamond as a match.
          HH Gold matches to IHG Spire, check out status matcher.

  10. rams1981 says:

    Does anyone know if curve views revolut as a debit card?

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