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The new HFP chat thread – Monday 10th August

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Comments (187)

  • Martin says:

    So BA have just cancelled my CW to Vancouver for Sept (and I guess a number of other routes), at least this means a full refund, a return of my Avois and my 2-4-1 voucher. Having the return from Calgary already cancelled (and a new return from Vancouver booked) this wasn’t a surprise.

    I guess they’ll leave Air Canada to continue lobbying the Gov over there to open up air corridors, seems to be falling on deaf ears though. Quoting the Air Canada CEO:

    “Air Canada is not proposing relaxing the U.S. border restrictions at this time – only to replace the quarantine requirements for those countries with a low COVID-19 risk from a public health perspective with more proportionate, evidence-based measures and experiences from other countries.”

    Any idea if BA will extend the validity of an already redeemed 2-4-1 voucher? We booked at T-355 and have burnt at least 12 months on that voucher so wondering what validity I might have remaining.

    I seem to be collecting a few too many 2-4-1 vouchers currently…..

    • meta says:

      Your voucher already got extended by 6 months. You can see the new expiry date on your account under used vouchers.

  • William R B says:

    Can anyone hazard a guess as to the earliest date that the possible strike at British Airways would start? The Unite union is calling for one with “immediate” effect, but it must take time to get the voting papers out and back together with the period of statutory of notice to strike. It seems to me that end-September would be the earliest time. Any views?

    • Lady London says:

      It will be a damp squib if so because that’s around the time 12,000 staff start leaving

    • TGLoyalty says:

      With mixed fleet largely unaffected you have to ask yourself what effect would strike action actually have to the rather limited flying schedules already in place.

  • Simon Lark says:

    Hi I have booked a 2-4-1 Amex companion Flight on BA LHR-BKK in business class.

    The flights have been cancelled , will BA allow a rebook onto QR in business class LHR-DOH-BKK-DOH-LHR that way will get the Q suite which is better than the old BA business class product

    As when you book the 2-4-1 it does state you can only travel on BA Metal , not sure what happens when flight is cancelled

    • Rob says:

      BA is very unlikely to do this. Feel free to book two Qatar tickets for cash and take BA to court for the money, but that’s about the only way it will happen. The EU rules on cancellations have been suspended at the moment.

      I can’t believe BA has pulled all Bangkok flights? If there is a BA option within a day or so you would be expected to take that.

      • meta says:

        Duty of care has not been suspended. It is clear that only 600/400/250 euros compensation in case of delays or cancellations has been suspended. You still have right to reroute, etc. It couldn’t have been more clearer that this is the case from EU statements!

      • Lady London says:

        Rob I’m quite concerned at the phrase “EU261 has been suspended for cancellations”.

        Where is this stated please?

        We’ve been working on the basis that compensation is not payable due extraordinary cirvumstances but duty of care (including rerouting) is.

        I have a personal need to be sure about this as currently I have flights that have been cancelled. I want to reroute on a later date. However I wont know before the cancelled flight date what replacement date I can travel. I have advised the airline I will be choosing the opion to reroute although I wont know for some time yet which later date I can fly. Am I safe?

        • Rhys says:

          Duty of care still applies.

          • meta says:

            Can you actually request a reroute on a later date? BA cancelled my return flight from Porto on bank holiday Monday and don’t fly until Thursday that week. I would like to fly a day later if possible and Tap has flights on that day. Alternatively, I am happy to stay until Thursday too if duty of care applies and they cover my accommodation costs.

          • Rhys says:

            Yes. The three options are 1. refund 2. reroute as close to original time as possible 3. reroute at a mutually agreed upon date.

    • Anna says:

      A reader on here had his flight to SYD cancelled and BA re-routed him on QR.

  • Steve R says:

    @Kai re the CC points i would screen shot the MSE papge

  • MD says:


    We had our BA club europe flights cancelled to Portugal and we opted to have avios instead of a refund. Its been 10 days since they processed this and still not received the avios yet. Has anyone else opted for points and how long did it take to see it credited to their account?


    • Mr. AC says:

      Usually it’s pretty fast (instant or a couple of days). I’d probably send them a nudge, there have been cases where they promised to send me Avios as compensation for one thing or another, but nothing arrived after a week, so I followed up and received them.

      • MD says:


        How did you nudge them other than calling them? I don’t think I can bear to be on hold to them after spending all that time trying to get the avios!

  • Nick says:

    Rob, relating to your article yesterday on BA moving SH flights from LGW – I’ve just had my return flight from Barbados moved from LGW to LHR – same times just from Heathrow. Given I have a couple of First tickets this is great news now that I can use the Concord Lounge….oh and the flights are for June 2021 – does this mean BA is still considering pulling out of LGW completely?

    Also, when I went to choose my seats again, the cabin presented only had 8 First seat but stated it was a B777 – I thought only the B787 had 8 First seats…?

  • John Caribbean says:

    I think this is regularly asked, so apologies, but are creation payments via curve to Ernie ok?
    I can’t check for cash advance/interest charges as I have other costs that incur those charges and can’t separate those out.
    I guess I’m looking for someone who does pure creation/curve/Ernie payments as a comparator.


  • Ben says:

    Spending related -I’ve got a £4k ikea spend coming up are there any gift card stacking options? The site who shall not be named has suspended Ikea.

    Thanks in advance.

    • Lady London says:

      New members in some countries have been known to get 5% or 10% off on a purchase on their first day instore. Such offers very seasonal maybe twice a year? I believe they have a Business scheme in the UK, and possibly something smaller for srudents.

    • bsuije says:

      Does your employer run an employee perks website? My old one used Xexec to provide discounts on vouchers, including IKEA.

      Xexec doesn’t take Amex, though, so you’d need a good alternative.

      • Rossy says:

        I can buy vouchers through my work scheme at a 5% discount if you’re interested

    • Anuj says:

      Some work schemes give 5% off sometimes it goes up to 7%, what site is banned? Cardyard sometimes have them for sale

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