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The HfP chat thread – Saturday 12th September

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Comments (82)

  • John says:

    Anyone paid Brighton with curve linked to capital on tap?
    If so, were any fees charged?
    Thanks in advance for any responses.

  • ee says:

    Just a heads up the site went down just before 8am with a 502/server not available error. Seems back to normal now though!

  • Henry says:

    Hi all, a friend applied for a new Bapp card but forgot to use the referral link I gave him from my account. He didn’t actually fully submit the application as he realized his mistake so stopped the application just before submission, when he tried to track back and find the referral link submission box to enter my link the site won’t let him open a new application and the only option is to finish the one he started which has no referral link applied.
    Does anyone have experience of dealing with this?
    Thank you

  • memesweeper says:

    Morning from the ‘escape’ lounge at STN. Surprised to find it open to be honest, food offering is both greatly improved and still terrible. Don’t waste a penny here, eat upstairs would be my advice. If you have free entry and you’re not hungry then it’s a quiet spot, but the main departure area is hardly heaving at the moment anyway.

    • Lady London says:

      miserly drinks policy too along the lines of that miserable Aspire Lounge in LHR T5

      Bad enough having to use STN airport anyway. Enjoy being able to see the floor between people in Stansted for once.

      • Lady London says:

        where are you off to @memesweeper? did you decide to take the risk of a family holiday?

        • memesweeper says:

          Just a domestic day trip — managed two foreign getaways last month though 🙂

  • Wollhouse says:

    Re curvé (again)… the saga is never ending…so, a new card was reissued. They’ve sent me a commercial one rather than personal (no idea why, didn’t request this). As I managed to get it to load my IHG card, I’m just going with it…so, I’ve been able to use my physical curve card. But…how on earth do you pay a cc using the app? I’m wondering if I’ve got an issue (surprise!) because I would guess that I should be able to tap on the underlying card in the app and make a payment?? Nothing happens. If that’s not how you make a cc payment within the app, can someone advise HOW you do this? The reason I think there’s something amiss is that when I try to turn fronted on, I get an error message…ditto accessing the app’s help area, sending a message…I’ve deleted and reloaded the app, restarted my phone and retried over the last few days so not related if the IT issue above was curve rather than CoT. I am asking myself if it’s worth all the bother:( am I being VERY dense or is my app playing up?? Thanks

    • Genghis says:

      User error! Nothing to do with the curve app. Use your curve card on card co’s app / website.

      • Genghis says:

        And if your card co doesn’t take debit card payments, eg HSBC, it’s no use.

        • Wollhouse says:

          Thanks Genghis. I do want the ability to turn fronted on or off though! Wasn’t sure if Payment was possible within the app and as every button I hit is giving me a “something went wrong” message inc turning fronted on/off, I was just checking. At least I can stop looking for that functionality;)

          • Genghis says:

            To turn fronted on / off, click on Account at bottom left, Profile at top right and it’s an option there. No idea if non-iPhone app is different.

          • Genghis says:

            Ignore me. You’ve already tried. Assuming phone software and app software up to date, I’d contact curve.

  • O/T cos Nobitz [AOC] says:

    O/T Hi all, any recommendations for children’s pocket money cards? For a ten year old. Any that can earn Avios (he’s in the BA household account, obvs) or other miles/hotel points?

    • Rob says:

      GoHenry is very good – we use it. No miles though! I think there is a £10 referral bonus.

    • James says:

      I use Nimbl. Can top up using Curve no advanced fees from what I see. Think this is cheaper than GoHenry.

    • Harry T says:

      Could always use a Revolut card in your name? You could load it from a points earning card, though hard to attain Avios this way.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        Rev allow child accounts now but not sure if it’s completely free

        • Brian W says:

          It is free, I got my 12 year old one. Can’t fault it, when she spends it sends me a notification and all the controls for her card or within my Revolut App. Very impressed.

  • Fola says:

    I am planning to book a trip (with my wife and nearly 2 years old son by then ) to New York for May 2021 with a BA 2 4 1 voucher.I also have a Virgin Atlantic 2 4 1 voucher( I my correct in thinking that with the new rule,I can book an Upper class with Virgin air miles get the second seat free but pay taxes for both seats regardless of my membership tier?- I am in Red Tier).

    With the BA 2 4 1 voucher,I don’t currently own any Amex card, which other way can I use to pay for the taxes? I have heard someone said you can use Amex gift voucher/card but not sure.

    Any idea which one I should go for: VA Upper Class,BA Club World or BA First Class.

    I am leaning towards the BA First Class experience but not sure if it’s worth the Avios required or if there will a much significant difference.

    Also, any tip on the best aircraft with the nicest seat layout for VA and BA.

    • Anna says:

      I can confirm F to JFK is a very pleasant experience with BA, we did this last May and were through immigration and waiting for our taxi 15 minutes after landing which was extremely novel! I wouldn’t bother with F coming back, it’s a very short flight and you may as well save some avios. We are booked to fly out in F again next Easter (fingers x’d) but this is in no small part because I found out this year what a huge advantage it is to have access to You First if anything goes wrong. I don’t know what Virgin’s CS is like at the moment but I would thoroughly recommend BA F for that reason.

      • Anna says:

        I’ve never heard from of anyone paying the taxes/fees with an Amex gift card so can’t comment, but you will need some kind of Amex payment method for a 241 booking.

      • Aston100 says:

        Anna, is the first experience different from club world, after the plane has landed at a foreign country?

        • Andrew says:

          No, except you get off the plane first, usually, if the crew hold back lower cabin passengers (Virgin are much better at doing this than BA). I would say that the JFK Concorde room is really excellent – much more exclusive than the LHR one and the food is very high quality, so I do like to fly back from JFK in First. (And you can use the Concorde Room for breakfast in arrivals, or indeed in departures if you’re connecting onwards.

        • Nick_C says:

          “is the first experience different from club world, after the plane has landed at a foreign country?”

          Depends on the foreign country. At Tokyo Narita, First passengers got invitations to use the VIP Immigration channel, which was very fast (they opened up specially for us) and felt a bit special.

    • Nick_C says:

      I wouldn’t bother with F on an overnight from JFK to LHR. As Anna says, the flight is too short. You just need a flat bed to grab whatever sleep you can. But I would recommend taking the daytime flight East. Leaves JFK about 8am and gets to LHR about 7pm. You need an extra night in NYC or at JFK, but the day flight really minimises the jet lag. You get home tired and go straight to bed, and with any luck your body clock will be back on UK time the next day.

      The other advantage of F is you don’t pay for seat reservations (not that you really need them on Club Suite anyway).

    • Dominic Barrington says:

      As a US resident, I’d just say that even planning to visit in May maybe optimistic – note the great Dr Fauci’s remarks only yesterday. If you can wait to book, I would certainly wait to see who wins in November…

    • James says:

      For BA First, I’d try to get one of the B787s with that cabin as it has the most up to date seating, lighting and IFE. If that’s not possible I’d look for an A380, though they may not be in use currently?

      For Virgin UC look for the new A350s. They’re the only ones with the new UC suites.

      • Fola says:

        I have checked on Google flights, I don’t think the 787s series go to JFK. I have only seen the 777s on the different dates I have chosen. I think some of the 777s got refurbished, just don’t know which ones

    • Fola says:

      Thanks all for the suggestions, very useful I thought that May may be optimistic but we have to go during school hols and before the little boy turns 2.

  • The Original Nick says:

    Advice needed please. I’m due to fly to France in 3 weeks. As the government are advising on not travelling to France at the moment I thought I’d try and get a FTV from Ryanair. They’ve told me on live chat that all Ryanair bookings are non- refundable and for cash and as the flight isn’t disrupted I can’t have a FTV either. What’s my next step?

    • SteveSlow says:

      Could potentially try your travel insurance given the government advice, but otherwise if the flight is still running you’ll not be entitled to any refund

    • SteveSlow says:

      Although depending on when you booked, Ryanair are waiving change fees, so you may be able to move it and just pay the fare difference

      • Anna says:

        Do you know which dates this applies to? I’m in a similar position, booked flights in Jan for travel next month & Ryanair want £140 just to change the flights.

      • The Original Nick says:


        • Harry T says:

          I’ve had similar situations. Sadly, Ryanair doesn’t offer vouchers for when you don’t want to travel, unlike BA. It is worth checking if you can change without a change fee though – this can be done a certain amount of time advance (screwed myself over due to that recently). Your only other recourse is to claim on travel insurance. Basically, I agree with the above!

          • Anna says:

            I would probably go if it was just me but my son needs to go back to school & I don’t want him missing 2 weeks due to quarantine! I’ve done a dummy change on the flights – it just says I have paid £146 when I actually paid £200, and that there will be the £140 change fee. I may need to try the web chat to get to the bottom of it. It also looks suspiciously like the “new” fare they quote might be higher than if you’re making a completely new booking!

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