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The HfP chat thread – Friday 1st January

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  • avstar says:

    virgin partner redemption devaluation incoming… sign of things to come?

    • 747_Brat says:

      Where did you get this from? 🙄 Please share the link/info.

    • Baji Nahid says:

      Is it not mostly Americans that are mostly impacted by the devaluation compared to us brits?

      • avstar says:

        maybe… but the way i see it is now (esp with points accumlation over pandemic ) is huge pressure on the remaining Virgin partner redemption sweetspots – as if availability wasnt hard enough already !

      • Rob says:


        No real impact on Brits at all unless you were planning a domestic US redemption (and shorter ones are cheaper) or you fancied flying into mainland Europe to get your taxes down.

        • Stephen says:

          So can no longer can get the 50,000 + £4 tax flights? Hopefully they don’t change the ANA ones

  • Annih says:

    Anyone know if Amex Business Plat travel insurance are being funny about the tiers. I am trying to figure out if they will cover all the card holders but they aren’t being clear about the tiers and the location of the card holder. For example, the business maybe registered in a T4 area but the person lives in T2/3. For business travel this isn’t an issue but as the perk goes both ways to leisure I wanted to get clarity if they could use it still.

    • Rob says:

      Travel insurance has nothing to do with your tier.

      As long as your destination is not on the Foreign Office ‘do not travel’ list, nothing else matters. You are covered. You may break the law by leaving your house to go to the airport but that is no difference to speeding on the way to the airport. Neither invalidate your insurance.

      • BS says:

        There is a clause that specifically invalidates the plat insurance if you carry out illegal acts. You would theoretically not be covered in either case. However in the case of speeding, the reality is the insurance company would never (and couldn’t) know. In the case of the tier 4 rules, the insurance company would definitely know, and have easy access to check.
        There is no harm in ringing up to check – it is better you find out now rather than if you are in need of urgent medical care, and discover you are not covered.

        • Rob says:

          If you had any legal training you would know that this is standard boiler plate stuff. You cannot enforce a contract for an illegal event. For example, if you break into someone’s house on holiday and cut your hand whilst doing so, the insurance does not pay out.

          IF going on holiday was illegal / against FCO advice then it would apply, but it isn’t. The act of travel itself is not an offence which means your insurance will not be invalidated, as I read it.

          • kitten says:

            and funnily enough the owner of the house being burgled may be liable for damage to the burglar’s hand….possibly even his insurance policy could be claimed on.

            However unlike America, this is not balanced by the right of the householder to shoot the burglar to defend his property. Possibly with a lot of work, the best the householder in the UK could do would be to convince a court they were in mortal fear for their life, that shooting the burglar was proportional, and that they didnt keep a rifle next to their bed with the intention of shooting burglars even after multiple burglaries.

            I think you’d find in the UK the burglar’s rights are pre-eminent 🙂

      • LB says:

        WOW! I am gobsmacked by your comment once again Rob. It’s goodbye to HFP for me now, after 4 years.
        Sometimes there’s more to life than earning a few quid from promoting travel…

        • Brian W says:

          Bye @LB 👋🏻

        • Niall says:

          I actually do agree with your feelings about Rob seeming to promote travel in any/all circumstances, but think you’re being a bit sensitive here. Rob was answering the question – Tiers aren’t considered for travel insurance. It’s not saying you should break the law.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          I really don’t think he’s promoting anything. He’s answered the question.

        • Paul says:

          I bet you’ll be back

  • David says:

    Has anyone passed through a Schengen border today with a British passport? Are British passports now being stamped?

  • Graeme says:

    Hi, quick question and heads up on an excellent fare. Booked INV to LAX in PE for November, £389pp, BA to LHR then Virgin to LAX. I’ve since upgraded the transatlantic legs to J using Virgin CC vouchers I had earned, costing £95pp extra per leg. Pretty pleased with deal as I live around 2.5hrs from INV so no positioning flight and it’s a good chance to check out the new J on the A350. Question is what will post in terms of booking mies/TPs. Can I log the BA legs separately? For VS, will it post at PE or J rates? Thanks in advance.

    • ChrisC says:

      That’s a blooming good deal for PE!

      For VS you would get the TPS and miles for your underlying PE fare (though sometimes these don’t auto post because of the upgrade). In terms of TPS and miles using the voucher does not make it a J fare.

      For BA you will be earn the points for whatever cabin you flying with them. VS should give you the BA locator ref and you’ll be able to manage your flight via the BA MMB.

      • Graeme says:

        Thanks Chris, really appreciate the clarifixation. Agree.ita a cracking fare. It doesn’t show direct on BA or VS websites given in is multicarrier ticket, not a codeshare. So I got it through Skyscanner/Opodo but was still able to upgrade. Still pretty open for the autumn.

        • Graeme says:

          Just to clarify, the Inverness to London and reverse legs book in Y rather than PE.

    • kitten says:

      Was that a dog fare ? Or at least in Y ?

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