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The HfP chat thread – Thursday 14th January

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Comments (331)

  • MadeUpName says:

    What do people think about BA re-starting European flights from Gatwick this year? I think highly unlikely, but keen to hear views. We have one booked for mid-May…

    • memesweeper says:

      I have no special information, but I think not; at least not unless the summer season really picks up

    • ChrisBCN says:

      Maybe possible towards Christmas

    • ChrisC says:

      What route?

      I’d expect it to be switched to LHR at some point which would allow you to cancel for a refund if that’s what you wanted.

      I have LGW – AMS booked for august and expect that to be moved.TBH I booked expecting it to be moved but it was cheaper than LHR and LCY.

      IMHO the earliest BA European flights will return to LGW will be end of October and the return of the Winter season.

  • Jim says:

    BA have cancelled my flights to Dubai. I was using a companion voucher with expiry date of November 2021.
    If I take a refund will expiry date be extended by 6 months.

    • Mo says:

      Will only be extended if you take a FTV, won’t be extended if you take a refund afaik

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Your guess is as good as anyone else’s.

      What you could do is get your refund then book a 4500 avios RFS for you and your +1 of choice then cancel for an FTV and it’s extended until April 22. Only downside is your +1 is locked in.

    • AJA says:

      Was the Nov 2021 date the original expiry? BA extended the expiry dates by 6 months a while ago even for vouchers that were used. Have you checked your BAEC account to see what the expiry date is?

    • Anna says:

      When were you travelling?

  • M says:

    I have got 1731 Miles & More miles; I also have 606 Flying Blue miles 😀 Is there anything at all I can do with these?

  • Tom says:

    I have a flight to Hong Kong with Virgin (bought in the redemption sale last year). The flight isn’t until June but Hong Kong is not my ultimate (planned) destination. At the moment you can’t transit Hong Kong airport unless on the same ticket. I appreciate June is a long way off but i am a lot less confident that this trip will go ahead than i was when i made the booking. What are my options with Virgin? Can i move dates? Change destinations? Voucher? I know i can refund minus a small fee per ticket but then i lose the 50% discount on the tickets.

    • Mo says:

      I can’t imagine you could do much other than refund unless the flights were cancelled.

      That said, Virgin are always super helpful when I call and numerous people have reported staff bending rules to help them out so worth calling and trying to see what’s possible.

      • Tom says:

        It just seems strange that they wouldn’t want to be flexible. They ran the unprecedented sale to get money in the bank, their finances can’t be any better than they were when they ran the sale and people still aren’t travelling. Why would they want to give my money back rather than rebook me for 6 months time or whatever.

        • Jonathan says:

          Because once things get back to normal they’ll assume they can sell that seat to someone for more than the 50% miles & fees you paid?

          • Tom says:

            That doesn’t help their cash situation whilst things are not back to normal which was the reason they ran the sale though does it. Everyone knows they ran that sale to get money in the bank. If i can’t fly (because things still aren’t back to normal) and get a refund they haven’t got the money again.

  • DJ says:

    – Fine Hotels & Resorts
    – The Hotel Collection

    Do I get qualify stays and points if I book Marriott, Hilton, Radisson and IHG hotels from the programmes above?

    Also will they recognise my hotel status too?



    • Jonathan says:

      Yes & Yes but only if it’s an FHR/THC rate.

    • Phil says:

      With InterContinental hotels I’ve had some very good experiences with FH&R. For example, the IC Carlton Cannes will honour the FH&R Upgrade and my Ambassador upgrade, which gets you from a Classic Room to City View Room on to a Sea View Room. In addition, the FH&R F&B credit will stack with the Ambassador F&B credit and I often get my Spire Free Drink Voucher as well.

      There is a space in the final confirmation page on the Amex Travel website to put your loyalty card account number. I find that the reservation will often appear on my IHG app within 24 hours.

  • tony says:

    On the BBC website…

    UK-bound arrivals from South America and Portugal to be banned from Friday over concerns about the Brazilian coronavirus variant

    • kitten says:

      What’s particularly bad about the Brazilian variant?

      • MonkeymaN says:

        It makes your hair fall out in ‘intimate places’.

        • Mike says:

          There’s no humour when dealing with a deadly virus that has killed more than 100,000 Britons.

          • The Savage Squirrel says:

            All the more reason when it’s affecting everyone. Gallows humour one of the most useful kinds.

          • Tariq says:

            Fake news. Nowhere near 100k and even if it was, it’s insignificant in the context of a population of 66 million and a world population measured in billions.

          • Callum says:

            Humour is a perfectly normal and valid method of dealing with trauma. Even the Covid+ patients I look after use it – not to mention every single member of staff.

          • Magic Mike says:

            I lolled.

            And on the 100,000 deaths, that’s with covid not of covid. An extreme example:
            Day 1: test positive, no symptoms
            Day 28: run over by a bus
            That’s recorded as a covid death…

        • kitten says:

          I set you up for that. But I would really like to know the true answer.

          • mr_jetlag says:

            Not enough data yet, but mutation similar to RSA strain which is more infectious than Covid Classic.

          • Anuj says:

            The ONS figure which is delayed by a few weeks because they only count deaths OF Covid verifies that the headline figure is pretty accurate. Don’t trust everything you see on social media. And excess deaths are much higher than the average which again is more evidence.

  • Andrew M says:

    Has anyone been able to get Virgin to match status to another airline apart from BA in the current promotion? I’m trying to match to my Etihad status but the agent is insisting that the rules are different when it matched airline isn’t BA. They insisted on me supplying my flying history to –

    “show you have sufficient travel on the VAA (or JV) network to maintain the status”

    This isn’t mentioned anywhere on the status match website. They only ask for proof of status with the other airline and a booking with Virgin.

    • Rob says:

      This is correct.

      The BA match has special terms. For other airlines, you are operating under Virgin’s usual status match terms which require you to show regular travel on the other airline on VS routes.

  • Alex says:

    Seen on another points site that if you set club card to auto-convert to virgin you’ll gain an extra 2000 points and be entered into a prize draw to win 40,000 points.

    Might be worth it for anyone who has already pushed everything over to avios or doesn’t use avios at all

    Link to article(if allowed)

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