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The HfP chat thread – Sunday 24th January

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We have decided to run this daily chat thread on Head for Points during the coronavirus outbreak.

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Comments (244)

  • AR says:

    Does anyone know what happens with Virgin Atlantic 241 voucher earned from Reward+ card when you cancel the card? Can the voucher be revoked by Virgin Money or it is safe in Virgin Atlantic account?

    • Tom says:

      Once its in your Virgin Atlantic Flying Club account you are safe.

      • babyg says:

        Unless Virgin Atlantic fold…..

        • Tom says:

          Spot the person who transferred out to Hilton at a terrible rate.

          • babyg says:

            ive kept all my virgin points (about 400k), got a few virgin reward flights booked during their awesome sale + voucher goodness for later in the year, and have status matched the family to gold/silver.
            I’m a huge virgin fan but this hotel quarantine thing could really be the nail in the coffin… (depending on if/now its implemented).. but ill continue to leave my points with virgin, moving them just doesnt make sense..

          • Peter K says:

            Ha ha.

            It’s like the PlayStation vs Xbox fanboys. Each have a vested interest in their choice so put the other down to make them feel better about their own choice.

            Likewise, every person has their own idea of what is the best use of their points from a value, ease off use etc point of view. Just because your opinion is different doesn’t make it the only correct one.

          • Nick_C says:

            There is only one rate, and it is by no means terrible. I’m continuing to transfer to Hilton everytime I reach 10k, and am very happy with the deal.

            Thinking of transferring Avios to Nectar as well. Who knows when it will be sensible to fly again for leisure.

          • babyg says:

            @Peter K, I don’t think its quite like PS vs XBOX… its more like gambling… I’m gambling that virgin will stay afloat, and therefore my I’m risking my virgin points because i think ill get a bigger pay-out on them, I could cash out now on Hilton, but I prefer to roll the dice. Personally i dont mind people having an opinion and people sharing it… it would be a boring world otherwise..

  • Ryan says:

    Nectar to Avios… if we convert 1,600 nectar to Avios for the bonus 500, can we just moved back to nectar after just for the extra?

  • BuildBackBetter says:

    Nectar – avios conditions start to trickle in. Idea for another article?
    Cap on automated transfers. Cap on manual transfers. 500 bonus given only after the qualifying period. Bonus not given if avios reversed.
    Anything missing?

    • Andrew says:

      Rob has already posted an article with all this in it. Go to homepage now.

  • Alejandro says:

    I have one IC Ambassador Certificate expiring on the 1st of February. Is this a book by date or stay by date? Thank you

  • JonD says:

    “Mastercard will increase fees more than fivefold when a British shopper uses a debit or credit card to buy from an EU-based company….

    But Mastercard has told merchants that the cap no longer applies to some transactions post-Brexit, because payments between the UK and European Economic Area are now deemed “inter-regional”….

    Callum Godwin, chief economist at CMSPI, the global payments consultancy, said that industries such as airlines, hotels, car rentals and travel groups would be hit by the move — “anywhere the consumer is in the UK and the merchant is in the EU”

    • memesweeper says:

      Are those EU based companies selling online still bound by UK law that prevents them charging more/less to different consumers depending on the card type? If so, that’s really going to sting.

      Incidentally US issued debit and credit cards, when accepted in UK/EU stores/online, come with higher charges. Depending on the banking deal these may be passed on to retailers.

      • JonD says:

        UK companies will still be constrained from differential surcharges by domestic law. No restriction on EU companies selling to UK customers – whether this will result in specific payment types attracting additional surcharges or companies just applying an ‘admin’ fee to all UK purchases – who knows?

        • memesweeper says:

          understood — not sure why we want to disadvantage our retailers online in this way…

    • kitten says:


      • Rob says:

        Wait until your mobile phone company tells you that free EU roaming is going.

        • kitten says:

          Already had the Three network 5x price rise. They have multiplied their previous price literally 5 times.

          That Three is disingenuously claiming is still honouring their previous statement that they will not be increasing roaming fees after Brexit. They just had to increase them by that massive amount for everyone, and sadly that includes roaming.

          That’s after they put an “inflation plus 4.5%” annusl increase into all their contracts last year. Inflation+ that huge flat rate. Going back to when price rises+inflation raged a few decades ago….really bad times ahead if companies selling to consumers are allowed to do this.

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