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Accor is still expiring your hotel points despite covid – what can you do?

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Most of the hotel loyalty programmes had generous rules over points expiry, even before coronavirus. Usually any activity, earning or spending, via a stay or with a partner, every 24 months or so was enough to keep your points alive.

Accor Live Limitless, owner of the Novotel, Ibis, Sofitel, Mercure etc brands, has decided to play hard ball with members.

During 2020 it had an amnesty on points expiry. On 15th December, this amnesty ended for non-status members.

Your Accor Live Limitless points will now expire on the 1-year anniversary of your last stay.

How can I stop my Accor Live Limitless points expiring?

Not only has Accor begun to expire points again, but it has substantially stricter rules than other programmes.

  • You need ‘activity’ in the previous 12 months to keep your points alive
  • Spending activity does NOT reset the clock – it must be earning activity
  • Technically your ‘earning’ activity must be a hotel stay, not partner activity. This rule has been relaxed, but Accor has virtually no ‘earn’ partners.

The problem, assuming that you can’t do an Accor hotel stay before your points expire, is that there are very few ways of earning Accor points without staying with them.

The main reason for this is the way that the programme is structured. Accor is a revenue based programme. 1 point get you 2 Eurocents of free hotel room.

This structure is unattractive to partners. Accor probably charges 2.5 Eurocents to partners to award you with 1 point, which you value at 2 Eurocents. You probably DON’T value an Accor point at 2 Eurocents, however, because clearly 2 Eurocents of cash is better than 2 Eurocents of hotel credit.

For a potential Accor partner, you are faced with paying Accor €2.50 to give your customer €2 of hotel credit which they don’t value as high as €2. Who would sign up to that?

Compare this to Avios. An Avios partner pays 1p to IAG Loyalty to give you 1 point. Most HfP readers value an Avios at more than 1p, so everyone wins. An Avios partner can spend £2 to give you 200 Avios which you value at more than £2.

How can I generate some Accor points?

There are a few ways of generating some Accor points and so keeping your existing points alive.

Option 1:

Transfer 4,000 Amex Membership Rewards points into 4,000 Flying Blue miles, the KLM / Air France loyalty programme. You can transfer those points onwards into 1,000 Accor Live Limitless points. Using 4,000 Amex points for €20 of hotel credit is a weak deal but you’ve kept your existing balance alive. This HfP article explains more about the Accor / Flying Blue partnership.

Option 2:

Transfer 3,500 Amex Membership Rewards points into 3,500 Finnair Plus miles. You can transfer those points onwards into 500 Accor Live Limitless points. This is a poorer deal than the Flying Blue option but you may prefer it if you want to conserve your Amex points. You can find out more on the Finnair website here.

Option 3:

Transfer 7,500 Amex Membership Rewards points into 500 Club Eurostar points. You can transfer those points onwards into 1,500 Accor Live Limitless points. This is a poorer deal for Amex cardholders than the Flying Blue route above, unless you already have some Club Eurostar points you can top up.

Option 4:

You can also transfer miles from Aegean, Azul, Hainan, LATAM, Oman Air, Qatar and Royal Air Maroc into Accor Live Limitless, although these are not that common amongst our readers. The list of Accor airline partners is here.

Sofitel Heathrow Accor

Option 5:

Join ClubOpinions, the Accor market research panel. This is free and you earn 250 points for your first survey which is enough to reset your expiry date. This HfP article explains more about ClubOpinions.

Option 6:

Rent a car from Europcar and credit the points to Accor. The Europcar / Accor landing page is here. This is not very practical under current restrictions, unfortunately. Accor is also a partner with Hertz and Avis, although Avis requires a 7+ day rental to earn with Accor.

Option 7:

Buy something online via the Accor shopping portal. Don’t forget to toggle to the UK page via the dropdown in the top left corner. The risk here is that the points take so long to arrive that your existing balance has expired in the interim. It is worth a go if your expiry date is still 3-4 months ahead.

Option 8:

Subscribe to The Economist via the special Accor deal. These deals are less attractive than the ones we see from Avios, however, and the points do not come close to covering the cost of the magazines.

Option 9:

Accor runs a confusing offer which lets you earn for eating or drinking in some of its hotels as a non-resident. The problem, of course, is that this is not an option until hotels re-open.

Visit this page of the Accor website which explains how it works. You need to download the Accor Live Limitless app and register your credit card details. When you make a food or drink purchase in one of the hotels listed on the site, and pay with the credit card you registered in advance, you earn 1 point per €1 spent. Importantly, you are promised the points within seven days.

Conclusion

Accor’s behaviour in expiring points in the current environment is something you should bear in mind when deciding where to stay in the future.

It is especially weird when you remember that Accor is a French business and is therefore in lockdown in its home market. I would have expected slightly different behaviour than you get from the US-owned chains, given that most US hotels are open.

The good news is that you should be able to save your Accor Live Limitless points if you plan ahead. ClubOpinions is a good place to start, and if that fails then you should consider an American Express Membership Rewards transfer via Finnair, Flying Blue or Club Eurostar.


Accor Live Limitless update – April 2024:

Earn bonus Accor points: Accor is not currently running a global promotion

New to Accor Live Limitless?  Read our review of Accor Live Limitless here and our article on points expiry rules here. Our analysis of what Accor Live Limitless points are worth is here.

Want to earn more hotel points?  Click here to see our complete list of promotions from Accor and the other major hotel chains or use the ‘Hotel Offers’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.

Comments (92)

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  • BJ says:

    IIRC, when booking a flexible rate and paying with points the points are charged at the time of booking and then refunded if we cancel the booking? If so, then good practice might be to book a flexible rate anout 12 months in advance and pay or partway with points. We could then relax knowing that we had about a year to make a hotel, stay, car hire, buy something or join the surveys before cancelling the flexible stay and getting our other points back. Would this work?

    • Lady London says:

      you have to stay not just use points to pay ahead as only earning counts as activity for the 12 months.

      • Lady London says:

        ah…got your point @BJ. You are using a flexible booking to stash the points while meanwhile your status might expire.

        Good idea except a little risky in these times in case the hotel closes for a period, and cancels all bookings automatically returning your points?

        • BJ says:

          Yes, that’s it but despite the risk it still buys extra time to post qualifying activity. Besides that, I’m unsure the system can even track the original expiration date of points protected through a reservation. I think that there is a good chance they would be valid for another year on cancellation.

  • From E to B says:

    Very good and useful article! Many thanks and greetings out of Finland.

  • Chrisasaurus says:

    8 decent options but the long term one in the conclusion seems pretty solid.

    It’s an aggressive strategy the expiration and as other chains have moved away from expiry even before the pandemic their position does stick out like a sore thumb rather..

  • Jk says:

    I like their hotels but Accor is an awful company to deal with. God help those who ever need to open a support request or talk to someone about a problem.

    • John W says:

      ± 1 – stopped using Accor after series of problems . Points not posting after stays in Mecure properties , appalling customer service . In the end decided not worth the effort

  • vol says:

    The Aegean option is interesting to me because during the first lockdown, Aegean were giving away 5000 points. I have never flown with them but I thought it would be rude not to accept. What’s the exchange from Aegean to Accor?

  • Jan M says:

    I think I was lucky that I flew KLM for a (necessary work) flight back in January. That gets you Accor points too. Not a realistic option for many, I know.

  • Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

    Any idea why Accor charges so much for points? Given the revenue-based redemption, they are basically just unusually complex gift cards; gift cards are always sold wholesale at a discount to face value.

    • Rob says:

      Accor does not own its hotels. Waitrose would not discount gift cards if you could spend them in Tesco and Waitrose was on the hook for 100% of face.

  • Tim W. says:

    “Accor … has decided to play hard ball with members.” In my experience, it always has. Their customer “service” is appalling.

    • Alan says:

      Agreed! Always had useless support when I’ve had to contact them. They also sometimes restrict your account without telling you, then you have to email ID documents when you find you can’t register for an offer!

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