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Accor is still expiring your hotel points despite covid – what can you do?

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Most of the hotel loyalty programmes had generous rules over points expiry, even before coronavirus. Usually any activity, earning or spending, via a stay or with a partner, every 24 months or so was enough to keep your points alive.

Accor Live Limitless, owner of the Novotel, Ibis, Sofitel, Mercure etc brands, has decided to play hard ball with members.

During 2020 it had an amnesty on points expiry. On 15th December, this amnesty ended for non-status members.

Your Accor Live Limitless points will now expire on the 1-year anniversary of your last stay.

How can I stop my Accor Live Limitless points expiring?

Not only has Accor begun to expire points again, but it has substantially stricter rules than other programmes.

  • You need ‘activity’ in the previous 12 months to keep your points alive
  • Spending activity does NOT reset the clock – it must be earning activity
  • Technically your ‘earning’ activity must be a hotel stay, not partner activity. This rule has been relaxed, but Accor has virtually no ‘earn’ partners.

The problem, assuming that you can’t do an Accor hotel stay before your points expire, is that there are very few ways of earning Accor points without staying with them.

The main reason for this is the way that the programme is structured. Accor is a revenue based programme. 1 point get you 2 Eurocents of free hotel room.

This structure is unattractive to partners. Accor probably charges 2.5 Eurocents to partners to award you with 1 point, which you value at 2 Eurocents. You probably DON’T value an Accor point at 2 Eurocents, however, because clearly 2 Eurocents of cash is better than 2 Eurocents of hotel credit.

For a potential Accor partner, you are faced with paying Accor €2.50 to give your customer €2 of hotel credit which they don’t value as high as €2. Who would sign up to that?

Compare this to Avios. An Avios partner pays 1p to IAG Loyalty to give you 1 point. Most HfP readers value an Avios at more than 1p, so everyone wins. An Avios partner can spend £2 to give you 200 Avios which you value at more than £2.

How can I generate some Accor points?

There are a few ways of generating some Accor points and so keeping your existing points alive.

Option 1:

Transfer 4,000 Amex Membership Rewards points into 4,000 Flying Blue miles, the KLM / Air France loyalty programme. You can transfer those points onwards into 1,000 Accor Live Limitless points. Using 4,000 Amex points for €20 of hotel credit is a weak deal but you’ve kept your existing balance alive. This HfP article explains more about the Accor / Flying Blue partnership.

Option 2:

Transfer 3,500 Amex Membership Rewards points into 3,500 Finnair Plus miles. You can transfer those points onwards into 500 Accor Live Limitless points. This is a poorer deal than the Flying Blue option but you may prefer it if you want to conserve your Amex points. You can find out more on the Finnair website here.

Option 3:

Transfer 7,500 Amex Membership Rewards points into 500 Club Eurostar points. You can transfer those points onwards into 1,500 Accor Live Limitless points. This is a poorer deal for Amex cardholders than the Flying Blue route above, unless you already have some Club Eurostar points you can top up.

Option 4:

You can also transfer miles from Aegean, Azul, Hainan, LATAM, Oman Air, Qatar and Royal Air Maroc into Accor Live Limitless, although these are not that common amongst our readers. The list of Accor airline partners is here.

Sofitel Heathrow Accor

Option 5:

Join ClubOpinions, the Accor market research panel. This is free and you earn 250 points for your first survey which is enough to reset your expiry date. This HfP article explains more about ClubOpinions.

Option 6:

Rent a car from Europcar and credit the points to Accor. The Europcar / Accor landing page is here. This is not very practical under current restrictions, unfortunately. Accor is also a partner with Hertz and Avis, although Avis requires a 7+ day rental to earn with Accor.

Option 7:

Buy something online via the Accor shopping portal. Don’t forget to toggle to the UK page via the dropdown in the top left corner. The risk here is that the points take so long to arrive that your existing balance has expired in the interim. It is worth a go if your expiry date is still 3-4 months ahead.

Option 8:

Subscribe to The Economist via the special Accor deal. These deals are less attractive than the ones we see from Avios, however, and the points do not come close to covering the cost of the magazines.

Option 9:

Accor runs a confusing offer which lets you earn for eating or drinking in some of its hotels as a non-resident. The problem, of course, is that this is not an option until hotels re-open.

Visit this page of the Accor website which explains how it works. You need to download the Accor Live Limitless app and register your credit card details. When you make a food or drink purchase in one of the hotels listed on the site, and pay with the credit card you registered in advance, you earn 1 point per €1 spent. Importantly, you are promised the points within seven days.

Conclusion

Accor’s behaviour in expiring points in the current environment is something you should bear in mind when deciding where to stay in the future.

It is especially weird when you remember that Accor is a French business and is therefore in lockdown in its home market. I would have expected slightly different behaviour than you get from the US-owned chains, given that most US hotels are open.

The good news is that you should be able to save your Accor Live Limitless points if you plan ahead. ClubOpinions is a good place to start, and if that fails then you should consider an American Express Membership Rewards transfer via Finnair, Flying Blue or Club Eurostar.


Accor Live Limitless update – April 2024:

Earn bonus Accor points: Accor is not currently running a global promotion

New to Accor Live Limitless?  Read our review of Accor Live Limitless here and our article on points expiry rules here. Our analysis of what Accor Live Limitless points are worth is here.

Want to earn more hotel points?  Click here to see our complete list of promotions from Accor and the other major hotel chains or use the ‘Hotel Offers’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.

Comments (92)

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  • Gormlesstraveller says:

    France has a curfew but not a lockdown, so staying in hotels is fine providing you arrive before 6pm.

  • josh says:

    Accor is only alive because of French government support. They compete with IHG and Radisson for most useless frequent guest program and probably win the competiiton:)
    So why complain about them? . If you stay with them then you deserve what you get.

  • Cheshire Pete says:

    I can’t really complain about Accor, but you do have to pick your hotel knowing what you might expect. The Ibis Styles at Ealing for what you pay is lovely, and themed on Movies, with a popcorn machine in reception for big and small kids alike! As Platinum I generally got a free upgrade to a large High corner room. Always got a welcoming present, even if a nicely dressed plate of Muffins from the breakfast buffet that morning! Iced off to make it look appealing. I was particularly struck when I stayed at the Madrid Ibis near MAD airport even as Gold, my welcome pack was handed over with themed Gold leaf, and a personal written letter from the manager! Obviously at the T5 Sofitel you always get Free drinks 5-8. I’m sure we’ve drunk them dry on a number of occasions. My last stays in October I was triple upgraded to Suites, even the top tier ones from a very basic room rate.

    They must be doing something right, as I’m quite fussy where I stay.

    • Tony says:

      Platinum gives you lounge access. There is very little advantage in Diamond status. There are not that many lounges in USA or Europe. The APAC area is Accor Lounge territory.

      Diamond gets you free breakfast in some hotels at a weekend on a special booking rate. Bit of a faf if there is no lounge, better stay at Hilton for the breakfasts.

  • Concerto says:

    I get Accor points each time I complete an AFKL flight. Surely this would keep my points alive?
    Wasn’t there a time when points in hotel schemes never expired?

  • Jimmyjimmy says:

    Do you have to stay by the expiry date or just book.

    • Rob says:

      Need to check out by then, and for total safety have a few days grace so the points arrive.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        Question sounds more like it’s about using points before they expire.

        Thought you had to book before they expire ?

        • Lady London says:

          you either have to use them before they expire or you have to earn even 1 point which refreshes all existing unused points as well.

  • Alan says:

    Be careful if trying to squeeze in a stay as not all hotels (eg Ibis Budget) will let earn points and reset expiry. Thankfully I did an Aegean transfer when that was an option and this seems to have reset things.

  • T W says:

    I had a massive fight with their CS. I booked and fully paid for a stay and called the hotel beforehand and telling them to check me in and out but obviously I won’t be able to stay due to lockdown. However, Accor still decided to expire my c20k points. After 4 weeks of going back and forth, I got my points but they made it sound like they are doing me a favour. This truly shocking comparing with likes of Hilton. Funny enough I was going to drop Rob an email if this wasn’t resolved. 🙂

    • Chrisasaurus says:

      There are very few hotels that would have done this for you, at least that would admit to it

      You didn’t technically stay and it shouldn’t have counted as a qualifying stay so I’m with Accor, you were entitled to nothing

      No, you couldn’t have stayed because of lockdown but that’s the case for a lot of people in a lot of hotels and it’s why they should, arguably – but didn’t – keep the point expiry suspended

  • Lady London says:

    Wondering why 2 things aren’t mentioned : 1. even buying a drink in an Accor hotel or outlet and crediting to your card will reset your year. You dont have to stay.

    2. IIRC I signed up to mutually double dip AccorFlying Blue when earning, about 18? months ago after seeing it on HfP. Am I imagining things, or has this deal stopped being offered.

    Accor wasn’t even generous last year. They kept expiring points up to around 17th May 2020. Then, and only for points they hadn’t already just expired earlier than that date, they stopped expiring only for the back half of the year till mid-December. Leaving anyone disgruntled (me) whose points were still being expired even one week earlier. It took me some effort to get them back.

    Now I adopt a buelen them as soon as you can strategy with Accor as continued involvement is not rewarding with them.

    • Chrisasaurus says:

      This is the thing though – they never have had any opportunity to be worth anything more than their fixed rate so why would anyone save them up?

      Unless your stays are purely work based and you’re fixated on a massively expensive in-off redemption (which are the aspirational goals in most schemes where outsized rewards are possible) that you can’t earn enough for in a year they should really never be at risk

    • Rob says:

      1. If the hotels were open, we wouldn’t be having this discussion!

      2. If the airlines were flying, we wouldn’t be having this discussion! It is still available but I doubt anyone will be in a position where it becomes easier to fly KLM or Air France than stay at a UK Ibis.

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