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TODAY is 24 months from Amex’s launch of the ’24 month’ rule – what should you do?

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On 21st March 2019, American Express unveiled major changes to its rules on who could obtain a sign-up bonus on its cards.

Our article from that day is here – it ended up getting over 72,000 page views, making it one of our biggest articles ever. Add in email and aggregator readers and it will have done close to 90,000 views.

Up to that day, the American Express bonus rules had been generous:

  • travel cards were split into three families (Membership Rewards, Avios, Marriott) and you were guaranteed to get a bonus if you hadn’t had a card from the same family in the previous six months
  • even inside the same ‘family’, you could get a new bonus as long as you waited six months from when you cancelled your previous card

Under this scenario, it was a doddle for a couple to pick up over 100,000 points per year from sign-up bonuses without trying too hard. People who could reach the minimum spend targets quickly and kept a closer track of their dates could do far better.

What happened in March 2019?

With no notice, Amex changed the rules to the situation we see today:

  • with the exception of Platinum and BA Premium Plus, you cannot get a sign-up bonus if you have had a personal (business cards are ignored) Amex card in the previous 24 months

This article (click here) explains in more detail ‘what Amex bonuses can you get, based on the cards you currently or recently had’.

If you cancelled everything on 21st March 2019, you are ‘free’ today

There were two problems with what American Express did.

First, it was insanely complex. Spend 30 seconds reading my article on ‘what bonuses can I still get?’ if you don’t believe me. It didn’t help that the Business cards retained the six month rule. For extra confusion, having a Business card doesn’t block a personal bonus BUT having a personal Membership Rewards card DOES block a Business card bonus.

Secondly, it actually made sense to cancel all of your American Express cards. A couple who have had no Amex cards in the last 24 months can generate 186,000 points between them fairly quickly as we show below. Have you earned 186,000 points in the last 24 months from your Amex cards? Probably not. In retrospect, you may have been better off cancelling the lot back in March 2019, especially if you have a small business and could have used Business Gold or Business Platinum in the interim.

Does it make sense to cancel all my Amex cards now?

That’s up to you. You are gambling that the strategy I outline below for picking up points quickly will still be around in 24 months.

You will also need access to an Amex of some sort to pay the taxes on any British Airways 2-4-1 companion voucher you have ready to redeem.

If you have a small business, it could be worth considering due to the 100,000 points Business Platinum bonus

Remember that:

These offers run to 9th April. Cancelling your personal cards and focusing on the Business cards for two years may work, allowing you to unleash a storm of personal card bonuses in March 2023 – unless the rules change.

What is the best strategy if I have gone 24 months with no personal Amex cards?

If you approach it in the right order, a couple can earn 186,875 Avios from American Express sign-up bonuses as long as neither of you has had an American Express card in the past 24 months.

Here is the optimum Avios-earning strategy at the moment for a couple who have not had any Amex cards in the past two years.

Both you and your partner will be getting three different American Express cards.  How far you spread out the applications should depends on how quickly you can hit the spend target on each card to trigger the sign-up bonus.  You have up to 90 days on each card to hit the target.

HFP Amex American Express Nectar Card

To start off:

Person A applies for the Nectar American Express card (apply here)

  • Sign-up bonus for Person A: 20,000 Nectar points which converts to 12,500 Avios, £2000 spend in three months required
  • Rule: You cannot have held a personal American Express card in the previous 24 months

Person A refers Person B for the Nectar American Express card

  • Referral bonus for Person A: 5,000 Nectar points which converts to 3,125 Avios

Person B applies for the Nectar American Express card 

  • Sign-up bonus when referred for Person B: 21,000 Nectar points which converts to 13,125 Avios, £2000 spend in three months required
  • Rule: You cannot have held a personal American Express card in the previous 24 months

Person B refers Person A for The Platinum Card

  • Referral bonus for Person B: 5,000 Nectar points which converts to 3,125 Avios

Person A applies for The Platinum Card

  • Sign-up bonus when referred for Person A: 35,000 Membership Rewards points which converts to 35,000 Avios, £4000 spend in three months required
  • Rule: You cannot have held a personal American Express card which earns Membership Rewards points in the previous 24 months

Person A refers Person B for The Platinum Card

  • Referral bonus for Person A: 12,000 Membership Rewards points which converts to 12,000 Avios

Person B applies for The Platinum Card

  • Sign-up bonus when referred for Person B: 35,000 Membership Rewards points which converts to 35,000 Avios, £4000 spend in three months required
  • Rule: You cannot have held a personal American Express card which earns Membership Rewards points in the previous 24 months

Person B refers Person A for the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card

  • Referral bonus for Person B: 12,000 Membership Rewards points which converts to 12,000 Avios

Person A applies for the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card

  • Sign-up bonus when referred for Person A: 26,000 Avios, £3000 spend in three months required
  • Rule: You cannot have held a personal British Airways American Express card in the previous 24 months

Person A refers Person B for the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card

  • Referral bonus for Person A: 9,000 Avios (or 12,000 Membership Rewards points, which converts to 12,000 Avios, if they still hold The Platinum Card at this point and make the referral from that)

Person B applies for the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card

  • Sign-up bonus when referred for Person B: 26,000 Avios, £3000 spend in three months required
  • Rule: You cannot have held a personal British Airways American Express card in the previous 24 months

Person A or Person B spends £10,000 on their British Airways American Express Premium Plus card in order to trigger the 2-4-1 voucher and so maximise how far your 186,875 Avios can take you!

You will actually have more than 186,875 Avios because of the points from your daily spend.

There are also opportunities to add supplementary cards to each card as you go along, for additional bonuses of up to 3,000 points each.

Conclusion

If you cancelled all of your personal American Express cards in March 2019, the day you may have thought would never come is here.

At some point in the next few days, you will pass the 24 month mark and can start taking advantage of your freedom.

One thing: I recommend ringing American Express and asking them to confirm the date you cancelled your previous cards. More accurately, you want to make sure that the date Amex says you cancelled is the same date you think you cancelled. Remember that Amex may not have processed your cancellation request until any unpaid bills were cleared.

If you get it wrong – even by 24 hours – you won’t get a bonus now and you will need to wait another two years before you can try again ….

Further credit card information

Here is the legally required interest rate information on the cards mentioned above, together with links to our reviews:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

Bonus: 25,000 Avios

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Receive a companion voucher, letting you book two flights for the Avios of one, when you spend £15,000 in a card year
  • This is reduced to £10,000 until 1st November 2024
  • A solo traveller can use it for a 50% discount on the Avios for one ticket
  • The voucher is valid in any cabin
  • It can be used on British Airways, Iberia and Aer Lingus
  • Annual fee: £300

Representative 139.9% APR variable based on an assumed £1,200 credit limit and £300 annual fee. Interest rate on purchases 31.0% APR variable.

See if you qualify for the 25,000 Avios sign-up bonus +

You will receive 25,000 Avios as a sign-up bonus on the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card if you spend £3,000 within 90 days of signing up.

To qualify for the bonus, you must not have held the British Airways Premium Plus or the free British Airways American Express cards in the previous 24 months.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s British Airways American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held any other American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the British Airways Premium Plus card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the companion voucher and all of the other card benefits.

Learn more about the card benefits +

When you spend £15,000 on the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card, you receive a companion voucher entitling you to book two Avios redemption flights for the miles of one.

Alternatively, a solo traveller can use the voucher for a 50% reduction on the Avios required for one ticket.

This sum is reduced to £10,000 until 1st November 2024.

This voucher is valid for two years.  Full taxes and charges need to be paid on both tickets.

This voucher is the most valuable perk available in the UK airline and hotel credit card sector in my view. It could save you 150,000 or more Avios when used for a long-haul redemption in a premium cabin.

The voucher with the Premium Plus card is far more powerful than the voucher given with the free British Airways American Express card.  You need to spend the same £15,000 to receive it.  More importantly, the Premium Plus voucher is valid for two years and is valid in ALL cabins.  The voucher on the free British Airways American Express card is only valid for one year and can only be used for Economy flights.

You receive your voucher within a few days of reaching the spending target.  You need to fly the outbound leg of your 2-4-1 flight before the expiry date of the voucher.

The voucher can be used for flights on British Airways, Iberia and Aer Lingus.

You need a minimum personal income of £35,000 to apply for the card.

The Platinum Card from American Express

Bonus: 40,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Two Priority Pass cards, each allowing two people into 1,400 airport lounges
  • Elite status in four major hotel loyalty programmes
  • Comprehensive travel insurance
  • £300 per year of restaurant credit
  • £100 per year to spend at Harvey Nichols
  • Annual fee: £650

Representative 704.6% APR variable based on an assumed £1,200 credit limit and £650 annual fee. Interest rate on purchases 31.0% APR variable.

See if you qualify for the 40,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 40,000 American Express Membership Rewards points as a sign-up bonus on The Platinum Card if you spend £6,000 within three months of signing up.

Membership Rewards points are hugely flexible.  You can transfer them into Avios, Virgin Flying Club or other airlines (at 1:1) or into various hotels schemes, into Club Eurostar or use them for shopping vouchers.

This is the ONLY personal American Express card where you still qualify for the bonus if you already hold a British Airways American Express card.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card which earns Membership Rewards points.  This includes The Platinum Card and Preferred Rewards Gold.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held any other American Express card, including the British Airways, Marriott and Nectar cards.

For clarity, you can still apply for The Platinum Card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the long list of other benefits.

Learn more about the card benefits +

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with an unrivalled list of benefits for the keen traveller.

Your personal travel patterns will determine which of these is the most valuable.  The key benefits are:

Full comprehensive travel insurance for you, your family and the family of your supplementary cardholder, subject to enrolment

Two Priority Pass cards, each of which allows the holder and a guest unlimited free access to 1,400 airport lounges

Elite status in four major hotel loyalty schemes: Marriott Bonvoy (Gold), Hilton Honors (Gold), Radisson Rewards (Premium), MeliaRewards (Gold)

Access to Eurostar lounges, irrespective of travel class

£150 per year to spend in over 160 UK restaurants

£150 per year to spend in over 1,200 international restaurants

£100 per year to spend at Harvey Nichols, instore or online (no minimum spend required)

£300 per year of dining credit – £150 to be spent at 150+ UK restaurants and £150 to be spent at 1,200+ restaurants outside the UK

You need a minimum personal income of £35,000 to apply for the card.

American Express Nectar credit card

Nectar American Express

Bonus: 20,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • You can convert Nectar points into Avios, and vice versa
  • Annual fee: Free for the first year, £30 from Year 2

Representative 37.8% APR variable.  Annual fee applies after the first year.

See if you qualify for the 20,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 20,000 Nectar points as a sign-up bonus on the Nectar American Express credit card if you spend £2,000 within 90 days of signing up.

Nectar points are worth 0.5p each if spent in Sainsbury’s, Argos or eBay.  They can also be converted to Avios at the rate of 400 : 250.  1 Nectar point gets you 0.625 Avios.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held a Business American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the Nectar American Express card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the ‘no fee in Year 1’ offer.

Learn more about the card benefits +

The Nectar American Express credit card comes lets you earn 2 Nectar points for every £1 you spend.  This is on top of any Nectar points you would usually earn at Sainsbury’s and other Nectar partners.

Converted to Avios, you would be earning 1.25 Avios per £1.  This makes the card better value than the free British Airways American Express credit card for your first year, as the Nectar American Express is ‘fee free’ for the first 12 months.  There is a £30 annual fee from Year 2.

The sign-up bonus of 20,000 Nectar points is worth £100 to spend in Sainsbury’s, Argos or eBay.

20,000 Nectar points can also be converted into 12,500 Avios.

You need a minimum personal income of £20,000 to apply for the card.

American Express Business Gold

Bonus: 20,000 Membership Rewards points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Annual fee: Free for the first year, £195 from Year 2
  • Points transfer at 1:1 into Avios, Virgin Points and other airline schemes
  • Get £100 per year to spend at Dell

This is a charge card, not a credit card. You must clear your balance in full each month.  Annual fee £195 from Year 2, free in Year 1.

See if you qualify for the 20,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 20,000 American Express Membership Rewards points as a sign-up bonus on the American Express Business Gold card if you spend £3,000 within 90 days.

Membership Rewards points are hugely flexible.  You can transfer them into Avios, Virgin Points or other airlines (at 1:1) or into various hotels schemes, into Club Eurostar or use them for shopping vouchers.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 13 months, have held any other American Express card which earns Membership Rewards points.  This includes Business or personal Gold, Business or personal Platinum and the personal American Express Rewards credit card.

You are OK if you had a complimentary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if the only American Express card you have had in the previous 13 months was a British Airways, Marriott Bonvoy, Nectar, Amex Cashback or Harrods American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the American Express Business Gold card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the ‘no fee in Year 1’ offer.

Learn more about the card benefits +

You receive £100 of Dell statement credit per calendar year.  This is made available in two parts.  You receive a £50 credit on Dell purchases made between January and June and a £50 credit on Dell purchases made between July and December.  There is no minimum spend requirement.

You can apply for complimentary Amex business cards for your employees.

You will receive one consolidated statement showing the spend on your card and all of the complimentary cards.  All of the Membership Rewards points earned on the complimentary cards will flow into your personal account.

Depending on when in your monthly cycle you make a payment, you will effectively receive up to 54 days free credit on your spending.

American Express statements provide more underlying transaction detail for flights and certain other transactions than Visa or Mastercard statements, making it easier to reconcile transactions.

You need a minimum personal income of £20,000 to apply for the card.

American Express Business Platinum

Bonus: 40,000 Membership Rewards points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Get £200 per year to spend at Amex Travel
  • Two Priority Pass cards, each allowing two people into 1,400 airport lounges
  • Elite status in four major hotel loyalty programmes
  • Get £150 per year to spend at Dell
  • Get £300 per year to spend at job ads site Indeed
  • Comprehensive travel insurance
  • Annual fee: £650

This is a charge card, not a credit card. You must clear your balance in full each month.  Annual fee £650.

See if you qualify for the 40,000 points bonus +

You will receive 40,000 American Express Membership Rewards points as a sign-up bonus on the American Express Business Platinum card if you spend £6,000 within 90 days.

Membership Rewards points are hugely flexible.  You can transfer them into Avios, Virgin Points or other airlines (at 1:1) or into various hotels schemes, into Club Eurostar or use them for shopping vouchers.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 13 months, have held any other American Express card which earns Membership Rewards points.  This includes Business or personal Gold, Business or personal Platinum and the personal American Express Rewards credit card.

You are OK if you had a complimentary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if the only American Express card you have had in the previous 13 months was a British Airways, Marriott Bonvoy, Nectar, Amex Cashback or Harrods American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the American Express Business Platinum card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from all of the other card features including the £200 of annual Amex Travel credit.

Learn more about the card benefits +

American Express Business Platinum comes with an unrivalled list of benefits for the keen traveller.

Your personal travel patterns will determine which of these is the most valuable.  The key benefits are:

£200 of Amex Travel credit per membership year

Full comprehensive travel insurance for you, your family and the family of up to five complimentary cardholders, subject to enrolment

Two Priority Pass cards, each of which allows the holder and a guest unlimited free access to 1,400 airport lounges

Elite status in four major hotel loyalty schemes: Marriott Bonvoy (Gold), Hilton Honors (Gold), Radisson Rewards (Premium), MeliaRewards (Gold)

Other benefits include:

£150 of Dell statement credit per year – you receive £75 credit on Dell purchases betweeen January and June and £75 credit on purchases between July and December

£300 of credit to run job advertisements at indeed.com (£75 per quarter)

Digital subscription to The Times and The Sunday Times, worth over £300

You need a minimum personal income of £35,000 to apply for the card.

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  • The Streets says:

    Strangely the two years has gone by pretty quickly but at the same time does feel like a different lifetime ago

  • Genghis says:

    Those were the days. IIRC 450k avios pa was pretty “straight forward” for us as a couple.

    • Jamie says:

      And we wonder why they closed it down.

      • Genghis says:

        🙂 if companies present offers, there will always be punters who happily take up such offers.

      • Bazza says:

        No need to wonder. That’s exactly why they closed it. A greedy few ruined it for the many. No doubts about it!

  • SwissJim says:

    Am I right in thinking you get the referral bonus even if the person being referred doesn’t qualify for the sign up bonus? Not a strategy I have used before. Is it fraught with problems? Refer, sign up, cancel, refer….

    • BJ says:

      Yes, you are right and there are no problems either. Cancelling cards for 24 month was just plain dumb but some just paniced and jumped. Some reconsidered part way through and some, for reasons known only to themselves, persisted with the crazy 24 month cardless strategy. Why HfP even gave it the time of day was beyond me but to be clear and fair, they never endorsed it, only set out the options and left the choice up to readers.

      • Steve says:

        Not sure why you consider it “plain dumb”? As Rob asked in the article, have you really achieved 186k Avios (or equivalent) of benefit from your Amex in the last 2 years?

        • Mr(s) Entitled says:

          I cancelled about 2yrs ago, moved my spend elsewhere, cycled through a couple of Business Platinums, and now have a slew of easy points on the horizon. Oh, and another Business Platinum. Long live the plain dumb!

          • BuildBackBetter says:

            But you could have got it even while doing the 2 year wait on personal cards?

        • Andrew says:

          Yes I have.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          I’ve personally have 150k MR just from this past year plus another 100k in another couple accounts.

          Plus numerous Avios, Bonvoy, Nectar

          always have an Amex this 24 month fallow period stuff in nonsense. Though if you keep any card make sure it’s not the BAPP!

        • Steve says:

          The average Joe doesn’t spend as much as you big spenders clearly. The 24 month strategy is perfectly valid for many, anecdotally I’d say most.

          • BuildBackBetter says:

            Yep, for the low spenders, the 2 year strategy makes sense. But then will they have enough miles for a good redemption?

          • Rob says:

            They’ll have 186,000 ….

          • RussellH says:

            No idea if I am “average” or not, but I took the view that I would no longer bother with churning, but just keep one Avios and one MR Amex, with no card fees to pay on either (pretty much my golden rule on credit cards).

            What is not mentioned in the article is that the amount needed to be spent also increased significantly, putting sign-up bonuses completely out of reach for me under normal spending patterns.
            It is not just a question of not having the cash to spend, it is what on earth can you spend £667 / mth routinely on an Amex card!

          • TGLoyalty says:

            Big spenders like us?

            This strategy requires 2 people to spend

            £2k for Nectar, £4k for BAPP (+£7k if you want a 2-41) and £4k for Platinum!

            That’s £20k in a year(?) between you.

          • RussellH says:

            £20 000 a year between the two of us? Just possibly. But over 60% of that cannot be done on Amex.
            The big bills, like house + car insurance, are annual, not monthly, and, as I said, Visa/MC only.
            Amex is OK for supermarkets, but £10-£20 a week does not get you anywhere near the amounts needed.
            Diesel on Amex, yes, but again, £30 / mth is pushing it.
            Clothing? I have not bought any for over a year, and anyway, Primark is closed.

            No, for me the old limits were doable (just) occasionally.
            The new ones, no.

          • CH says:

            I like your levels of spending, RussellH!

      • Harry T says:

        I agree BJ, we’ve easily eclipsed 186k of points earning in my household and we haven’t done anything particularly exciting or innovative. I’ve received 50k of points (plus a load more due to a further retention offer for two bonus points per pound) just for keeping cards in the last four months or so. That’s on top of enhanced referrals, targeted Amex bonuses for spend etc.

        • Harry T says:

          It’s also worth noting that we’ve saved thousands from Amex offers over the last two years. There’s nothing close to the value of Amex offers on other cards.

          • memesweeper says:

            +1

            that’s what made me keep my personal Amex alive, I couldn’t bring myself to live without them… in retrospect, should have confined myself to business cards, probably would have worked out OK on offers too.

      • Chris Heyes says:

        BJ Correct it was Dumb to cancel for two years I wouldn’t consider myself & Partner a big spender (well i’d consider Partner)
        I’ve managed to have Platinum (three) sign ups Gold (two) sign ups BA Premium (1)
        sign up
        That’s me my Partner and her brother the 3 Platinum Cards two was held for 1 month the other 2 months

  • Jenny says:

    I cancelled my cards two years ago. My partner did not. What is the best strategy to follow? Is there another way of getting or making referrals?

    • Steve says:

      Your partner can still refer you for the Nectar, Platinum/BAPP, BAPP/Platinum (in that order). Your partner will get the referrals, you’ll get the sign up bonuses, and you can get some additional bonuses for the supplementals.

    • Jonty says:

      It might not be wise and possibly disproportionate, but you could get another partner?

      • Andrew says:

        And of course it doesn’t need to be your partner, a friend, relative etc.

      • Sarah says:

        😆

      • Chris Heyes says:

        Jonty or it could be “Very” wise do you know anyone who’ll have me
        PS Don’t tell my partner “just yet” lol

    • Rob says:

      You need to get the same cards – Nectar first, then BAPP or Plat, then BAPP or Plat – letting your partner refer you each time.

      • Mart says:

        On this point – I have held a blue personal for a while, partner no personal. Would the best route be (assuming change once hit bonus) I refer her for nectar amex, then plat, then she refers me for plat, then i refer her for BAPP? (Specifically would adding in the extra stage for the extra plat bonus work?)

  • Alastair says:

    My wife and I cancelled our cards 2 years ago but both kept BA black. I called Amex last week to confirm the date and they have 2nd April.
    Unusually for Amex the operator was clueless and kept going to ask for assistance. He initially said no bonus. when challenged he changed his tune. We shall see.

    • Steve says:

      BA Black meaning BAPP? In which case you have a personal Amex and aren’t eligible for any sign up bonuses, other than those on the Platinum

  • Tim W. says:

    Don’t these strategies rely on Amex automatically approving new card applications? If I were them, I’d get fed up with issuing new cards to obvious churners!

  • AJA says:

    I see the logic but it requires a couple to spend £18k between them in 9 to 12 months to get the 186k Avios and costs £526 in fees between the 4 platinum and BAPP cards if it takes the allotted timescales to hit the bonuses and you won’t even have one 2-4-1 voucher between a couple. For that person A would need to spend another £7k to hit the threshold for the voucher. That is a lot of spending on Amex alone which given the lockdowns and restrictions on travel in the last year is a tall ask. It might be easier if you have been incurring business expenses on behalf of your employer (I haven’t). I am just about to hit the £10k spend on my BAPP card, it’s taken just over 11 months to do so with very little spend on my OH’s BAPP for the last 4 months. Individually I would not have hit the target this year. Also we will have 4 unused 2-4-1 vouchers due to cancelled holidays in the last year.

    • SwissJim says:

      This is my issue. It’s a doddle manufacturing visa/mastercard spend, to generate as many points effectively as your (recycled) credit limits allow. I perhaps go a little overboard on this… But Amex strategies seem few and far between.

      Without giving the game away, has anyone got successful Amex strategies that don’t rely on genuine spend? I’m happy to do the research, as long as I’m not looking into a void…

      • Chris Heyes says:

        SwissJim without giving the game away, there are a few out there.
        One is has your daughter/son something you can buy off her/him that costs around £1000 (most I’ve done is £1400 and i thought it was risky)
        both use paypal via your card
        Buy whatever for £1000 don’t use the free friends transfer, use genuine buy bit
        that will cost you around £40 ish but shouldn’t flag up paypals “bot”
        Wait almost 12 months do it again. that’s £2000 spend done
        OOOps I’ve just stopped myself for next year lol

        • AndyGWP says:

          If you want to pay commission to create spend, then you are possibly less risk exposed if you go down the billhop route and performing genuine spend.

  • Mark says:

    With the launch of the Avios/Barclays premier tie up I would say the Amex 2 4 1 voucher has more competition now as well. unless you are doing lots of 2 4 1 tickets and can still earn enough avios to make this work on a long haul redemption waiting 13 months to get 2 barclays upgrade vouchers and keeping the sign up bonus clock ticking is more attractive now

    • Red Flyer says:

      Agreed – fees & taxes on long haul now mean I have sacrificed BAPP and the 2 for 1 and focus on several RFS a year in Europe instead. Barclays Premier and HSBC WE now my strategy as much easier to do that day to day than Amex spend.

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